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    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Creek reserves
    2. csmoke
    3. Yes, I got that part , but the bounty lands I have seen record of just specified for military. (nothing I saw mentioned that this land or reserve "was for what we took away before" and this is a token replacement... One bounty record that I did see was for the widow of "Timpoochee" a.k.a. english name John Barnard. This bounty was for "Scar-Chee", widow of Timpoochee. He was in the (forgive my historical..) "Creek Wars" of 1812-14, and she said he died summer of 1835. I recall there was more Creek war (1835??) and 36. Anyway , what I saw was the application in the early '1850s'. Would sure like to know if he died in battle... Timpoochee , I may be related to and have researched him much. He was 1/2 english and mother full Euchee. I found another Euchee woman in Creek County, OK, in family history book , said that Timpoochee was her ggrandfather and "fire chief " "back east before the removals. Timpoochee was born about 1777 , son of englishman Timothy Barnard , who set up trade post Flint River , GA, (on Euchee land). Timpoochee led 100 Euchee at the battle of Horshoe Bend (against the Redsticks..????) and saved the man whoose face is printed on the american $20 bill (currently) and responsible for taking a large part getting the natives removed from the east to the west. Yuck. Richard B. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:47 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Creek reserves > Hey Richard B. > > Yes, that is what I was saying, these were reserves granted to Friendly > Creeks for service in the Revolutionary War, Cherokee Wars and War of > 1812. My > ancestors received a 2000 acre reserve for being scouts in the wars > against > the Cherokees and against the British. The reparations were for farms > taken > illegally because of a law enacted by Georgia, that no Indian could own > land. > The Friendly Creeks were theoretically State Citizens and therefore not > subject to removal to Alabama, Florida or Oklahoma. Without warning, a > troop > of militia or a sheriff's posse' would show up at a Friendly Creek's farm > or > plantation. The legal occupants would be evicted without any > compensation > whatsoever, and marched at gun point to the nearest state line. The > county > would then auction off the land to the highest bidder. Generally, these > dastardly acts were instigated by greedy planters who wanted cheap land > with which > to expand their plantations - or county commissioners, who needed to > supplement their tax receipts. > > Richard T. > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

    08/06/2008 04:24:19
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Creek reserves
    2. Leon Beard
    3. i have read that the Cherokee Junaluska was said to have saved Andrew Jackson's life at the battle of Horseshoe Bend or that is what is the belief among members of the Eastern band of Cherokees --- On Wed, 8/6/08, csmoke <[email protected]> wrote: > From: csmoke <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Creek reserves > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:24 PM > Yes, I got that part , but the bounty lands I have seen > record of just > specified for military. (nothing I saw mentioned that this > land or reserve > "was for what we took away before" and this is a > token replacement... > > One bounty record that I did see was for the widow of > "Timpoochee" a.k.a. > english name John Barnard. This bounty was for > "Scar-Chee", widow of > Timpoochee. He was in the (forgive my historical..) > "Creek Wars" of > 1812-14, and she said he died summer of 1835. I recall > there was more Creek > war (1835??) and 36. Anyway , what I saw was the > application in the early > '1850s'. Would sure like to know if he died in > battle... > > Timpoochee , I may be related to and have researched him > much. He was 1/2 > english and mother full Euchee. I found another Euchee > woman in Creek > County, OK, in family history book , said that Timpoochee > was her > ggrandfather and "fire chief " "back east > before the removals. Timpoochee > was born about 1777 , son of englishman Timothy Barnard , > who set up trade > post Flint River , GA, (on Euchee land). Timpoochee led > 100 Euchee at the > battle of Horshoe Bend (against the Redsticks..????) and > saved the man > whoose face is printed on the american $20 bill (currently) > and responsible > for taking a large part getting the natives removed from > the east to the > west. Yuck. > > Richard B. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:47 PM > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Creek reserves > > > > Hey Richard B. > > > > Yes, that is what I was saying, these were reserves > granted to Friendly > > Creeks for service in the Revolutionary War, Cherokee > Wars and War of > > 1812. My > > ancestors received a 2000 acre reserve for being > scouts in the wars > > against > > the Cherokees and against the British. The > reparations were for farms > > taken > > illegally because of a law enacted by Georgia, that no > Indian could own > > land. > > The Friendly Creeks were theoretically State > Citizens and therefore not > > subject to removal to Alabama, Florida or Oklahoma. > Without warning, a > > troop > > of militia or a sheriff's posse' would show > up at a Friendly Creek's farm > > or > > plantation. The legal occupants would be evicted > without any > > compensation > > whatsoever, and marched at gun point to the nearest > state line. The > > county > > would then auction off the land to the highest > bidder. Generally, these > > dastardly acts were instigated by greedy planters who > wanted cheap land > > with which > > to expand their plantations - or county > commissioners, who needed to > > supplement their tax receipts. > > > > Richard T. > > > > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun > and fits in your > > budget? > > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > > > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 > > > ) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    08/08/2008 10:34:34