In a message dated 1/30/2005 9:01:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, CREEK-SOUTHEAST-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Content-Type: text/plain Judy, Before you get your ulcers stirred up you need to remember what genecology is all about. Finding your family no matter how insulted you may be by what you find. Surname searches may be of no value at all if you recall, that surname only started being used around the 11th or 12th century. with the need to search for peoples that have similar surname i.e. Duke, Dukes.Duc none of which may be related to the other. Info about physical inherited features may be the only way. Since you are Web mom for the Creek Southeast list I would think the list members would take any help they can get. I am grateful to Carolyn Funderburk <bamagal50@ec.rr.com for shearing he info with the rest of us who are look for the light of the end of the tunnel. I think you owe her an apology and a word of thanks for her contribution. Thanks for your time , Duke