This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JYKing Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/150.156.538.1.7.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Geri, Y-DNA testing has *proven* Rhoda's sons were *not fathered by a Red Bird*. See my 21 Dec 2004 posting in this thread. The male descendants of George "All" of KY are a match to other Sizemore lines, which shows this *male American Indian ancestry* did *not* start with his birth in the 1750s, but most likely goes back to early 1600s VA. http://www.sizemorednaproject.com/history_surname.html Additionally, the results for two direct line descendants of Arthur *prove* he does *not* have the same male genetic ancestry as the other Sizemores, and there is absolutely nothing in the genealogical records that tie him to those lines either. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/SIZEMORE_DNA/default.aspx Click on the Y-DNA Results button on the left side of the page. As for the Dickey Diaries, through DNA results we have been able to *disprove* a lot of this Sizemore misinformation, as I stated above. In addition, mtDNA results from direct line female descendants of Agnes (Shepherd) Sizemore show there is *no* female American Indian ancestry in her line. http://www.sizemorednaproject.com/mtDNAindex.html Y-DNA results have also *proven* the Sizemore surname was *not* changed from the surname Williams, as stated in the diary. Hope this helps to clear up some things for you, Joy Admin. of the Sizemore DNA project http://www.sizemorednaproject.com/index.html Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.