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    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Campbell, Beason, McKie
    2. Richard White
    3. Scottish names can be subject to some widely varying spellings You might look into the history & genealogy of the William G. Mackey family in Wilkinson County, Georgia. The story, part of which was put down as "legend" in a Wilkinson County history book, is that Mackey was an Indian trader at Old Oconee Town who stayed on after the frontier passed through the area. I'm pretty sure that Old Oconee Town and the sites of Ft. Wilkinson, Ft. Fidus, Rock Landing, etc., all ended up in Baldwin County... but literally not much more than a stone's throw from the boundary with Wilkinson County. Mackey's wife is known to history such as it is, as "Hoppoi Miccoy". I can make no sense of that... Hopoie Micco was a Creek chief. Presumably there was some familial relationship between Hopoie Micco and Mackey's wife... but you are dealing with cross-cultural exchange of information there, which is murky to say the very least... and in the past almost two centuries a lot more effort has probably gone into trying to ignore and forget the facts than to remember and preserve them. The bits and snippets that I have don't make much of a coherent picture, nor do I have any clear, documented evidence for the earliest 3 generations... but their daughter Nancy Mackey was supposedly one of my 3-great grandmothers. The place to look for information on this family, is Wilkinson County, Georgia. This William G. Mackey was supposedly from Virginia. A lot of what now passes as documented fact, though, is nothing but scattered random fragments of information. I'm going to paste part of something I copied some time back from some e-mail or web source that I failed to document properly. It's not an answer, but a question. But I think that the nature of some of the specifics mentioned in it may very enlightening as to the nature of the kinds of problems that you are facing. This could very well be a mention of the same William Mackey... or not! <G> If you ever figure anything out... please let me know. <G> Richard White Tallahassee, Florida > Thomas MACKEY PA-NC-GA ca 1800 > > Posted by Kevin White > <kevinjwhite@yahoo.com> on Wed, 07 Jul 1999 > > Surname: MACKEY > > Any one with any information on this family group: > > In the cemetery of Old Hebron Presbyterian Church near Commerce, GA is > a marker to the memory of Samuel Mackie > 1761-Dec. 5 , 1845 and a marker for Thomas McKie. > The stone for Thomas McKie reads: > "Died ca. 1797, Father of JOHN McKIE, WILLIAM McKIE, SAMUEL McKIE, > RACHEL BREXEY STRICKLAND, > MARTHA FLEMING, MARY HEMPHILL, ROSANNAH TEMPLETON , A Revolutionary > War Patriot from Burke Co., > NC to Elbert Co, Ga., Erected in 1973." > > Information taken from Walter Scott McCleskey's 1997 version of The > McCleskey Family in Georgia. (Thanks to Bob Harwell). > > Previous researchers have said that three Mackey (McKie, McKey) > brothers immigrated around 1751, first settling in Chester Co PA, then > moving to SC about 1767, before > moving to Burke Co (now McDowell Co NC) about the start of the > Revolution. These NC Mackeys are all believed to be descendants of > John or Thomas Mackey, two of the > immigrant brothers. Thomas was said to have died in "SC". I wonder if > this might be the same Thomas. > > Anyone have any information on Thomas or his family? > > Thanks. Randall Baker wrote: >I am interested in knowing of any Creek families with >some connection to the Campbell, Beason or >McKie(McKee, McKay) families. All of these families >lived in Alabama prior to 1840. >These were the family lines on my maternal >grandmother's side of the family and it has always >been accepted in my family that my grandmother had >Native American ancestry. My grandmother didn't really >know much about her family, though, so we never knew >any kind of details. >Given the geographic location of her ancestors, I've >decided to see if there was possibly a Creek >connection. >Any help would be much appreciated. > >Thanks, >Randall Baker >

    06/09/2003 06:58:12
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Campbell, Beason, McKie
    2. ronnie&marie
    3. Hello Richard & Randall, The courthouse in Irwinton, Wilkinson Co., Ga. burned 4 or 5 times throughout the years so many records were lost. I began my research based on a sheet of paper written by a deceased relative who went to the courthouse. In the early 60's Brook's health had already declined too much to have made the trip to Irwinton so I know this info was written earlier. His wife is now 94 and her memory is still pretty good but she couldn't remember anymore details. Since I still haven't figured out jpeg etc. to get my scanner to copy this I will type it out. Early Ancestry of Otto Etheridge Sr. Early English and Indian History taken from the Census Bureaus of Indian Affairs show that in 1741 William G. Mackey and family came to America from Scotland and settled 2 1/2 miles east of what is now Toombsboro, Ga. on Indian land. They are buried 2 miles east of Toombsboro in Mackey Cemetary. A son ,W.G. Mackey was married to Hop'EE Micah, a daughter of Indian chief Hopie Micah a daughter Hopey Mackey married Merret L. Etheridge who came from Wales to America when 14 years of age. children of Merrett & Hopey Etheridge Merrett E. Etheridge wife, Lucy Kingery Twins Tabitha- married Archibald Hooks Demoris- married John K. Wheeler Lucious Flournoy Etheridge-1834-1908 married Winnie Branan, sister of his 1st wife Elizabeth Ann. ________________________________________________________ Make of this what you will. I've gone to the courthouse but so many records were destroyed that there's not much information to find. However in the land office records the map shows a cemetary at the right place to be the Mackey cemetary and also has labeled an Indian burial ground between the next cemetary (Stephen's) and the town of Toombsboro. I talked to someone who has been to the cemetary and he said that there are no markers and no one knew who was buried there. If the information I have is correct that would make the Mackey's the first settlers of Toombsboro. William G. Mackeys occupation was Indian trader. Marie Mullis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard White" <rw@pone.com> To: <CREEK-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Campbell, Beason, McKie > Scottish names can be subject to some widely varying spellings You > might look into the history & genealogy of the William G. Mackey family > in Wilkinson County, Georgia. The story, part of which was put down as > "legend" in a Wilkinson County history book, is that Mackey was an > Indian trader at Old Oconee Town who stayed on after the frontier passed > through the area. I'm pretty sure that Old Oconee Town and the sites of > Ft. Wilkinson, Ft. Fidus, Rock Landing, etc., all ended up in Baldwin > County... but literally not much more than a stone's throw from the > boundary with Wilkinson County. Mackey's wife is known to history such > as it is, as "Hoppoi Miccoy". I can make no sense of that... Hopoie > Micco was a Creek chief. Presumably there was some familial > relationship between Hopoie Micco and Mackey's wife... but you are > dealing with cross-cultural exchange of information there, which is > murky to say the very least... and in the past almost two centuries a > lot more effort has probably gone into trying to ignore and forget the > facts than to remember and preserve them. The bits and snippets that I > have don't make much of a coherent picture, nor do I have any clear, > documented evidence for the earliest 3 generations... but their daughter > Nancy Mackey was supposedly one of my 3-great grandmothers. The place > to look for information on this family, is Wilkinson County, Georgia. > > This William G. Mackey was supposedly from Virginia. A lot of what now > passes as documented fact, though, is nothing but scattered random > fragments of information. I'm going to paste part of something I copied > some time back from some e-mail or web source that I failed to document > properly. It's not an answer, but a question. But I think that the > nature of some of the specifics mentioned in it may very enlightening as > to the nature of the kinds of problems that you are facing. This could > very well be a mention of the same William Mackey... or not! <G> > > If you ever figure anything out... please let me know. <G> > > Richard White > Tallahassee, Florida > > > Thomas MACKEY PA-NC-GA ca 1800 > > > > Posted by Kevin White > > <kevinjwhite@yahoo.com> on Wed, 07 Jul 1999 > > > > Surname: MACKEY > > > > Any one with any information on this family group: > > > > In the cemetery of Old Hebron Presbyterian Church near Commerce, GA is > > a marker to the memory of Samuel Mackie > > 1761-Dec. 5 , 1845 and a marker for Thomas McKie. > > The stone for Thomas McKie reads: > > "Died ca. 1797, Father of JOHN McKIE, WILLIAM McKIE, SAMUEL McKIE, > > RACHEL BREXEY STRICKLAND, > > MARTHA FLEMING, MARY HEMPHILL, ROSANNAH TEMPLETON , A Revolutionary > > War Patriot from Burke Co., > > NC to Elbert Co, Ga., Erected in 1973." > > > > Information taken from Walter Scott McCleskey's 1997 version of The > > McCleskey Family in Georgia. (Thanks to Bob Harwell). > > > > Previous researchers have said that three Mackey (McKie, McKey) > > brothers immigrated around 1751, first settling in Chester Co PA, then > > moving to SC about 1767, before > > moving to Burke Co (now McDowell Co NC) about the start of the > > Revolution. These NC Mackeys are all believed to be descendants of > > John or Thomas Mackey, two of the > > immigrant brothers. Thomas was said to have died in "SC". I wonder if > > this might be the same Thomas. > > > > Anyone have any information on Thomas or his family? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Randall Baker wrote: > > >I am interested in knowing of any Creek families with > >some connection to the Campbell, Beason or > >McKie(McKee, McKay) families. All of these families > >lived in Alabama prior to 1840. > >These were the family lines on my maternal > >grandmother's side of the family and it has always > >been accepted in my family that my grandmother had > >Native American ancestry. My grandmother didn't really > >know much about her family, though, so we never knew > >any kind of details. > >Given the geographic location of her ancestors, I've > >decided to see if there was possibly a Creek > >connection. > >Any help would be much appreciated. > > > >Thanks, > >Randall Baker > > >

    06/12/2003 04:44:36