Good Morning again! My Creek grandmother really was a master fried pie maker. By the 1970s she was making over $7000 a year selling home-made dried fruit pies at my grandfather's general store. That is the equivalent of about $30,000 a year today. All of us cousins would go to stay with my grandparents in the summer to help pick apples, peaches and pears. We would cut and dry the fruit on corrugated steel panels in back of the house. Now, in regard to tracing back Upper Creek ancestors, who always said they were Cherokee, but looked very Upper Creek. Upper Creeks look like eagles, by the way. Hitchiti's look like Chief Tomochichi. First of all, I have found proof that Muskogean villages in Western North Carolina and Eastern Tennessee split into factions when the Cherokees arrived on the scene in the early 1700s. Traditionalists and the elite often immigrated to Alabama and set up towns with the same name. Those who were "lower down the totem pole" tended to stay put and join the Cherokee Alliance, beca use the Cherokees had a more egalitarian culture at that time. They were a new hybrid ethnic group without a hereditary leadership once their Kitani priests were assasinated. When the Cherokees moved down into NW Georgia at the close of the American Revolution, they did not displace existing Abikara & Kusa Creek villages located in the vicinity of Rome, Cartersville, LaFayatte, Cedartown and Tallapoosa, GA. Oceola was born in an Upper Creek town near Tallapoosa. In fact, the Abikara Creeks continued to be allies of the Chickamauga Cherokees in the bloody war that continued with the Tennessee Militia until 1793. Chickamauga was originally a Muskogean village. It was the Abikara Creeks who attacked Nashville during this war. Andy Jackson was involved in the defense of Fort Davidson and hated Upper Creeks ever afterward. The Abikara were based in the Muscle Shoals, AL area, which was then part of Georgia. The Cherokee word for Creek Indian today is Kusa-agi (Kusa-agi) They use a different word for Muskogees. In other words, from the late Revolutionary War period forward, the Upper Creeks were allies of the Cherokees. An interesting fact is that I can find no record of Chickamauga Cherokees or Abikara Creeks attacking Georgia settlements, even though the Chickamauga villages were located in Georgia. Abikara Creeks were a hybrid ethnic group themselves, composed of the remnants of various Muskogean towns in Tennessee that included true Creeks, Koasati, Alabama, Chickasaw and Yuchi elements. That is why their war was entirely with the Tennessee, not with the Georgia. The Abikara claimed Tennessee as their traditional motherland. By the 1830s, at least 3000 Upper Creeks were living in the Georgia Cherokee Nation. The US Army built a fort in Rome, GA specifically to try to stem the tide of Alabama Creeks fleeing into the Cherokee Nation after the Red Stick War. The Hitchiti-speaking Georgia Creeks generally wanted nothing to do with the Cherokees and went their own way. Distinct Abikara Creek villages still stood in the Cherokee Nation until the eve of the actual Trail of Tears. Most Abikara and Kusa Creeks were not listed as Cherokee citizens and therefore, were not on the soldiers pickup list. Some cast their fate with the Cherokees and their descendants are now enrolled as Oklahoma Cherokees. Some fled back into Alabama or to regions of Georgia and South Carolina occupied by Friendly Creek state citizens. Many fled into the rugged mountains of NW Georgia (where the alleged Bigfoot body was found!) Their descendants never left the region. Until recently, they would tell people they were Cherokees, because Creeks have a reputation for not taking guff off of anybody (who? moi?) More recently some Upper Creek families have come out of the closet and admitted that they are actually bloodthirsty Creeks rather than nice, submissive Cherokees. LOL So, if you have an ancestor who was living in Murray, Fannin, Gilmer, Pickens, Union or Gordon Counties in Georgia, or Polk County in Tennessee, who look Upper Creek, but at times told people they were Cherokees, the chances are that their ancestors were actually Upper Creek refugees from the Cherokee Trail of Tears, who originally hid out in the Cohutta Mountains. Richard T. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 )

I think maybe you convince me my ancestors were upper Creek, my grandfather had the eagle face. My aunt would not tell me why , but when "someone" heard I was searching, I was told to inquire about the Chicamaugua Cherokee. Have no paper, but still think the "mysterious" gave correct information. Richard B. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:21 AM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Serious comment for a change - if you are lookingfor Upper Creek ancestors > Good Morning again! > > My Creek grandmother really was a master fried pie maker. By the 1970s > she > was making over $7000 a year selling home-made dried fruit pies at my > grandfather's general store. That is the equivalent of about $30,000 a > year today. > All of us cousins would go to stay with my grandparents in the summer to > help > pick apples, peaches and pears. We would cut and dry the fruit on > corrugated steel panels in back of the house. > > Now, in regard to tracing back Upper Creek ancestors, who always said they > were Cherokee, but looked very Upper Creek. Upper Creeks look like > eagles, by > the way. Hitchiti's look like Chief Tomochichi. > > First of all, I have found proof that Muskogean villages in Western > North > Carolina and Eastern Tennessee split into factions when the Cherokees > arrived > on the scene in the early 1700s. Traditionalists and the elite often > immigrated to Alabama and set up towns with the same name. Those who > were "lower > down the totem pole" tended to stay put and join the Cherokee Alliance, > beca > use the Cherokees had a more egalitarian culture at that time. They were > a new > hybrid ethnic group without a hereditary leadership once their Kitani > priests > were assasinated. > > When the Cherokees moved down into NW Georgia at the close of the American > Revolution, they did not displace existing Abikara & Kusa Creek villages > located in the vicinity of Rome, Cartersville, LaFayatte, Cedartown and > Tallapoosa, GA. Oceola was born in an Upper Creek town near Tallapoosa. > In fact, the > Abikara Creeks continued to be allies of the Chickamauga Cherokees in the > bloody war that continued with the Tennessee Militia until 1793. > Chickamauga was > originally a Muskogean village. It was the Abikara Creeks who attacked > Nashville during this war. Andy Jackson was involved in the defense of > Fort > Davidson and hated Upper Creeks ever afterward. The Abikara were based > in the > Muscle Shoals, AL area, which was then part of Georgia. The Cherokee > word for > Creek Indian today is Kusa-agi (Kusa-agi) They use a different word for > Muskogees. In other words, from the late Revolutionary War period > forward, the > Upper Creeks were allies of the Cherokees. > > An interesting fact is that I can find no record of Chickamauga Cherokees > or > Abikara Creeks attacking Georgia settlements, even though the Chickamauga > villages were located in Georgia. Abikara Creeks were a hybrid ethnic > group > themselves, composed of the remnants of various Muskogean towns in > Tennessee > that included true Creeks, Koasati, Alabama, Chickasaw and Yuchi elements. > That > is why their war was entirely with the Tennessee, not with the Georgia. > The > Abikara claimed Tennessee as their traditional motherland. > > By the 1830s, at least 3000 Upper Creeks were living in the Georgia > Cherokee Nation. The US Army built a fort in Rome, GA specifically to try > to stem > the tide of Alabama Creeks fleeing into the Cherokee Nation after the Red > Stick > War. The Hitchiti-speaking Georgia Creeks generally wanted nothing to do > with the Cherokees and went their own way. Distinct Abikara Creek > villages > still stood in the Cherokee Nation until the eve of the actual Trail of > Tears. > Most Abikara and Kusa Creeks were not listed as Cherokee citizens and > therefore, were not on the soldiers pickup list. Some cast their fate > with the > Cherokees and their descendants are now enrolled as Oklahoma Cherokees. > Some > fled back into Alabama or to regions of Georgia and South Carolina > occupied by > Friendly Creek state citizens. Many fled into the rugged mountains of NW > Georgia (where the alleged Bigfoot body was found!) Their descendants > never left > the region. Until recently, they would tell people they were Cherokees, > because Creeks have a reputation for not taking guff off of anybody (who? > moi?) > More recently some Upper Creek families have come out of the closet and > admitted that they are actually bloodthirsty Creeks rather than nice, > submissive Cherokees. LOL > > So, if you have an ancestor who was living in Murray, Fannin, Gilmer, > Pickens, Union or Gordon Counties in Georgia, or Polk County in > Tennessee, who > look Upper Creek, but at times told people they were Cherokees, the > chances > are that their ancestors were actually Upper Creek refugees from the > Cherokee > Trail of Tears, who originally hid out in the Cohutta Mountains. > > Richard T. > > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

OK....I'm bite....Upper Creeks look like > eagles, by > the way. Hitchiti's look like Chief Tomochichi......what does a person > look like other than a hooked nose and what does Chief Tomochichi look > like??? Someone have pictures to illustrate? TT ----- Original Message ----- From: "csmoke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Serious comment for a change - if you arelookingfor Upper Creek ancestors >I think maybe you convince me my ancestors were upper Creek, my grandfather > had the eagle face. My aunt would not tell me why , but when "someone" > heard I was searching, I was told to inquire about the Chicamaugua > Cherokee. > Have no paper, but still think the "mysterious" gave correct information. > > Richard B. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:21 AM > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Serious comment for a change - if you are > lookingfor Upper Creek ancestors > > >> Good Morning again! >> >> My Creek grandmother really was a master fried pie maker. By the 1970s >> she >> was making over $7000 a year selling home-made dried fruit pies at my >> grandfather's general store. That is the equivalent of about $30,000 a >> year today. >> All of us cousins would go to stay with my grandparents in the summer to >> help >> pick apples, peaches and pears. We would cut and dry the fruit on >> corrugated steel panels in back of the house. >> >> Now, in regard to tracing back Upper Creek ancestors, who always said >> they >> were Cherokee, but looked very Upper Creek. Upper Creeks look like >> eagles, by >> the way. Hitchiti's look like Chief Tomochichi. >> >> First of all, I have found proof that Muskogean villages in Western >> North >> Carolina and Eastern Tennessee split into factions when the Cherokees >> arrived >> on the scene in the early 1700s. Traditionalists and the elite often >> immigrated to Alabama and set up towns with the same name. Those who >> were "lower >> down the totem pole" tended to stay put and join the Cherokee Alliance, >> beca >> use the Cherokees had a more egalitarian culture at that time. They were >> a new >> hybrid ethnic group without a hereditary leadership once their Kitani >> priests >> were assasinated. >> >> When the Cherokees moved down into NW Georgia at the close of the >> American >> Revolution, they did not displace existing Abikara & Kusa Creek villages >> located in the vicinity of Rome, Cartersville, LaFayatte, Cedartown and >> Tallapoosa, GA. Oceola was born in an Upper Creek town near Tallapoosa. >> In fact, the >> Abikara Creeks continued to be allies of the Chickamauga Cherokees in >> the >> bloody war that continued with the Tennessee Militia until 1793. >> Chickamauga was >> originally a Muskogean village. It was the Abikara Creeks who attacked >> Nashville during this war. Andy Jackson was involved in the defense of >> Fort >> Davidson and hated Upper Creeks ever afterward. The Abikara were based >> in the >> Muscle Shoals, AL area, which was then part of Georgia. The Cherokee >> word for >> Creek Indian today is Kusa-agi (Kusa-agi) They use a different word for >> Muskogees. In other words, from the late Revolutionary War period >> forward, the >> Upper Creeks were allies of the Cherokees. >> >> An interesting fact is that I can find no record of Chickamauga Cherokees >> or >> Abikara Creeks attacking Georgia settlements, even though the Chickamauga >> villages were located in Georgia. Abikara Creeks were a hybrid ethnic >> group >> themselves, composed of the remnants of various Muskogean towns in >> Tennessee >> that included true Creeks, Koasati, Alabama, Chickasaw and Yuchi >> elements. >> That >> is why their war was entirely with the Tennessee, not with the Georgia. >> The >> Abikara claimed Tennessee as their traditional motherland. >> >> By the 1830s, at least 3000 Upper Creeks were living in the Georgia >> Cherokee Nation. The US Army built a fort in Rome, GA specifically to try >> to stem >> the tide of Alabama Creeks fleeing into the Cherokee Nation after the Red >> Stick >> War. The Hitchiti-speaking Georgia Creeks generally wanted nothing to do >> with the Cherokees and went their own way. Distinct Abikara Creek >> villages >> still stood in the Cherokee Nation until the eve of the actual Trail of >> Tears. >> Most Abikara and Kusa Creeks were not listed as Cherokee citizens and >> therefore, were not on the soldiers pickup list. Some cast their fate >> with the >> Cherokees and their descendants are now enrolled as Oklahoma Cherokees. >> Some >> fled back into Alabama or to regions of Georgia and South Carolina >> occupied by >> Friendly Creek state citizens. Many fled into the rugged mountains of >> NW >> Georgia (where the alleged Bigfoot body was found!) Their descendants >> never left >> the region. Until recently, they would tell people they were Cherokees, >> because Creeks have a reputation for not taking guff off of anybody >> (who? >> moi?) >> More recently some Upper Creek families have come out of the closet and >> admitted that they are actually bloodthirsty Creeks rather than nice, >> submissive Cherokees. LOL >> >> So, if you have an ancestor who was living in Murray, Fannin, Gilmer, >> Pickens, Union or Gordon Counties in Georgia, or Polk County in >> Tennessee, who >> look Upper Creek, but at times told people they were Cherokees, the >> chances >> are that their ancestors were actually Upper Creek refugees from the >> Cherokee >> Trail of Tears, who originally hid out in the Cohutta Mountains. >> >> Richard T. >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your >> budget? >> Read reviews on AOL Autos. >> (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 >> ) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My grandfather "appearance" eagle face... he looked like the man on the back side of the old buffalo nickel, but he did not wear his hair long. He had black hair, much darker face, and short small person like some of the Euchee I have seen. But, he was much darker than any of the modern Euchee I have seen. I have seen Cheyenne as dark and some cuzns claimed we are, but some cuzns say Black Dutch. Yuck! Nuts!!! Richard B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Timothy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Serious comment for a change - if youarelookingfor Upper Creek ancestors > OK....I'm bite....Upper Creeks look like >> eagles, by >> the way. Hitchiti's look like Chief Tomochichi......what does a person >> look like other than a hooked nose and what does Chief Tomochichi look >> like??? Someone have pictures to illustrate? TT > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "csmoke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 6:39 PM > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Serious comment for a change - if you > arelookingfor Upper Creek ancestors > > >>I think maybe you convince me my ancestors were upper Creek, my >>grandfather >> had the eagle face. My aunt would not tell me why , but when "someone" >> heard I was searching, I was told to inquire about the Chicamaugua >> Cherokee. >> Have no paper, but still think the "mysterious" gave correct information. >> >> Richard B. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:21 AM >> Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Serious comment for a change - if you are >> lookingfor Upper Creek ancestors >> >> >>> Good Morning again! >>> >>> My Creek grandmother really was a master fried pie maker. By the 1970s >>> she >>> was making over $7000 a year selling home-made dried fruit pies at my >>> grandfather's general store. That is the equivalent of about $30,000 a >>> year today. >>> All of us cousins would go to stay with my grandparents in the summer >>> to >>> help >>> pick apples, peaches and pears. We would cut and dry the fruit on >>> corrugated steel panels in back of the house. >>> >>> Now, in regard to tracing back Upper Creek ancestors, who always said >>> they >>> were Cherokee, but looked very Upper Creek. Upper Creeks look like >>> eagles, by >>> the way. Hitchiti's look like Chief Tomochichi. >>> >>> First of all, I have found proof that Muskogean villages in Western >>> North >>> Carolina and Eastern Tennessee split into factions when the Cherokees >>> arrived >>> on the scene in the early 1700s. Traditionalists and the elite often >>> immigrated to Alabama and set up towns with the same name. Those who >>> were "lower >>> down the totem pole" tended to stay put and join the Cherokee Alliance, >>> beca >>> use the Cherokees had a more egalitarian culture at that time. They >>> were >>> a new >>> hybrid ethnic group without a hereditary leadership once their Kitani >>> priests >>> were assasinated. >>> >>> When the Cherokees moved down into NW Georgia at the close of the >>> American >>> Revolution, they did not displace existing Abikara & Kusa Creek >>> villages >>> located in the vicinity of Rome, Cartersville, LaFayatte, Cedartown and >>> Tallapoosa, GA. Oceola was born in an Upper Creek town near Tallapoosa. >>> In fact, the >>> Abikara Creeks continued to be allies of the Chickamauga Cherokees in >>> the >>> bloody war that continued with the Tennessee Militia until 1793. >>> Chickamauga was >>> originally a Muskogean village. It was the Abikara Creeks who attacked >>> Nashville during this war. Andy Jackson was involved in the defense of >>> Fort >>> Davidson and hated Upper Creeks ever afterward. The Abikara were based >>> in the >>> Muscle Shoals, AL area, which was then part of Georgia. The Cherokee >>> word for >>> Creek Indian today is Kusa-agi (Kusa-agi) They use a different word >>> for >>> Muskogees. In other words, from the late Revolutionary War period >>> forward, the >>> Upper Creeks were allies of the Cherokees. >>> >>> An interesting fact is that I can find no record of Chickamauga >>> Cherokees >>> or >>> Abikara Creeks attacking Georgia settlements, even though the >>> Chickamauga >>> villages were located in Georgia. Abikara Creeks were a hybrid ethnic >>> group >>> themselves, composed of the remnants of various Muskogean towns in >>> Tennessee >>> that included true Creeks, Koasati, Alabama, Chickasaw and Yuchi >>> elements. >>> That >>> is why their war was entirely with the Tennessee, not with the Georgia. >>> The >>> Abikara claimed Tennessee as their traditional motherland. >>> >>> By the 1830s, at least 3000 Upper Creeks were living in the Georgia >>> Cherokee Nation. The US Army built a fort in Rome, GA specifically to >>> try >>> to stem >>> the tide of Alabama Creeks fleeing into the Cherokee Nation after the >>> Red >>> Stick >>> War. The Hitchiti-speaking Georgia Creeks generally wanted nothing to >>> do >>> with the Cherokees and went their own way. Distinct Abikara Creek >>> villages >>> still stood in the Cherokee Nation until the eve of the actual Trail of >>> Tears. >>> Most Abikara and Kusa Creeks were not listed as Cherokee citizens and >>> therefore, were not on the soldiers pickup list. Some cast their fate >>> with the >>> Cherokees and their descendants are now enrolled as Oklahoma Cherokees. >>> Some >>> fled back into Alabama or to regions of Georgia and South Carolina >>> occupied by >>> Friendly Creek state citizens. Many fled into the rugged mountains of >>> NW >>> Georgia (where the alleged Bigfoot body was found!) Their descendants >>> never left >>> the region. Until recently, they would tell people they were >>> Cherokees, >>> because Creeks have a reputation for not taking guff off of anybody >>> (who? >>> moi?) >>> More recently some Upper Creek families have come out of the closet >>> and >>> admitted that they are actually bloodthirsty Creeks rather than nice, >>> submissive Cherokees. LOL >>> >>> So, if you have an ancestor who was living in Murray, Fannin, Gilmer, >>> Pickens, Union or Gordon Counties in Georgia, or Polk County in >>> Tennessee, who >>> look Upper Creek, but at times told people they were Cherokees, the >>> chances >>> are that their ancestors were actually Upper Creek refugees from the >>> Cherokee >>> Trail of Tears, who originally hid out in the Cohutta Mountains. >>> >>> Richard T. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your >>> budget? >>> Read reviews on AOL Autos. >>> (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 >>> ) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

The thought of home made fried sweet potato pie makes me salivate. S At 08:21 AM 8/17/2008, you wrote: >Good Morning again! > >My Creek grandmother really was a master fried pie maker. By the 1970s she >was making over $7000 a year selling home-made dried fruit pies at my >grandfather's general store. That is the equivalent of about $30,000 >a year today. >All of us cousins would go to stay with my grandparents in >the summer to help >pick apples, peaches and pears. We would cut and dry the fruit on >corrugated steel panels in back of the house. > >Now, in regard to tracing back Upper Creek ancestors, who always said they >were Cherokee, but looked very Upper Creek. Upper Creeks look like >eagles, by >the way. Hitchiti's look like Chief Tomochichi. > >First of all, I have found proof that Muskogean villages in Western North >Carolina and Eastern Tennessee split into factions when the >Cherokees arrived >on the scene in the early 1700s. Traditionalists and the elite often >immigrated to Alabama and set up towns with the same name. Those >who were "lower >down the totem pole" tended to stay put and join the Cherokee Alliance, beca >use the Cherokees had a more egalitarian culture at that time. They >were a new >hybrid ethnic group without a hereditary leadership once their >Kitani priests >were assasinated. > >When the Cherokees moved down into NW Georgia at the close of the American >Revolution, they did not displace existing Abikara & Kusa Creek villages >located in the vicinity of Rome, Cartersville, LaFayatte, Cedartown and >Tallapoosa, GA. Oceola was born in an Upper Creek town >near Tallapoosa. In fact, the >Abikara Creeks continued to be allies of the Chickamauga Cherokees in the >bloody war that continued with the Tennessee Militia until 1793. >Chickamauga was >originally a Muskogean village. It was the Abikara Creeks who attacked >Nashville during this war. Andy Jackson was involved in the defense of Fort >Davidson and hated Upper Creeks ever afterward. The Abikara were >based in the >Muscle Shoals, AL area, which was then part of Georgia. The >Cherokee word for >Creek Indian today is Kusa-agi (Kusa-agi) They use a different word for >Muskogees. In other words, from the late Revolutionary War period >forward, the >Upper Creeks were allies of the Cherokees. > >An interesting fact is that I can find no record of Chickamauga Cherokees or >Abikara Creeks attacking Georgia settlements, even though the Chickamauga >villages were located in Georgia. Abikara Creeks were a hybrid ethnic group >themselves, composed of the remnants of various Muskogean towns in Tennessee >that included true Creeks, Koasati, Alabama, Chickasaw and Yuchi >elements. That >is why their war was entirely with the Tennessee, not with the Georgia. The >Abikara claimed Tennessee as their traditional motherland. > >By the 1830s, at least 3000 Upper Creeks were living in the Georgia >Cherokee Nation. The US Army built a fort in Rome, GA specifically >to try to stem >the tide of Alabama Creeks fleeing into the Cherokee Nation after >the Red Stick >War. The Hitchiti-speaking Georgia Creeks generally wanted nothing to do >with the Cherokees and went their own way. Distinct Abikara Creek villages >still stood in the Cherokee Nation until the eve of the >actual Trail of Tears. >Most Abikara and Kusa Creeks were not listed as Cherokee citizens and >therefore, were not on the soldiers pickup list. Some cast their >fate with the >Cherokees and their descendants are now enrolled as Oklahoma >Cherokees. Some >fled back into Alabama or to regions of Georgia and South Carolina >occupied by >Friendly Creek state citizens. Many fled into the rugged mountains of NW >Georgia (where the alleged Bigfoot body was found!) Their >descendants never left >the region. Until recently, they would tell people they were Cherokees, >because Creeks have a reputation for not taking guff off of anybody >(who? moi?) > More recently some Upper Creek families have come out of the closet and >admitted that they are actually bloodthirsty Creeks rather than nice, >submissive Cherokees. LOL > >So, if you have an ancestor who was living in Murray, Fannin, Gilmer, >Pickens, Union or Gordon Counties in Georgia, or Polk County >in Tennessee, who >look Upper Creek, but at times told people they >were Cherokees, the chances >are that their ancestors were actually Upper Creek refugees from >the Cherokee >Trail of Tears, who originally hid out in the Cohutta Mountains. > >Richard T. > > > > > >**************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? >Read reviews on AOL Autos. >(http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 >) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: >8/16/2008 5:12 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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