Wished we knew who came before my grand daddy Tom Timothy (abt 1853) and from where...he was raised as an orphan, so I was told based on an uncle and daddy applying on the Guion Miller records. Where in the Panhandle are or were the Yuchi? TT ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:20 AM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Do any of your Creek families have known Yuchi orShawnee ancestors? > One of the many puzzles I am trying to solve in my study of the Southern > Highlands is the disappearance of Yuchi and Shawnee communities. The > Yuchi > were all over the place in the 1700s. There were large Yuchi towns even > in the > vicinity of Marion and Old Fort, NC (on I-40 east of Asheville) up until > the > mid-18th century. Joara, which the Warren Wilson College archaeologists > are > mistakenly calling a Cherokee town, was undoubtedly Yuchi since it was > near > modern-day Marion. The main body of Cherokee immigrated into North > Carolina > from the west during the late 1600s, and never lived east of the Blue > Ridge > Mountains in North Carolina. In fact, there were only two small Cherokee > hamlets in the entire French Broad River > Valley(Asheville-Hendersonville-Marshall > area) in the mid-1700s. The surviving Indian place names in the French > Broad > River valley are all Muskogean words - eg Etowah & Swannanoa > (Suwanee-owa) > > As late as the early 1800s, we see maps of northern Georgia and western > South Carolina with Yuchi and Shawnee villages on them. The Shawnee were > in the > Highlands long before the Cherokee. They were either allies or part of > the > Creek Confederacy, but ethnically not Muskogean. Suwanee, GA in north > Metro > Atlanta, where the Falcons have their training camp, was obviously a > Shawnee > town when the white settlers arrived in the 1830s. > > The State of Tennessee has documented the presence of ethnic Yuchi hamlets > in the rugged Cohutta mountains of Polk County, TN and Fannin County, GA > as > late as 1911. However, by the mid-20th century these families had > seemingly > disappeared, and most locals today do not even know what a Yuchi is. > > However, POOF! All the Shawnee towns and most of the Yuchi towns > disappeared once the main body of Alabama Creeks were deported to > Oklahoma. The > "Friendly" Hitchiti Creeks of Georgia also seemed to disappear from > history. Yes, > there are still Yuchi communities in Oklahoma and the Florida Panhandle, > but > not nearly approaching the number of Yuchi communities scattered around > the > Southeast in the 1700s and early 1800s. > > So, did the ethnic Shawnee and Yuchi just melt into the woods and > intermarry with European and African neighbors? Did they cease calling > themselves > anything but Creek? Did they move to another part of the country? Did > they > merge with the Creeks, Cherokees and Choctaws in Oklahoma and lose their > ethnic > identity? > > So do any of you have ancestors, who were known to be Shawnee or Yuchi, > but > intermarried into Creek families and thus became known as Muscogee-Creeks > in > Oklahoma? > > > Inquiring minds want to know! > > > PS - After a month I have not received a response from Moccasin Bend > National Park about us camping there this Fall, so I guess the answer is > no. We > will look elsewhere. > > Richard T. > > > > > > **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your > travel > deal here. > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >