> How does one go about finding out if the name on the list is indeed one's gr grandmother? >

What part of the country do you live? If you are near or within access distance of one of the National Archives go there. I am thinking there is an Archives in Atlanta, GA. (and other regionals). Richard T. , may know that one. Regarding Dawes, first do your best research to know about your person of interest. Have their (your own known ancestor)'s best identification you can. Things like their full name, where they were living (year) at the time of a census date, the post office address for them, etc. The reason for this is for the archives to verify exactly who you are asking about. On the Dawes roll, there are two numbers by your person's name... Census Number and Allotment Number, have both when talking to the Archives. If your person was in a household with others... those in the home will all share the same census number , but only the Allotment number will be unique to that individual. (so.., if there were 4,5, etc in the same home and you know them to possibly be relatives... copy all their numbers to have available to the archives). Then, your resourse room at your large library, should provide you with a request form for information , this is "similar" to the form for getting union civil war soldier's pension records. Fill the form best you can and also a cover letter with as much identification/person , and send to the 'National Archives in Ft. Worth, Texas... asking for the "Census Packet File / & Dawes Application" / your person's name . Write at the top of your page "Please send all copies". Ft. Worth has all the existing original packet files. These records are kept in "packets" and ask for "All copies". The Dawes application was a standard form of 10 or 20 questions, for the applicant to prove their identity and being native/elgible.... In addition to the application, you may get letters (from your ancestor , a lawyer, etc.) to the government. All this was kept in a packet tied up with a ribbon.... & the person's name/number on the outside. The archives as I recall does not charge to start, but when I last knew , & they locate the file, it was a $25 fee for up to 20 pages , then .50 cts per page above that. One file I obtained , had 55 pages, but the information was incredible. Fee is likely higher now, what isn't. Hope this gets you to Ft. Worth... Richard B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "barbara keel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Question about Dawes Roll > >> How does one go about finding out if the name on the list is indeed one's >> gr grandmother? >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Someone asked the quetion about what is in the packet. If you go here http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/packets/ you will find some packets that we have put online that other people have provided. I metioned earlier about being able to get the packets online from Footnote, a monthly subscription is like $7.95, which is much cheaper than the National Archive or Oklahoma History Center and you get the information right now. Judy On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:16 PM, csmoke <[email protected]> wrote: > What part of the country do you live? If you are near or within access > distance of one of the National Archives go there. I am thinking there is > an Archives in Atlanta, GA. (and other regionals). Richard > T. , may know that one. > > Regarding Dawes, first do your best research to know about your person of > interest. Have their (your own known ancestor)'s best identification you > can. Things like their full name, where they were living (year) at the > time > of a census date, the post office address for them, etc. The reason for > this is for the archives to verify exactly who you are asking about. > > On the Dawes roll, there are two numbers by your person's name... Census > Number and Allotment Number, have both when talking to the Archives. If > your person was in a household with others... those in the home will all > share the same census number , but only the Allotment number will be unique > to that individual. (so.., if there were 4,5, etc in the same home and you > know them to possibly be relatives... copy all their numbers to have > available to the archives). > > Then, your resourse room at your large library, should provide you with a > request form for information , this is "similar" to the form for getting > union civil war soldier's pension records. Fill the form best you can and > also a cover letter with as much identification/person , and send to the > 'National Archives in Ft. Worth, Texas... asking for the "Census Packet > File > / & Dawes Application" / your person's name . Write at the top of your > page > "Please send all copies". Ft. Worth has all the existing original packet > files. > > These records are kept in "packets" and ask for "All copies". The Dawes > application was a standard form of 10 or 20 questions, for the applicant to > prove their identity and being native/elgible.... In addition to the > application, you may get letters (from your ancestor , a lawyer, etc.) to > the government. All this was kept in a packet tied up with a ribbon.... & > the person's name/number on the outside. > > The archives as I recall does not charge to start, but when I last knew , & > they locate the file, it was a $25 fee for up to 20 pages , then .50 cts > per > page above that. One file I obtained , had 55 pages, but the information > was incredible. Fee is likely higher now, what isn't. > > Hope this gets you to Ft. Worth... > > Richard B. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "barbara keel" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:06 PM > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Question about Dawes Roll > > > > > >> How does one go about finding out if the name on the list is indeed > one's > >> gr grandmother? > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many Many thanks, Barb csmoke wrote: > What part of the country do you live? If you are near or within access > distance of one of the National Archives go there. I am thinking there is > an Archives in Atlanta, GA. (and other regionals). Richard > T. , may know that one. > > Regarding Dawes, first do your best research to know about your person of > interest. > Hope this gets you to Ft. Worth... > > Richard B. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "barbara keel" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:06 PM > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Question about Dawes Roll > > > >>> How does one go about finding out if the name on the list is indeed one's >>> gr grandmother? >>> >>> >>>