Richard, If I ever make it into the Creek Nation.. I'll marry you..just so you can make it too. You have earned the honor. YesterdayI I mailed an article on Osceola to Creek-Southeast. I know William Powell's Death date is wrong and I made a few type errors. I have a new computer and I forget to read before I sent.... That and I am now almost Blind.. I never really paid much attention to Powell as he was not the father of Osceola or Missouri (Miss Sarah) I went by memory and at age 80 , it's not always % accurate . James McQueen was the first white man accepted into the Creek Nation. Here I am 8 generations later trying to do the same thing.. . I have 3 generations... I will be leaving here with all my notes to carry on. A strange thing happened to me recently.. during the night I walked into the bathroom ..an Indian woman was looking at me thru the mirror and said"GOOD MORNING WHITE BIRD", I answered out loud " GOOD MORNING".. It was real. .. I stayed awake for the rest of the night. Ever since I have wondered if that was" my Indian name." It's a name I had never heard before. My Grandmother always said"Don't talk too much, then nobody will really know how stupid you are." I am not in the habit of talking to a mirror. Cause I know I'm not the fairest of them all. What do you think? Are my Oars out of the water? Am I missing a card from a full deck? Betty In a message dated 2/13/10 9:56:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com writes: The best people to contact on that question is the Citizenship Department of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation in Okmulgee, Oklahoma. Citizenship in the Creek Nation is determined by its laws and constitution. The opinion of one of us on the Creek-SE message board is of no consequence. Just being of Creek heritage does not mean that you are automatically a citizen of a federal recognized tribe, like the MCN. Most state-recognized Creek tribes will accept authenticated Creeks as members, but there are many more requirements for a tribe recognized by the Bureau of Indian Affairs. For example, I probably have a lot more Creek ancestry than many Muscogee-Creek citizens, but as far as I can tell, I could never be a Creek citizen myself, because I am not a direct descendant of a name on the Dawes Rolls. Good luck! Richard T. Notes on the Creek Indians http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm Early Creek History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ Migration Legend of the Creek Indians http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The best people to contact on that question is the Citizenship Department of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation in Okmulgee, Oklahoma. Citizenship in the Creek Nation is determined by its laws and constitution. The opinion of one of us on the Creek-SE message board is of no consequence. Just being of Creek heritage does not mean that you are automatically a citizen of a federal recognized tribe, like the MCN. Most state-recognized Creek tribes will accept authenticated Creeks as members, but there are many more requirements for a tribe recognized by the Bureau of Indian Affairs. For example, I probably have a lot more Creek ancestry than many Muscogee-Creek citizens, but as far as I can tell, I could never be a Creek citizen myself, because I am not a direct descendant of a name on the Dawes Rolls. Good luck! Richard T.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Neamathla Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/676.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hensci Cousin Paulette, Please email me at gpman@mail.com Mvto Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

NEED to know about membership for my grandkids. Their father is adopted, by a card carrying Creek. The "father" on his birth certificate names him as father. Does this mean my grandkids father can be a member? and therefore, them? if elgible, what do we need to apply and where do we get the application? we also have creek on our side, not proven though. thanks in advance.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JoshGen Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3061/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you checked genealogyauthor.com? They claim to have over 11,000 family and local histories. I've found a few that have helped me with my research... thought this might help. Good luck with your research! Josh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PTippers Surnames: Cow Tom,Jefferson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/676.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Grant: We are related; Cow Tom is my 4th gr.grandfather, Melinda is my 3rd gr.grandmother, James my 2nd gr.grandfather and Lizzie their daughter is my gr. grandmother, and her daughter is my grandmother her name is Elvida Sneed. I would like to get in touch with and share information. Paulette Tipper Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 777pjh777 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3060/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am seeking information on Susan Hale of Monroe County, Alabama who married Kila Williams ( may be Kiler or Kyler) I found these names on EC app # 3433 for Mary Jane Williams, who was born about 1875 in Clark County, Alabama, according to the information she gave on the application. Mary Jane Williams married Will Colbert 1863-1902 I would appreciate any information at all. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thomas Perryman (Kinache), b. 1739 was chief (married to daug of Neamathia), (his daughter Mary Perryman was mother of "Little Billy" bc. 1784 , who later became known as "Billy Bowlegs" and the father was William A. Bowles, b. 1763, (British) who married Mary around the town Perrytown (now Seminole county, Ga), then then a guy named Andrew Jackson came to town and destroyed Mikasuki town around Lake Mikasuki. This Porter info does not sound right. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tucks Family" <tucklings@msn.com> To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] CREEK-SOUTHEAST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 >I have read that Pleasant Porter, chief of the creeks was born at the old >home in the Creek Nation back in Alabama about 1818. I see that his father >was Benjamin Edward Porter of Norristown, PA; a brother of David >Rittenhouse Porter who was governor of Pennsylvania. What town is "the old >home in the Creek Nation back in Alabama in 1818"? I am curious if >Benjamin Edward Porter and Richard Taliaferro Porter living in Monroeville, >Monroe County, Alabama are related. > > Thanks, Lisa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > creek-southeast-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:creek-southeast-request@rootsweb.com> > To: creek-southeast@rootsweb.com<mailto:creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 3:01 AM > Subject: CREEK-SOUTHEAST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Blackfoot Cherokees (barbara) > 2. Jemimah Harrison Weeks > (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 08:15:58 -0600 > From: "barbara" <barbara@barbarakeel.com<mailto:barbara@barbarakeel.com>> > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Blackfoot Cherokees > To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com<mailto:creek-southeast@rootsweb.com>> > Message-ID: > <9A95808C73544D8E9565C44FDE4AB094@KrytonJr<mailto:9A95808C73544D8E9565C44FDE4AB094@KrytonJr>> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Yeah, why couldn't I have had just one ancestor from any branch of my > family > that I could document with their native heritage. sigh. I have so many > on > both sides that the grandparents told us about, the families all married > one > into the other family into the other until they all were really one big > family. I have Powells, Willis, Vinson, Canady, Hughes, Hunter, Hagans, > Satterwhite, Youngblood, and they all go back to one point with the > mother > and then that is it. Those mothers all seemed to be named Sarah, at > least > most of them. I did check out Saponitown and at one time it seems like > it > was a thriving website of information, but not much nowdays. Guess > everyone > got what they wanted and left. Sometimes, I get bitter and angry at my > ancestors for being so secretive but I remember my Grandmother and how > she > was adamant that we never tell anyone or we would be sent away and this > was > in the 50's! If only my gr granddad had not buried the Bible, we might > at > least have a portion of those answers. I just hate not solving a puzzle > and > I so wanted to be able to get my name. > I only just found out this past week that my mother was indeed my mother. > I > always believed that I was the child of one of my brothers, they were > over > 20 yrs older than me. They both loved me so much that it made sense to > me. > In my search for my gr granddaddy's truth, I found someone who knew my > family, knew of my gr granddaddy, and was able to tell me about the > 'Blackfoot' part, as well as told me that my mother came to her house > when > she was pregnant with me! Not only that, but I was named for her and her > sister, Barbara and Gail. This was something no one had ever told me. I > even asked my brother's on their deathbeds to tell me the truth about if > I > was their child and both of them told me that they wished I had been but > I > wasn't. Even then, I never believed it. Now, some total stranger has > told > me that she knew my mother when she was pregnant with me. That is a > great > closure. She is going to let me come see her and hopefully will remember > something in talking to me about my gr granddaddy. > More later in this great saga. > You take care, > Barb > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com<mailto:TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com>> > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:38 PM > To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com<mailto:creek-southeast@rootsweb.com>> > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Blackfoot Cherokees > > > Hey Barbara > > > > By Blackfoot Cherokee, I assume you mean Eastern Blackfoot or Saponi. > > Many Siouans from Virginia and North Carolina eventually took refuge > with > > the > > Cherokees. However, since the Saponi never fought a war against the > > British or Americans, there was never a treaty with them. As far as I > > know > > there were also never any official Saponi rolls maintained by the > Federal > > government. Saponi descendants are scattered all over the Midwest and > > Upper > > Southeast, but it is very difficult to prove their ancestry because of > > the > > lack of documentation. > > > > Richard T. > > Notes on the Creek Indians > > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm<http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm> > > > > Early Creek History > > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/<http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/> > > > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/<http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/> > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:50:31 -0000 > From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>" > <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Jemimah Harrison Weeks > To: > <CREEK-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:CREEK-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com>> > Message-ID: > <1265507432.530556@rootsweb.com<mailto:1265507432.530556@rootsweb.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: baileyc1971 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3059/mb.ashx<http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3059/mb.ashx> > > Message Board Post: > > Does anyone know if Jemimah Harrison was a creek indian? I dont have a > whole of information on her,and would like for someone to please help me, > I can be reached at baileyc1971@yahoo.com<mailto:baileyc1971@yahoo.com> > Thank you. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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I have read that Pleasant Porter, chief of the creeks was born at the old home in the Creek Nation back in Alabama about 1818. I see that his father was Benjamin Edward Porter of Norristown, PA; a brother of David Rittenhouse Porter who was governor of Pennsylvania. What town is "the old home in the Creek Nation back in Alabama in 1818"? I am curious if Benjamin Edward Porter and Richard Taliaferro Porter living in Monroeville, Monroe County, Alabama are related. Thanks, Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: creek-southeast-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:creek-southeast-request@rootsweb.com> To: creek-southeast@rootsweb.com<mailto:creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 3:01 AM Subject: CREEK-SOUTHEAST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Blackfoot Cherokees (barbara) 2. Jemimah Harrison Weeks (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 08:15:58 -0600 From: "barbara" <barbara@barbarakeel.com<mailto:barbara@barbarakeel.com>> Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Blackfoot Cherokees To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com<mailto:creek-southeast@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <9A95808C73544D8E9565C44FDE4AB094@KrytonJr<mailto:9A95808C73544D8E9565C44FDE4AB094@KrytonJr>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yeah, why couldn't I have had just one ancestor from any branch of my family that I could document with their native heritage. sigh. I have so many on both sides that the grandparents told us about, the families all married one into the other family into the other until they all were really one big family. I have Powells, Willis, Vinson, Canady, Hughes, Hunter, Hagans, Satterwhite, Youngblood, and they all go back to one point with the mother and then that is it. Those mothers all seemed to be named Sarah, at least most of them. I did check out Saponitown and at one time it seems like it was a thriving website of information, but not much nowdays. Guess everyone got what they wanted and left. Sometimes, I get bitter and angry at my ancestors for being so secretive but I remember my Grandmother and how she was adamant that we never tell anyone or we would be sent away and this was in the 50's! If only my gr granddad had not buried the Bible, we might at least have a portion of those answers. I just hate not solving a puzzle and I so wanted to be able to get my name. I only just found out this past week that my mother was indeed my mother. I always believed that I was the child of one of my brothers, they were over 20 yrs older than me. They both loved me so much that it made sense to me. In my search for my gr granddaddy's truth, I found someone who knew my family, knew of my gr granddaddy, and was able to tell me about the 'Blackfoot' part, as well as told me that my mother came to her house when she was pregnant with me! Not only that, but I was named for her and her sister, Barbara and Gail. This was something no one had ever told me. I even asked my brother's on their deathbeds to tell me the truth about if I was their child and both of them told me that they wished I had been but I wasn't. Even then, I never believed it. Now, some total stranger has told me that she knew my mother when she was pregnant with me. That is a great closure. She is going to let me come see her and hopefully will remember something in talking to me about my gr granddaddy. More later in this great saga. You take care, Barb -------------------------------------------------- From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com<mailto:TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com>> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:38 PM To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com<mailto:creek-southeast@rootsweb.com>> Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Blackfoot Cherokees > Hey Barbara > > By Blackfoot Cherokee, I assume you mean Eastern Blackfoot or Saponi. > Many Siouans from Virginia and North Carolina eventually took refuge with > the > Cherokees. However, since the Saponi never fought a war against the > British or Americans, there was never a treaty with them. As far as I > know > there were also never any official Saponi rolls maintained by the Federal > government. Saponi descendants are scattered all over the Midwest and > Upper > Southeast, but it is very difficult to prove their ancestry because of > the > lack of documentation. > > Richard T. > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm<http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm> > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/<http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/> > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/<http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:50:31 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Jemimah Harrison Weeks To: <CREEK-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:CREEK-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1265507432.530556@rootsweb.com<mailto:1265507432.530556@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: baileyc1971 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3059/mb.ashx<http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3059/mb.ashx> Message Board Post: Does anyone know if Jemimah Harrison was a creek indian? I dont have a whole of information on her,and would like for someone to please help me, I can be reached at baileyc1971@yahoo.com<mailto:baileyc1971@yahoo.com> Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ To contact the CREEK-SOUTHEAST list administrator, send an email to CREEK-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:CREEK-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com>. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: baileyc1971 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3059/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know if Jemimah Harrison was a creek indian? I dont have a whole of information on her,and would like for someone to please help me, I can be reached at baileyc1971@yahoo.com Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Yeah, why couldn't I have had just one ancestor from any branch of my family that I could document with their native heritage. sigh. I have so many on both sides that the grandparents told us about, the families all married one into the other family into the other until they all were really one big family. I have Powells, Willis, Vinson, Canady, Hughes, Hunter, Hagans, Satterwhite, Youngblood, and they all go back to one point with the mother and then that is it. Those mothers all seemed to be named Sarah, at least most of them. I did check out Saponitown and at one time it seems like it was a thriving website of information, but not much nowdays. Guess everyone got what they wanted and left. Sometimes, I get bitter and angry at my ancestors for being so secretive but I remember my Grandmother and how she was adamant that we never tell anyone or we would be sent away and this was in the 50's! If only my gr granddad had not buried the Bible, we might at least have a portion of those answers. I just hate not solving a puzzle and I so wanted to be able to get my name. I only just found out this past week that my mother was indeed my mother. I always believed that I was the child of one of my brothers, they were over 20 yrs older than me. They both loved me so much that it made sense to me. In my search for my gr granddaddy's truth, I found someone who knew my family, knew of my gr granddaddy, and was able to tell me about the 'Blackfoot' part, as well as told me that my mother came to her house when she was pregnant with me! Not only that, but I was named for her and her sister, Barbara and Gail. This was something no one had ever told me. I even asked my brother's on their deathbeds to tell me the truth about if I was their child and both of them told me that they wished I had been but I wasn't. Even then, I never believed it. Now, some total stranger has told me that she knew my mother when she was pregnant with me. That is a great closure. She is going to let me come see her and hopefully will remember something in talking to me about my gr granddaddy. More later in this great saga. You take care, Barb -------------------------------------------------- From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:38 PM To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Blackfoot Cherokees > Hey Barbara > > By Blackfoot Cherokee, I assume you mean Eastern Blackfoot or Saponi. > Many Siouans from Virginia and North Carolina eventually took refuge with > the > Cherokees. However, since the Saponi never fought a war against the > British or Americans, there was never a treaty with them. As far as I > know > there were also never any official Saponi rolls maintained by the Federal > government. Saponi descendants are scattered all over the Midwest and > Upper > Southeast, but it is very difficult to prove their ancestry because of > the > lack of documentation. > > Richard T. > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hey Barbara By Blackfoot Cherokee, I assume you mean Eastern Blackfoot or Saponi. Many Siouans from Virginia and North Carolina eventually took refuge with the Cherokees. However, since the Saponi never fought a war against the British or Americans, there was never a treaty with them. As far as I know there were also never any official Saponi rolls maintained by the Federal government. Saponi descendants are scattered all over the Midwest and Upper Southeast, but it is very difficult to prove their ancestry because of the lack of documentation. Richard T.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: baileyc1971 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3058/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello there my name is C.J. Bailey I have several famlies that I have been trying to get some information on,its mainly on my dads side of the family which his name was William James Bailey Jr. his dads name was William James Bailey Sr, his dads name was Joseph Cilla Bailey Sr which came from Calhoun County Florida, now my great grandmother which was married to Joe Sr her name was Ruby Cordeila Weeks, her fathers name was Alonzo William Weeks born in Coffee County Alabama, his first wife was Dora Lee Parker from Bay County,Alonzo Weeks mother was Hester Cordeila Lisenby, now my grandmother which was my dads mother was Helen Julia Adkins of Holmes County, her dad was John Edwin Adkins born Sept 7,1863 and died Mar 10,1939 he married Mary Jane Day born July 29,1866 and died Dec 24,1943, I am trying to figure out who has the indian decent I need help with trying to piece all this information together, if anyone can possibly help me with this I would greatly appreciate it I can ! be reached @ baileyc1971@yahoo.com Thank you C.J. Bailey Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I just found out that my gr granddaddy, Andrew Jackson Hunter was a Blackfoot Cherokee. I understand what this means but I need help in how do I go past him, to get the tangible proof I need when he and his family did everything they could do to hide this fact. Any advice?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: baileyc1971 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/75.588/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello there my name is C.J.Bailey my dad was William James Bailey Jr., his dad was William James Bailey Sr, my granddaddy's family came from around Calhoun County Florida, but my great grandmother was Ruby Cordeila Weeks Bailey, Ruby's dad was A.W. Weeks from Holmes County Florida, my grandmother which was my dad's mother was Helen Julia Adkins Bailey also from Holmes County,and I have been trying to find where the creeks come in at in my family I was always told that we had it, but I can't seem to find it, and I was wondering if you would share the information that you have with me. I really just want to find out about where and who I have came from. I can be contacted @ baileyc1971@yahoo.com Thank You. C.J. Bailey Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CarolynFunderburk1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/906.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dee, I've been reading your messages from way back in 2002 regarding Creek heritage. I am esp. interested in the response R. E. Woodham gave to perhaps you ?(can't tell) about the UNlikelihood of Cherokees marrying Creeks. His response is dated Nov. 11, 200l. I hope this reaches you (or anyone else who can help) after such a long time. Thank you. Carolyn Funderburk carolyn.funderburk@gmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

With the sassafras.....it is recorded that the Choctaw introduced....I know this is going to shock some of us....file' like in file' gumbo seasoning to the first Europeans.....it's made from sassafras leaves. No, was not the Cajuns....they adopted it from the NA East of the Mississippi. And, some of the natural "drugs" that the ancient one's used are toxic if the wrong amount is used....healing if correct weight with the person's age and health which our ancestors had figured out correctly. They even had birth control herbs that worked....not the counting days as with moon times, etc. We've gone backwards with a lot of thing it seems. TT ----- Original Message ----- From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Traditional Creek medicines used in contemporaryhealth treatments > Yes, it is true that quite a few herbal medicines traditionally used by > the Creeks, are in use today by contemporary medical practitioners. In > addition, would you believe . . . that the psychedelic drug, ecstasy, is > made > from sassafras oil - i.e. grandma's old remedy for many things, sassafras > tea? > > A man involved in healthcare wrote this email to me today, so I thought I > would pass it on. > > Remember that several "modern drugs" did come from Native Americans but of > course the synthetic meds did not. Next to proper identification of herbs > and other medicinal plants the next obstacle is being sure you come up > with > a proper metered dosage. This can be tricky because concentrations can > differ from one plant to another and can further be affected by a rainy > season > or drought conditions. When dealing with medicinal plants that are > alkaloids it is easy to cause a shift in ph by taking too many are too > frequent dosages of alkaloids. > > > Richard T. > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, it is true that quite a few herbal medicines traditionally used by the Creeks, are in use today by contemporary medical practitioners. In addition, would you believe . . . that the psychedelic drug, ecstasy, is made from sassafras oil - i.e. grandma's old remedy for many things, sassafras tea? A man involved in healthcare wrote this email to me today, so I thought I would pass it on. Remember that several "modern drugs" did come from Native Americans but of course the synthetic meds did not. Next to proper identification of herbs and other medicinal plants the next obstacle is being sure you come up with a proper metered dosage. This can be tricky because concentrations can differ from one plant to another and can further be affected by a rainy season or drought conditions. When dealing with medicinal plants that are alkaloids it is easy to cause a shift in ph by taking too many are too frequent dosages of alkaloids. Richard T.

Mvto is Muskogee Creek meaning thank you....it is pronounced mado.....:) TT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheri Gist" <inthespiritworld@live.com> To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Mado...spelling??? RE: looking for site > > Was saying (thank you!) "Mado" creek or cherokee...I am confused...as > always. <freakin IRISH blood!> THANKS THO > >> From: inthespiritworld@live.com >> To: creek-southeast@rootsweb.com >> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 03:45:01 -0500 >> Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Mado...spelling??? RE: looking for site >> >> >> >> >> > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:53:13 -0800 >> > From: jwhite@loganet.net >> > To: creek-southeast@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] looking for site >> > >> > You can't advertise items for sale on the mailing list. >> > >> > Judy >> > List Mom >> > >> > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:19 PM, <machis@centurytel.net> wrote: >> > >> > > Thought this might be of intrest to yall. I tried to forward it, no >> > > can >> > > do, so I cut and pasted it. I'm a week behind in reading emails. >> > > Nancy >> > > >> > > >> > Notes on the Creek Indians >> > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm >> > >> > Early Creek History >> > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ >> > >> > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians >> > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ >> Notes on the Creek Indians >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm >> >> Early Creek History >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ >> >> Migration Legend of the Creek Indians >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mvto = Thank you ~ CREEK (the v is pronounced as a short u sound, while the t is pronounced d as in dog) Wado = Thank you ~ CHEROKEE DGP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheri Gist" Subject: Re: Mado...spelling??? > Was saying (thank you!) "Mado" creek or cherokee...I am confused...as > always. <freakin IRISH blood!> THANKS THO >>