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    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories
    2. csmoke

    3. When will the Marshall museum be finished? Richard B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Gipson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories > Another event has come to Ft. Smith, Arkansas. > The US Marshall's Museum is being built there. > Would be a wonderful place to visit and the town also. > > Thanks, Sam > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "csmoke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:56 AM > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories > > >> Evelyn, >> Emmett Dalton's book "Beyond the Law" is a self biography of the >> "gang"... >> sort of a who / why/ how. He does not mention Emmett Starr that I >> recall. >> (Dr.) Emmett Strarr , of course is noted for his book(s) on History of >> the >> Cherokee , written about 1914 (?) and later published, The Notes of Dr. >> Emmett Starr. If you seek out Starr's book on the Cherokees, look for >> the >> later republished version "indexed" by Dorothy "Tincup" Mauldin. First >> published not indexed!! >> >> Some of the Daltons (Frank) (& couple others) were U.S. Marshalls from >> the >> court in Ft. Smith, AR. There were Starr "Boys" outlaw(s) (& Belle >> Starr). >> I think I recall that the outlaw Starrs were half breed Cherokees, but do >> not take that to the bank :o) There are online court cases for Ft. >> Smith, >> AR. I once visited the court there and they have a (reconstucted ??) >> gallows for hanging. >> >> Richard B. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Evelyn S. Leslie" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:29 PM >> Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories >> >> >>> Richard wrote: << The "skeletons" have really came out of the closet >>> with >>> this genealogy business, >>> I think my relatives just did not know their family very well. I >>> recently >>> find in my father's mother's line (Moore) is her aunt was member of >>> Dalton >>> Gang , according to Emmett Dalton's book about the hard cases. Emmett >>> gives >>> her as Eugenia Moore , .. I have some letters and I think one from >>> Eugenia >>> from I.T. to her family (my father's grandmother) here in MO. >>> I think it is good that we do not (R.I.P.) let them be forgotten.>> >>> >>> Richard, that is so true and I think that's what keeps it interesting! >>> Is >>> there anything about Emmett Starr in Dalton's book? I ran across >>> something on some Creek testimony in Okmulgee, OK IT last week and I >>> keep >>> wanting to think he was a known western character. Come to think of it, >>> I >>> guess I could just google that name. Anyway, I do agree wholeheartedly >>> with you about the skeletons out of the closet. I think because of >>> internet research and the world seeming to be so much smaller nowadays, >>> the later generations are not so hung up on proving how prestigious and >>> important their ancestors were and are accepting the facts, good or bad, >>> and this has in turn made us all much more tolerant........at least I >>> like >>> to think so :-) >>> Regards, >>> Evelyn >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

    08/05/2008 10:04:47
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories
    2. Sam Gipson

    3. I will have to check and let you know. It was started in Feb, 08, if I am not mistaken. I will check and see. Thanks, Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "csmoke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories > When will the Marshall museum be finished? > > Richard B. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Gipson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:12 AM > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories > > >> Another event has come to Ft. Smith, Arkansas. >> The US Marshall's Museum is being built there. >> Would be a wonderful place to visit and the town also. >> >> Thanks, Sam >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "csmoke" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:56 AM >> Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories >> >> >>> Evelyn, >>> Emmett Dalton's book "Beyond the Law" is a self biography of the >>> "gang"... >>> sort of a who / why/ how. He does not mention Emmett Starr that I >>> recall. >>> (Dr.) Emmett Strarr , of course is noted for his book(s) on History of >>> the >>> Cherokee , written about 1914 (?) and later published, The Notes of Dr. >>> Emmett Starr. If you seek out Starr's book on the Cherokees, look for >>> the >>> later republished version "indexed" by Dorothy "Tincup" Mauldin. First >>> published not indexed!! >>> >>> Some of the Daltons (Frank) (& couple others) were U.S. Marshalls from >>> the >>> court in Ft. Smith, AR. There were Starr "Boys" outlaw(s) (& Belle >>> Starr). >>> I think I recall that the outlaw Starrs were half breed Cherokees, but >>> do >>> not take that to the bank :o) There are online court cases for Ft. >>> Smith, >>> AR. I once visited the court there and they have a (reconstucted ??) >>> gallows for hanging. >>> >>> Richard B. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Evelyn S. Leslie" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:29 PM >>> Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories >>> >>> >>>> Richard wrote: << The "skeletons" have really came out of the closet >>>> with >>>> this genealogy business, >>>> I think my relatives just did not know their family very well. I >>>> recently >>>> find in my father's mother's line (Moore) is her aunt was member of >>>> Dalton >>>> Gang , according to Emmett Dalton's book about the hard cases. Emmett >>>> gives >>>> her as Eugenia Moore , .. I have some letters and I think one from >>>> Eugenia >>>> from I.T. to her family (my father's grandmother) here in MO. >>>> I think it is good that we do not (R.I.P.) let them be forgotten.>> >>>> >>>> Richard, that is so true and I think that's what keeps it interesting! >>>> Is >>>> there anything about Emmett Starr in Dalton's book? I ran across >>>> something on some Creek testimony in Okmulgee, OK IT last week and I >>>> keep >>>> wanting to think he was a known western character. Come to think of >>>> it, >>>> I >>>> guess I could just google that name. Anyway, I do agree >>>> wholeheartedly >>>> with you about the skeletons out of the closet. I think because of >>>> internet research and the world seeming to be so much smaller nowadays, >>>> the later generations are not so hung up on proving how prestigious and >>>> important their ancestors were and are accepting the facts, good or >>>> bad, >>>> and this has in turn made us all much more tolerant........at least I >>>> like >>>> to think so :-) >>>> Regards, >>>> Evelyn >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/05/2008 10:09:32
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories
    2. Sam Gipson

    3. Well, the contract was voided because of complications in the agreement. It has not been started as of yet. Expected to begin in Sept., 2008. Possible locations: 3 story building to overlook the Arkansas River. #2. A block or two from Judge Parker's, famous gallows is located. Thanks, Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "csmoke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories > When will the Marshall museum be finished? > > Richard B. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Gipson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:12 AM > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories > > >> Another event has come to Ft. Smith, Arkansas. >> The US Marshall's Museum is being built there. >> Would be a wonderful place to visit and the town also. >> >> Thanks, Sam >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "csmoke" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:56 AM >> Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories >> >> >>> Evelyn, >>> Emmett Dalton's book "Beyond the Law" is a self biography of the >>> "gang"... >>> sort of a who / why/ how. He does not mention Emmett Starr that I >>> recall. >>> (Dr.) Emmett Strarr , of course is noted for his book(s) on History of >>> the >>> Cherokee , written about 1914 (?) and later published, The Notes of Dr. >>> Emmett Starr. If you seek out Starr's book on the Cherokees, look for >>> the >>> later republished version "indexed" by Dorothy "Tincup" Mauldin. First >>> published not indexed!! >>> >>> Some of the Daltons (Frank) (& couple others) were U.S. Marshalls from >>> the >>> court in Ft. Smith, AR. There were Starr "Boys" outlaw(s) (& Belle >>> Starr). >>> I think I recall that the outlaw Starrs were half breed Cherokees, but >>> do >>> not take that to the bank :o) There are online court cases for Ft. >>> Smith, >>> AR. I once visited the court there and they have a (reconstucted ??) >>> gallows for hanging. >>> >>> Richard B. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Evelyn S. Leslie" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:29 PM >>> Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Family stories >>> >>> >>>> Richard wrote: << The "skeletons" have really came out of the closet >>>> with >>>> this genealogy business, >>>> I think my relatives just did not know their family very well. I >>>> recently >>>> find in my father's mother's line (Moore) is her aunt was member of >>>> Dalton >>>> Gang , according to Emmett Dalton's book about the hard cases. Emmett >>>> gives >>>> her as Eugenia Moore , .. I have some letters and I think one from >>>> Eugenia >>>> from I.T. to her family (my father's grandmother) here in MO. >>>> I think it is good that we do not (R.I.P.) let them be forgotten.>> >>>> >>>> Richard, that is so true and I think that's what keeps it interesting! >>>> Is >>>> there anything about Emmett Starr in Dalton's book? I ran across >>>> something on some Creek testimony in Okmulgee, OK IT last week and I >>>> keep >>>> wanting to think he was a known western character. Come to think of >>>> it, >>>> I >>>> guess I could just google that name. Anyway, I do agree >>>> wholeheartedly >>>> with you about the skeletons out of the closet. I think because of >>>> internet research and the world seeming to be so much smaller nowadays, >>>> the later generations are not so hung up on proving how prestigious and >>>> important their ancestors were and are accepting the facts, good or >>>> bad, >>>> and this has in turn made us all much more tolerant........at least I >>>> like >>>> to think so :-) >>>> Regards, >>>> Evelyn >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/05/2008 10:14:56