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    1. [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Indian Tribe in the Florida Everglades
    2. Richard, After a bad hurricane and flood in south Florida. My Grandfather ( Loren Robert's) while hunting discovered the skeletal remains of a large Indian man. He apparently had washed out of the grave (Shell-mound.) The location was in the Everglades, west, near the Humpback bridge...not far from Flamingo. Now headquarters for Everglades National Park. My Grandfather said the man was at least 7-8 feet tall... Granddaddy Robert's and a Seminole Indian named "Wilson Cypress" buried the Indian. It was a custom to bury the bodies sitting up, facing east, I was told. Seminole's in the Everglade hunted and trapped bear with my family. Seminole's were not tall like this man. We have pictures of them. My family traded gator hides, plumes, turtles, and meat, including smoked manatee with them from late 1800s. The only word I remember was (nic-a-noc-a -noc-ca) Indian word for deer.I wonder if this is correct ( ?) A gentleman was talking about the South Florida Indians. At the University of Florida a couple of years ago. He made the statement there were no Indians ever located in the "far south I wanted to tell him he was wrong but I figured they would all go down there and dig up the bones and disturb the mound, destroy it and the history too. Just like they did the Everglades....... Government took the Park land from the settlers in 1947........ They brought in strange plants called malaluka, (to dry up the River of Grass) and several non native plants that took over the Everglades. Government workers cut trails, built another road and built the headquarters in Flamingo . Settler's were burned out and the Federal Park took the land. " sounds familiar doesn't it"? Oil was discovered there in West Lake. A capped off well was there the last time I went down...... But they changed the road to bypass it We figured it was an Oil Reserve. I have the newspaper article that can prove it. There is an Oil well in Clewiston, pumps every day.... Not far from Homestead. and the Tamiami Trail. "Educated Idiots" my grandfather called them! . Department of the Interior caused the problems that are there now. They thought the water brought inland from floods would destroy the glades with all of the salt content. To my knowledge that is about the only place to find crocks and alligators in the United States living together. Bald Eagles and Black Florida Panther lived there: many endangered may be still there. My grandfather tried to tell them that once the water came in during flooding, it filled up the holes for gators to live in and fish could grow and survive until the following year. Birds, wild ducks,deer,bear and animals needed fresh water to survive The rock land there is full of holes and dirt fills the holes, it makes a good home for turtles,fish,gators and most wild life. They use the holes for water when it rains the holes store fresh water. The next flood would carry the minnows, small fish, snails back into Florida Bay. Grandfather and our family had lived there 50 years and tried never to kill only what we needed to eat. Robert's Prarie and Loren Robert's Park in Florida City Fl. are dedicated to him. Now it will cost "Billions of dollars" and can never be restored. Richard, have you ever visited Flamingo? Betty . **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

    08/06/2008 09:46:56
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Indian Tribe in the Florida Everglades
    2. Robert Page
    3. There is also a capped oil well at Sunniland about 20 miles north of Everglades city on SR 29. This was one of Billy Bowlegs villages that caused caused the 3rd Seminole War. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 3:46 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Indian Tribe in the Florida Everglades > Richard, > > After a bad hurricane and flood in south Florida. My Grandfather ( Loren > Robert's) while hunting discovered the skeletal remains of a large Indian > man. He > apparently had washed out of the grave (Shell-mound.) The location was in > the > Everglades, west, near the Humpback bridge...not far from Flamingo. Now > headquarters for Everglades National Park. My Grandfather said the man > was at least > 7-8 feet tall... > > Granddaddy Robert's and a Seminole Indian named "Wilson Cypress" buried > the > Indian. It was a custom to bury the bodies sitting up, facing east, I was > told. > > Seminole's in the Everglade hunted and trapped bear with my family. > Seminole's were not tall like this man. We have pictures of them. My > family traded > gator hides, plumes, turtles, and meat, including smoked manatee with them > from > late 1800s. The only word I remember was (nic-a-noc-a -noc-ca) Indian word > for > deer.I wonder if this is correct ( ?) > > A gentleman was talking about the South Florida Indians. At the University > of Florida a couple of years ago. He made the statement there were no > Indians > ever located in the "far south > I wanted to tell him he was wrong but I figured they would all go down > there > and dig up the bones and disturb the mound, destroy it and the history > too. > > Just like they did the Everglades....... Government took the Park land > from > the settlers in 1947........ > They brought in strange plants called malaluka, (to dry up the River of > Grass) and several non native plants that took over the Everglades. > Government > workers cut trails, built another road and built the headquarters in > Flamingo > . Settler's were burned out and the Federal Park took the land. " > sounds > familiar doesn't it"? > > Oil was discovered there in West Lake. A capped off well was there the > last > time I went down...... But they changed the road to bypass it We figured > it > was an Oil Reserve. > I have the newspaper article that can prove it. > There is an Oil well in Clewiston, pumps every day.... Not far from > Homestead. and the Tamiami Trail. > > "Educated Idiots" my grandfather called them! >

    08/06/2008 09:55:09
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Indian Tribe in the Florida Everglades
    2. songmaker2
    3. > After a bad hurricane and flood in south Florida. My Grandfather ( Loren > Robert's) while hunting discovered the skeletal remains of a large Indian man. > My Grandfather said the man was at least > 7-8 feet tall... The Calusa people (pre-Seminole) of South Florida, were known to be tall people. Paul Hornsby

    08/06/2008 10:06:13
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Indian Tribe in the Florida Everglades
    2. CheeryFats
    3. I have no idea as to its accuracy, but here is a brief account of the Calusa: http://fcit.usf.edu/florida/lessons/calusa/calusa1.htm On Aug 6, 2008, at 1:06 PM, songmaker2 wrote: > >> After a bad hurricane and flood in south Florida. My Grandfather >> ( Loren >> Robert's) while hunting discovered the skeletal remains of a large >> Indian > man. >> My Grandfather said the man was at least >> 7-8 feet tall... > > The Calusa people (pre-Seminole) of South Florida, were known to be > tall > people. > Paul Hornsby > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CREEK- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/06/2008 07:59:22