Richard, Are you Yuchi as your email name implies? Do you know the book "The Secret" by Joseph P. Mahan? I believe it is out of print. It's so hard to find information about this little-known tribe. Isn't the Yuchi stompgrounds in Oklahoma at Kelleyville? Were/are they allied with the Creeks in Oklahoma after the removal? I've read that before the removal that the Creeks (in Alabama) took in the Yuchis, along with other struggling remnant groups. I am from Oxford, Alabama, near the Coosa/Koosee River, and have been studying Indian history/genealogy for about 10 years. Years ago in Alabama, next to nothing was taught in schools about Indians or their cultures, so I've had to learn on my own. Plus, there was very little talk in families about Indian ancestry or history. My husband Gene's ancestors lived in Jones, Jasper and Bulloch Counties, Georgia in the l800s. His cousin in Gray, GA lives right across from the Hitchiti Forest Experimental Area--or some such name--very close to the Ocmulgee River. BTW, I have that Creek knot on the back of my head, as do my two sons. I have heard it called the "Anatolian bump or knot." Gene, who appears to have more Indian blood than me (if I have any), does not have this knot. He and his family however, have the epicanthic eyefolds commonly found among Mongoloid people, along with several other traits. Go figure. I imagine that many/most Southerners have some Indian background due to the frequent and early mixing of peoples from the late l500s onward, especially until the main removal out West in l838-l839. Thanks so much for your helpful info. I enjoy reading everything you post. Carolyn Funderburk bamagal50@ec.rr.com