That's interesting. I think Billy Bowlegs was also a son of William Augustus Bowles. There's a little picture of him you can find online if you look (or maybe I have it in a book)....which Billy signed. And his signature? You can't tell if it says Bowlegs or Bowles. And how did he learn to write, except that perhaps his mother taught him? And who taught her? Probably WAB. There weren't any schools around at that time in Western Florida. Looking at the first Billy's times and seasons in history, he was the right age to have been fathered by WAB and was born in the area where WAB was tramping around. There were three Billy Bowlegs, I think....maybe two. I recorded as much genealogical data as I could find on him in the process of working on the Phillips genealogy. In their Poarch Creek applications, the Phillips families claimed descent from Billy Bowlegs. To this date, we have not yet determined how that connection came about. I have heard that Chief Bowl's name is longer than what we have and that it has to do with the bowl that is passed with the black drink in it. His history is an interesting one, for sure. Kathie ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Page To: [email protected] Cc: Mary Blount Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] In looking for ancestors alwayscheckoutArkansas, Louisiana and Texas I believe Chief Bowl was the son of British William A. Bowles and his first wife that was Cherokee. ----- Original Message ----- From: "csmoke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] In looking for ancestors always checkoutArkansas, Louisiana and Texas > Richard T., when cooking the Opossom, I guess my ggrandmother forgot to > "parboil" and went straight to the oven. Grease/oil level was half up in > the baking pan, but I think they used to dip their homemade bread in that. > That was one of the few foods I tried and did not acquire a taste for. > (too > much oil..). How do you get those roadkills to eat the buttermilk/etc??? > > In locations for natives,.. remember that about 1817 was a treaty for the > Cherokees (referred to as Old Settlers) to self emigrate to their > Reservation in north central Arkansas. (they stayed there until about > 1830) > when the reservation was dissolved in another treaty and the Old Settlers > went to Ind Territory. 1817 look for "passport" allowing Inds (reds...:o) > to travel. > > Sam Huston , the Texican, was very hooked to the Cherokees, he was known > as > "The Raven" & book title same name , .. in his biography you see much. > (one of my family names chief (John Jolly) , adopted him, but others claim > not the same person. Neither of us can "proove" yes/no , but I have some > paper trial for that!! > > Also, along with your good information, you did not mention 1811 > earthquake > SE Missouri "bootheel" , Cherokee living there with chief "Bowl" , fled to > TX , they considered the ground shake a bad medicine message or something. > Quiz.. : Feds made 40 treaties with the Cherokee,.. how many of the > treaty > conditions were kept by this govt ?? (tune in this theatre next week for > the answer..)!! > > Richard B. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 12:22 PM > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] In looking for ancestors always check > outArkansas, Louisiana and Texas > > >> The mention about the new museum In Fort Smith, AK reminded of something >> I >> discovered in my research in the past. I found that thousands and >> thousands >> of Creeks and Cherokees went west prior to the Trail of Tears in the >> late >> 1830s. Very few went initially to Oklahoma because it was claimed by >> other >> tribes. Cherokees and Upper Creeks often went to Arkansas, sometimes to >> Missouri. >> Lower Creeks, Alabamas, and Koasati's went to Louisiana, Texas and >> Mexico - >> perhaps also to the southern tip of Arkansas. Some Cherokees went to >> Texas >> and then to Mexico. Most Cherokees were chased out of Texas after it >> became a >> Republic. However, a considerable number of Alabamas, Koasati's and >> Lower >> Creeks were allowed to stay in Texas because they had fought along side >> the >> Texans against the Mexicans. >> >> As I mentioned last week, also look for Friendly "Georgia" Creeks in >> Texas. >> The Friendly (Hitchiti-speaking) Creeks were promised that they could >> keep >> their farms in Georgia and South Carolina, but many were either >> illegally >> dispossessed or felt insecure in an anti-Indian political environment. >> The >> Friendly Creeks carried with them a hybrid culture that was a mixture of >> the >> Mound-Builders and Scottish frontiersmen. Many also has aspirations of >> being >> planters or ranchers in Texas. Their descendants tended to blend in >> with >> the >> Texans since Creeks are not that different in appearance from Mexican >> Mestizos. >> >> Also, when planning to serve possum for prominent guests or wedding >> parties, >> be sure and feed the possum cornbread and buttermilk for a couple of >> weeks >> before dressing them. Parboiling the possum for awhile will get rid of >> the >> excess fat created by the cornbread and buttermilk. >> >> Richard T. >> >> >> >> **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your >> budget? >> Read reviews on AOL Autos. >> (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 >> ) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >>> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message