It is amazing the knowledge that is shared on this site, Leon, and I appreciate so much knowing more about the Oconaluftee group. Thank you On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Leon Beard wrote: > > Please keep in mind that the core group of ancestors of the Eastern > Band of Cherokees were the Oconaluftee group who had seperated from > the Cherokee nation some 20 years before the Removal, they had > accepted the 640 acre reservation granted to the head of each > household, and North Carolina citizenship, it was a total of 49 > families and I think their names appear on the reservation roll. > they were exempt from the Removal, and during the removal were > hesitant about taking in any Cherokee Refugees hiding out from the > soldiers to avoid removal. > I think that after the removal some Cherokee families who had > avoided removal did merge with the Oconaluftee Band, but many > families did not, and probably never came forward when later tribal > rolls were taken for the Eastern Band of Cherokees > > --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Sam Gipson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Sam Gipson <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Need help with a mystery >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 10:55 PM >> Thank you for the information Richard. >> I will check the Baker Rolls. Think I have >> already done that. >> >> Tks, Sam Arkansas >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "csmoke" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Need help with a mystery >> >> >>> Yes, >>> early decades of 1800 to 1836 , Cherokees were in the >> southeast. When >>> this >>> govt removed about 16,000 to Oklahoma Territory ( >> about 1/4 of that number >>> died on the trail.. and of course did not arrive.) >>> >>> During your time slot.... 1817 to about 1828 , there >> were Cherokees >>> resettling to north central Arkansas (reservation >> land..) . And , just >>> prior to removal in 1835/36/37 , about 1100 or so in >> the southeast >>> "escaped >>> to the hills" rather than be removed. These >> 1100 are the Eastern >>> Cherokees >>> and many family names will later show up on their roll >> .. the Baker Roll. >>> >>> Richard B. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "CheeryFats" >> <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:06 PM >>> Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Need help with a mystery >>> >>> >>>> In 1824 in Early County, GA, Elizabeth Boles >> married Abraham Warren. >>>> Abraham is a ggggguncle of mine. Just a few >> months ago I met, over >>>> the internet, a direct descendant of Elizabeth and >> Abraham (and >>>> several other folks, from whom I descend too). My >> new-found cousin >>>> wanted to know if I had any info on Elizabeth, who >> was American >>>> Indian according to family lore. I didn't >> even know her last name, >>>> so my new-found cousin was way ahead of me. And >> that is how I have >>>> become interested in these Boles. >>>> >>>> Elizabeth and Abraham moved to Coffee County, AL >> and spent several >>>> decades there, then followed their children to >> Henderson County, TX. >>>> The last time I can find them in the census is in >> 1870 in Athens, >>>> Henderson County, TX., though in 1880 Elizabeth >> (then a widow) was >>>> living with their son James. >>>> >>>> There were other Boles in Coffee County, AL during >> those early years, >>>> but there were many more in Henderson County, TX, >> and they were >>>> living near (because they were related through >> marriages) some >>>> Cadenheads. >>>> >>>> I figured that the Boles in Early County GA, >> Coffee County AL and >>>> Henderson County TX were most likely Creeks. >> Indeed, an early (no >>>> pun intended) brief history of Early County, GA >> stated that: >>>> >>>> "Unlike the other counties, it [Early] had >> within its borders a few >>>> Indian towns, where some small bodies of >> "Creeks" had their homes." >>>> >> http://genforum.genealogy.com/sheffield/messages/1936.html >>>> >>>> As I continued searching, I came across >> information that the >>>> Henderson County TX Boles, along with the >> Cadenheads who were their >>>> relatives and neighbors, were Cherokees. Data I >> have seen over the >>>> internet (not the actual documents) includes this >> example: >>>> >>>> "BOLES/CADENHEAD APPLICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP, >> CHEROKEE NATION 1896 >>>> All persons named in this application are members >> of one large >>>> extended family, related by blood and marriage. >> This information was >>>> received from the National Archives in Fort Worth, >> Texas. It >>>> consisted of 42 legal size photocopied pages of >> documents relating to >>>> the applications and appeal of denied citizenship. >> Denial was based >>>> on the fact that James Boles' name was not on >> one of the official >>>> Cherokee Census rolls taken in 1835, 1848, 1851 or >> 1852 and that >>>> James Boles never resided in Indian Territory. All >> persons named in >>>> this are all members of one extended family and >> the report proves >>>> thier lineage and relationship to each >> other." >>>> >>>> This application contained numerous statements >> from witnesses that >>>> the Boles and Cadenheads involved were indeed >> Cherokee. >>>> >>>> Now back to Elizabeth Boles who married my Abraham >> Warren. I have >>>> gotten no further in determining her ancestry, let >> alone whether she >>>> was related to the Boles who were in Henderson >> County, TX, though >>>> there is a hint or two that she may have been. >> What I would >>>> appreciate knowing from any of you is whether >> there is any record of >>>> the names of the Creek families who supposedly >> were in Early County >>>> GA in the first few decades of 1800. And, while >> this seems far- >>>> fetched to me, do any of you know if any Cherokees >> were there at that >>>> time? >>>> >>>> Many thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to >>>> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CREEK- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message