You might want to try this page for some additional reading on the Westo Indians, http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/allophylic_languages.htm This page on the Yuch also contains Westo history http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/uchean/yuchihist.htm Judy On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM, <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> wrote: > The Westo Indians were associated with massive slave raids into the > Carolinas and Georgia during the late 1600s. They were armed by the Colony > of > Virginia and sold their slaves to Virginia and Charleston Slave markets. > Initially, South Carolina planters did business with them also, but began > to > fear them after they settled on the Savannah River near modern day > Augusta. > A combined army of Shawnee (Savano) Indians and Carolina militia gave > them a thrashing around 1680. I have French map that shows a Westo > village in > Georgia, southeast of modern day Macon around 1730. > > The Westo name probably was derived from the Hitchiti-Creek term wes-te, > which means "people with long, unkempt hair." Virginia historians feel > that > the Westos were a band of Rickohocken Indians, since it is a documented > fact that the Colony of Virginia had a long term contract with the > Rickohockens to obtain Native American slaves from the Lower Southeast. > > Richard T. > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Native American Genealogy http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/ AccessGenealogy http://www.accessgenealogy.com/

Are you related to Hatai Huguley ( I may have the spelling of his first name wrong )? Huguley road in Crawford is named after him. That area has an Opelika address now.>> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/808.1.1.2.2.2/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> yes peewee jack. Everyone seems to be ignoring my emails. Do you know any >> huguley's, Huguly's the live in Opelika or that use to live there? >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you >> would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link >> above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> Notes on the Creek Indians >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm >> >> Early Creek History >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ >> >> Migration Legend of the Creek Indians >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Last night in some reading, I came across a one paragraph reference to a group of Native peoples in the 1600-1700s in the Carolinas called the Westos. I have never heard of them before. It sounded like they were a group to be recond with in those days. Do any of them remanin today?   Kindest Regards, Glenn D. Faulk Contemporary Equine San Antonio, Texas (210) 416-7043

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shilohdream Surnames: Huguley, Hugley, Hughley, Huguly Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/808.1.1.2.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: yes peewee jack. Everyone seems to be ignoring my emails. Do you know any huguley's, Huguly's the live in Opelika or that use to live there? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: melody736 Surnames: Huguley, Hugley, Hughley, Huguly Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/808.1.1.1.1.2.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can you please show the photo of her in her indian outfit? I would love to see it. Are you a huguley descendent? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I'm not ignoring them.....don't know any of the names you mentioned and can't help or contribute...sorry. Tim T ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <CREEK-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Mulattoes in Alabama,were they Creek Indians ? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: shilohdream > Surnames: Huguley, Hugley, Hughley, Huguly > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/808.1.1.2.2.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > yes peewee jack. Everyone seems to be ignoring my emails. Do you know any > huguley's, Huguly's the live in Opelika or that use to live there? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are a lot of Huguleys here in Opelika. Do you have any first names, any cemeteries, any dates? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Timothy" <gonegolfingsc@bellsouth.net> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:25 PM To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Mulattoes in Alabama,were they Creek Indians ? > I'm not ignoring them.....don't know any of the names you mentioned and > can't help or contribute...sorry. Tim T > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > To: <CREEK-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:40 PM > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Mulattoes in Alabama,were they Creek > Indians > ? > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: shilohdream >> Surnames: Huguley, Hugley, Hughley, Huguly >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/808.1.1.2.2.2/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> yes peewee jack. Everyone seems to be ignoring my emails. Do you know any >> huguley's, Huguly's the live in Opelika or that use to live there? >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you >> would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link >> above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> Notes on the Creek Indians >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm >> >> Early Creek History >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ >> >> Migration Legend of the Creek Indians >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.422 / Virus Database: 270.14.22/2446 - Release Date: 10/19/09 > 14:33:00 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeenx1 Surnames: Hancock, Hancox Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3050.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Definitely! :) I have heard so many different stories and am always curious to unravel them. I have heard that they were not Native Indians, but had been placed on a Indian roll, and that a gg-grandfather? that would trade roots and charms was sent on the Trail of Tears, but was quickly sent back home. My mom did also hear about the name change to Griffin, and that John T's mother was from Germany or Ukraine, (so many stories!)I put census data that I was sure about in my tree, maybe this will help. :) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Linda_Houssiere Surnames: Durant Rosenstein Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/728.2.3.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Where are you located. I am interested in the Durant family that was near Pensacola, Florida. Linda Durant Houssiere Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: notsew2 Surnames: Hancock Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3050.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The closest I have is a surename of Hancock. I am connected to the Hancocks out of Columbus area. catherine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: notsew2 Surnames: Hancock Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3050.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hello again ... this is Catherine Weston! Small world. One of my first cousins was Mary Lois Hancock, Tallessee, Al, and passed this info on to Bert and he to me!!! Mary Lois lived in the house with her Mom, Dad, younger brother and a unmarried aunt ... Zera. This aunt told Mary Lois that her great gfather that was Indian. Seems ML believed this so much that she was really searching for this man when she died/04 or 05! Info from aunt.... this was a man that changed his name to Griffin. Have found a Griffin Hancock in GA though. Wheather he kept the Hancock ... she didn't mention. But this aunt had told her his name was "walking stick". I have found a few walking stick names but I do not have any other name with any of these walking stick's!!! By chance has your Mom ever heard about anything like this? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ELLinSpain Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3050.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: there are quite a few "walking Stick's" listed but each has a 1st name i.e. Isaac Walking Stick etc - do you have any dates? other family? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Richard, Could you send us a link to the article on the Polynesian Dna? ----- Original Message ----- From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Kennewick Man > Is the European nat. am., the Kinnewick man? > > > Again, I am not an anthropologist, but an architect-planner, who > specializes in historic & prehistoric architecture & town planning. Keep > in mind > that at least 95% of the indigenous people of the Southeast were killed > off > by European plagues, slavery and military actions. Many ethnic groups > were > wiped out completely. Who knows what genetic traits were also wiped out > at that time? > >>From what I read, Kenniwick man was probably related to the Ainu > Aborigines of Japan. Makes sense. If the Ainu's ancestors could sail > from Korea > or China to the Japanese Islands, they certainly could island hop around > the > Pacific Rim to North America. > > Also, the oldest skeletons being found in Mexico are Polynesians. > There > was an ethnic group living in Baha California, whose traditions and > physical features were different than the American Indians in the main > part of > Mexico. They quickly died off due to Spanish induced diseases. > > I understand that it is quite common for people in Georgia, South Carolina > and Florida of Creek descent to have a trace of Polynesian DNA. This is > probably because their ancestors came from Mexico. Were the original > Muskogeans in Mexico of mixed Polynesian-AmerInd descent? Did they > leave > Mexico because they were ethnically different than the majority? . . . > but > again, no one really knows for sure at this time. > > Richard T. > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Is the European nat. am., the Kinnewick man? Again, I am not an anthropologist, but an architect-planner, who specializes in historic & prehistoric architecture & town planning. Keep in mind that at least 95% of the indigenous people of the Southeast were killed off by European plagues, slavery and military actions. Many ethnic groups were wiped out completely. Who knows what genetic traits were also wiped out at that time? >From what I read, Kenniwick man was probably related to the Ainu Aborigines of Japan. Makes sense. If the Ainu's ancestors could sail from Korea or China to the Japanese Islands, they certainly could island hop around the Pacific Rim to North America. Also, the oldest skeletons being found in Mexico are Polynesians. There was an ethnic group living in Baha California, whose traditions and physical features were different than the American Indians in the main part of Mexico. They quickly died off due to Spanish induced diseases. I understand that it is quite common for people in Georgia, South Carolina and Florida of Creek descent to have a trace of Polynesian DNA. This is probably because their ancestors came from Mexico. Were the original Muskogeans in Mexico of mixed Polynesian-AmerInd descent? Did they leave Mexico because they were ethnically different than the majority? . . . but again, no one really knows for sure at this time. Richard T.

I admit I am still obsessed with my mother's given name, Ilo. It is usually associated/allied with surnames/women of Celtic heritage, i.e. Campbell. However, she was told it was a name from "the Islands". Her European ancestors are recorded in the Appalachians from after the Revolutionary War. But there is always the strong family history of many Native American ancestors there, and the stories do NOT claim it to be Cherokee.... Although there are Melungion settlements near there, there are not any people claiming or knowing of Melungion ancestry in that area. Many people in that area do have a somewhat distinctive appearance. Some say they appear "Indian", some Spanish, some say exotic. There is preported to be a relative new DNA type test which indicates people of Native American descent as Asian. That is if a person knows their Native American ancestor and takes the test, it shows up as Asian. Dorothy in N. FL.

Is the European nat. am., the Kinnewick man? In a message dated 10/12/2009 2:19:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ssokol@ix.netcom.com writes: Richard, >From what I read somewhere recently, the first humans here were paleo-indians that bear no relationship to the more recent "native Americans". From the few relics found, it is thought that the ice age may have caught them. Another source said there were two different "native Americans", with the second group coming from Europe long before any known journeys. They did not survive. You touched something similar a few years back but I am not sure the conclusion. It was about the interaction of "Central American natives" and "North American natives". The physical characteristics are very different, yet they must have overlapped somewhere near the Rio Grande Valley So many questions and so few answers. At 12:51 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >What is your take on there being a central "mother tribe or nation" that >most or all other tribes in North America came out of.....pre and post Ice >Age? >----- Original Message ----- >From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> >To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:26 AM >Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Locations of Creek and Cherokee territory >inGeorgia > > > > >From reading postings in the past, it has become obvious to me that most > > people do not have a clue where the Creeks and Cherokees actually lived in > > Georgia, and when they lived there. This assessment also applies to most > > state and federal bureaucrats, who disseminate information on the region's > > Native American heritage . . . the only exception being some professional > > archaeologists. They must be VERY frustrated people! > > > > The general public seems to think that any Native American artifact found > > north of Atlanta was made by a Cherokee, and that the Creeks were a > > single ethnic group that occupied the southern 2/3 of the state. Thus, if > > one > > has Native American roots north of Atlanta, it is typical that people > > assume that they were "a Cherokee princess." Guess, there were no male > > Cherokees - chuckle. A lot of people south of Atlanta also assume that > > their N > > A ancestor was Cherokee, because there are so many inaccurate maps > > floating > > around the world of tourist promotion. Others assume that the Creeks > > were just one ethnic group, speaking one language. > > > > Cherokees never "legally" occupied any of Georgia east of the > > Chattahoochee > > River - even in the mountains, and by the time they got to Georgia, > > they were using muskets exclusively. Even by the 1750s, they were > > pretty > > much reliant on firearms. A delegation of Cherokee chiefs and head > > warriors > > went to London to meet the king. An English archery club challenged them > > to > > a contest of archery skills. The Cherokees were so out of practice at > > shooting bows, that they were totally stomped. > > > > Among other articles, the upcoming issue of the "People of One Fire" > > newsletter will contain Colonial Period maps that show how rapidly the > > ethnic > > patterns of the Lower Southeast changed during the 1600s and 1700s. They > > will surprise you. You will never trust another tourist brochure! > > <chuckle> > > > > Richard T, > > > > > > Notes on the Creek Indians > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > > > Early Creek History > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >Notes on the Creek Indians >http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > >Early Creek History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > >Migration Legend of the Creek Indians >http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notes on the Creek Indians http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm Early Creek History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ Migration Legend of the Creek Indians http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What did the Hitchiti's look like? ----- Original Message ----- From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Maya connection > During the past few months, we have identified numerous Chontal Maya > words and town names in the Hichiti language that don't appear in Mvskoke. > Both Chiaha and Altamaha are Chontal Maya words. The Chontal Mayas were > the > sailors and merchants of the Mesoamerican world. They built true sailing > ships, very similar in size and construction to Viking longships. They > also > did most of the slave raiding for the Classic Period Maya. We think that > the Chontal Maya slave raids are what depopulated the portions of Georgia > below the Fall Line between 600 AD and 750 AD. Later, between 900 AD and > 1000 AD, either Chontal merchants or escaped Maya slaves returned to the > lower Southeast and set up trading stations - resulting in their mixed > heritage offspring become the hereditary elite. Chontal and Highland > Mayas and > Hitchiti's look very much alike. The Yucateca Maya looked very different > than these peoples. The Chontal appear to be the descendants of the > Olmecs. I > have found everyone of the glyphs of the Olmec syllabary in art created > in > Etowah, but nothing that remotely looks like Maya from the northern > Yucatan. > > Well, that's where we are at now! > > Richard > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good point ----- Original Message ----- From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Locations of Creek and Cherokee territoryinGeorgia > > In a message dated 10/12/2009 1:19:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > gonegolfingsc@bellsouth.net writes: > > What is your take on there being a central "mother tribe or nation" that > most or all other tribes in North America came out of.....pre and post > Ice > > Age? > > > > Well, I am not an anthropologist, but I do know that the MtDNA of Creeks > is not like that of most of the other tribes in the Eastern United > States. > Where did all that different DNA come from if everybody came from the > same > tribe? > > Richard T. > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The article I read said the paleo-Indians did not survive. Supposedly, their culture was more advanced, but they could not move fast enough because the ice age came on so fast. We both know full well that this is just a part of one more person's thesis. However, archeological evidence is usually good and there is supposedly some in unique tools they used. Potentially blows apart von Danken's theory. S At 04:25 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >I have heard that there were NA's here in the general area of what is the >USA presently and possibly further North. With the coming Ice Age from >Northward, they continued migrating South through what is now Mexico until >living was possible. Then at the time of the big melt, from South to >North, migration took place once again back to areas they came from. > >Comments? >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steve Sokol" <ssokol@ix.netcom.com> >To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:18 PM >Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Locations of Creek and Cherokee territory >inGeorgia > > > > Richard, > > > > From what I read somewhere recently, the first humans here were > > paleo-indians that bear no relationship to the more recent "native > > Americans". From the few relics found, it is thought that the ice > > age may have caught them. Another source said there were two > > different "native Americans", with the second group coming from > > Europe long before any known journeys. They did not survive. > > > > You touched something similar a few years back but I am not sure the > > conclusion. It was about the interaction of "Central American > > natives" and "North American natives". The physical characteristics > > are very different, yet they must have overlapped somewhere near the > > Rio Grande Valley > > > > So many questions and so few answers. > > > > > > At 12:51 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: > >>What is your take on there being a central "mother tribe or nation" that > >>most or all other tribes in North America came out of.....pre and post Ice > >>Age? > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> > >>To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:26 AM > >>Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Locations of Creek and Cherokee territory > >>inGeorgia > >> > >> > >> > >From reading postings in the past, it has become obvious to me that > >> > >most > >> > people do not have a clue where the Creeks and Cherokees actually lived > >> > in > >> > Georgia, and when they lived there. This assessment also applies to > >> > most > >> > state and federal bureaucrats, who disseminate information on the > >> > region's > >> > Native American heritage . . . the only exception being some > >> > professional > >> > archaeologists. They must be VERY frustrated people! > >> > > >> > The general public seems to think that any Native American artifact > >> > found > >> > north of Atlanta was made by a Cherokee, and that the Creeks were a > >> > single ethnic group that occupied the southern 2/3 of the state. Thus, > >> > if > >> > one > >> > has Native American roots north of Atlanta, it is typical that people > >> > assume that they were "a Cherokee princess." Guess, there were no > >> > male > >> > Cherokees - chuckle. A lot of people south of Atlanta also assume > >> > that > >> > their N > >> > A ancestor was Cherokee, because there are so many inaccurate maps > >> > floating > >> > around the world of tourist promotion. Others assume that the Creeks > >> > were just one ethnic group, speaking one language. > >> > > >> > Cherokees never "legally" occupied any of Georgia east of the > >> > Chattahoochee > >> > River - even in the mountains, and by the time they got to Georgia, > >> > they were using muskets exclusively. Even by the 1750s, they were > >> > pretty > >> > much reliant on firearms. A delegation of Cherokee chiefs and head > >> > warriors > >> > went to London to meet the king. An English archery club challenged > >> > them > >> > to > >> > a contest of archery skills. The Cherokees were so out of practice at > >> > shooting bows, that they were totally stomped. > >> > > >> > Among other articles, the upcoming issue of the "People of One Fire" > >> > newsletter will contain Colonial Period maps that show how rapidly the > >> > ethnic > >> > patterns of the Lower Southeast changed during the 1600s and 1700s. > >> > They > >> > will surprise you. You will never trust another tourist brochure! > >> > <chuckle> > >> > > >> > Richard T, > >> > > >> > > >> > Notes on the Creek Indians > >> > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > >> > > >> > Early Creek History > >> > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > >> > > >> > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > >> > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> > without > >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >>Notes on the Creek Indians > >>http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > >> > >>Early Creek History > >>http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > >> > >>Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > >>http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Notes on the Creek Indians > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > > > Early Creek History > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >Notes on the Creek Indians >http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > >Early Creek History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > >Migration Legend of the Creek Indians >http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 10/12/2009 4:26:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gonegolfingsc@bellsouth.net writes: I have heard that there were NA's here in the general area of what is the USA presently and possibly further North. With the coming Ice Age from Northward, they continued migrating South through what is now Mexico until living was possible. Then at the time of the big melt, from South to North, migration took place once again back to areas they came from. Comments? Apparently, the anthropologists need more hard evidence before they can make a decision on any of the theories. Richard T.