Muskogee People, I found the following website which lists 3 Muskogee language tools. I haven't bought them so I can't say how good they are. Also available are several other Southern Indian languages--Choctaw, Chickasaw, Caddo. www.nativelanguages.com The winter issue of "American Archaeology" has two articles of interest for Southeastern Indian descendants and researchers, I believe. "Evidence of de Soto Found in South Georgia" states that a silver pendant from de Soto's time was found along the lower Ocmulgee River in south central Georgia. It was found in situ in undisturbed deposits at an Indian village site dated to the 1500s. "Prior to the discovery, there was no concrete evidence in Georgia of de Soto's path from the Florida panhandle to NC, and many scholars expected his path to veer farther northwest, toward Macon...This brings a new degree of precision to the de Soto story...because it was at that point that the New World changed, both for natives and for the Spanish." The article "Proof of a Pre-Clovis People?" is about an Oregon cave dig that, in the scientists' data, dates the artifacts to pre-Clovis people, They believe that humans were here several thousand years earlier than the stated Clovis 12,000+ years for human occupation on this continent. "Clovis First" has been the standard timeframe for about 70 years, and been dogmatically followed. "The new dates also suggest that people may not have arrived in North America from Asia by way of the Bering Strait...One possibility is that the first Americans came down the Pacific Coast and then quickly spread across the continent." Just something to read about and think on. Merry Christmas! Carolyn Funderburk On 11/29/09, creek-southeast-request@rootsweb.com <creek-southeast-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Many thanks for Wedding ideas (Barbara) > 2. Re: Sizemore/Bailey (MS - Everett, Kim) > 3. Re: Sizemore/Bailey (Tim Timothy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:29:38 -0600 > From: "Barbara" <barbara@barbarakeel.com> > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Many thanks for Wedding ideas > To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <2261B7C89C0648F5A4684E238B2AA6E9@MoMoPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I just wanted to thank all of you for sending us some great ideas for my > daughter's wedding. She and I are going over the list now. Thanks again. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:03:55 -0600 > From: "MS - Everett, Kim" <keverett@ossdms.org> > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Sizemore/Bailey > To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <F75AFCA555793E45B947512D138A65D5642278@ossdex1.ossdms.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Have any of you any info on either Elise Moniac or Alexandria Sizemore? > These are the names my MIL is trying to research. She gave me the names at > Thanksgiving and said that they were Nannie M. Dunn's grandmothers. I told > her about the discrepancy between the Nancy (Nannie) and Mary.... she said > she was unsure. All of her info showed her listed as Nannie or Nancy. We > can find a Nannie Dunn in the Annex book of the Dawes roll, but according to > Poarch, we need more info on her. Oh, Tim, did you find out anything while > there? > Thanks, > Kim > > ________________________________ > > From: creek-southeast-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of > esleslie@bellsouth.net > Sent: Tue 11/24/2009 7:34 AM > To: creek-southeast@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Sizemore/Bailey > > > > I have not researched Taylors in depth, so I can't really be of any > additional help on Kim's Taylors and Dunns. I know this is not Tim's line > and I always appreciate his willingness to help others with their research, > but I'd like to get the Sizemore/Bailey thing straight for him: > > George Washington Taylor did marry Mary Matilda Colbert. Mary Matilda > Colbert was the daughter of William Colbert and Celia Sizemore. Celia > Sizemore was the daughter of Arthur Sizemore and Mary "Polly" Bailey. Mary > "Polly" Bailey's father was Richard Bailey, an English trader, and her > mother was Mary, a fullblood Creek of the Wind Clan, in Autosse. We don't > know the name of Mary "Polly" Bailey's Indian father. Mary "Polly" Bailey > Sizemore's siblings were Capt. Dixon Bailey (who commanded the halfblood > regiment at Fort Mims,) James Bailey, Margaret "Peggy" Bailey, and Elizabeth > Fletcher. > > William Sizemore "the Planter" was the son of Mary "Polly" Bailey Sizemore > and Arthur Sizemore. He married Lucretia Moniac. Somewhere along the time > of the Docket payments, the name "William" Arthur Sizemore started appearing > on family sheets of those applying for the payments. I am not saying his > full name was not William Arthur Sizemore, but I will say that it never > appeared on any of the early records where he is always recorded as simply > Arthur Sizemore (except for a couple of Spanish records where it is recorded > Arturo.) > > Regards to all, > Evelyn > > > > Remember Paton married Mary E. Dunn. Payton's daddy was George Washington > Taylor who married Mary Matilda Colbert. I don't have any more on Gorge. > But Mary MATILDA Colbert's daddy was William Colbert and her mother was > Celia Sizemore. No more on William Colbert. Celia Sizemore's daddy was > Arthur Sizemore b. abt 1765 who married Mary Polly Bailey b. abt 1770. No > more on Arthur. Mary Polly Bailey's dad was Richard Bailey and mom was Mary > Polly Durant of the Wind Clan. Mary Polly was first married to Richard or > his name was Dixon Bailey and after his death she married William Sizemore. > I believe Mary Polly Durant was the grand daughter of the Chief of the Wind > Clan....think that is the way the story goes. > > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:28:41 -0500 > From: "Tim Timothy" <gonegolfingsc@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Sizemore/Bailey > To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <7271F869EC604D33B512F9977151259E@TimTimothyPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I was unable to do any ancestor hunting other than covered the Popular > Springs Cemetery again....and found the Timothy....that would be Tom and > Emeline Timothy's home place grounds. Clyde Timothy came from my daddy's > brother, Jesse Timothy. > Tim Timothy > AKA: Fekhv'mke Ya'hv Tv'stvnvk'ke > (Bold Wolf Warrior) Lower Muskogee Creek > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MS - Everett, Kim" <keverett@ossdms.org> > To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 3:03 PM > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Sizemore/Bailey > > >> Have any of you any info on either Elise Moniac or Alexandria Sizemore? >> These are the names my MIL is trying to research. She gave me the names at >> >> Thanksgiving and said that they were Nannie M. Dunn's grandmothers. I told >> >> her about the discrepancy between the Nancy (Nannie) and Mary.... she said >> >> she was unsure. All of her info showed her listed as Nannie or Nancy. We >> can find a Nannie Dunn in the Annex book of the Dawes roll, but according >> to Poarch, we need more info on her. Oh, Tim, did you find out anything >> while there? >> Thanks, >> Kim >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: creek-southeast-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of >> esleslie@bellsouth.net >> Sent: Tue 11/24/2009 7:34 AM >> To: creek-southeast@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Sizemore/Bailey >> >> >> >> I have not researched Taylors in depth, so I can't really be of any >> additional help on Kim's Taylors and Dunns. I know this is not Tim's line >> >> and I always appreciate his willingness to help others with their >> research, but I'd like to get the Sizemore/Bailey thing straight for him: >> >> George Washington Taylor did marry Mary Matilda Colbert. Mary Matilda >> Colbert was the daughter of William Colbert and Celia Sizemore. Celia >> Sizemore was the daughter of Arthur Sizemore and Mary "Polly" Bailey. >> Mary "Polly" Bailey's father was Richard Bailey, an English trader, and >> her mother was Mary, a fullblood Creek of the Wind Clan, in Autosse. We >> don't know the name of Mary "Polly" Bailey's Indian father. Mary "Polly" >> Bailey Sizemore's siblings were Capt. Dixon Bailey (who commanded the >> halfblood regiment at Fort Mims,) James Bailey, Margaret "Peggy" Bailey, >> and Elizabeth Fletcher. >> >> William Sizemore "the Planter" was the son of Mary "Polly" Bailey Sizemore >> >> and Arthur Sizemore. He married Lucretia Moniac. Somewhere along the >> time of the Docket payments, the name "William" Arthur Sizemore started >> appearing on family sheets of those applying for the payments. I am not >> saying his full name was not William Arthur Sizemore, but I will say that >> it never appeared on any of the early records where he is always recorded >> as simply Arthur Sizemore (except for a couple of Spanish records where it >> >> is recorded Arturo.) >> >> Regards to all, >> Evelyn >> >> >> >> Remember Paton married Mary E. Dunn. Payton's daddy was George Washington >> Taylor who married Mary Matilda Colbert. I don't have any more on Gorge. >> But Mary MATILDA Colbert's daddy was William Colbert and her mother was >> Celia Sizemore. No more on William Colbert. Celia Sizemore's daddy was >> Arthur Sizemore b. abt 1765 who married Mary Polly Bailey b. abt 1770. >> No >> more on Arthur. Mary Polly Bailey's dad was Richard Bailey and mom was >> Mary >> Polly Durant of the Wind Clan. Mary Polly was first married to Richard or >> his name was Dixon Bailey and after his death she married William >> Sizemore. >> I believe Mary Polly Durant was the grand daughter of the Chief of the >> Wind >> Clan....think that is the way the story goes. >> >> Notes on the Creek Indians >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm >> >> Early Creek History >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ >> >> Migration Legend of the Creek Indians >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> Notes on the Creek Indians >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm >> >> Early Creek History >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ >> >> Migration Legend of the Creek Indians >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CREEK-SOUTHEAST list administrator, send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the CREEK-SOUTHEAST mailing list, send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CREEK-SOUTHEAST Digest, Vol 4, Issue 243 > *********************************************** >