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    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Apologize for personal email
    2. S.H. Muller
    3. No worries! -----Original Message----- From: creek-southeast-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:creek-southeast-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:28 PM To: creek-southeast@rootsweb.com Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Apologize for personal email Folks, I apologize for sending several personal emails to Creek-Southeast members. AOL shows the sender on the mailbox, but not that the email came through the Creek-Southeast message board. I didn't look closely, and thought I was responding to personal email from these people. I will try not to let it happen again. Richard T. Notes on the Creek Indians http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm Early Creek History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ Migration Legend of the Creek Indians http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/11/2010 11:31:46
    1. [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Apologize for personal email
    2. Folks, I apologize for sending several personal emails to Creek-Southeast members. AOL shows the sender on the mailbox, but not that the email came through the Creek-Southeast message board. I didn't look closely, and thought I was responding to personal email from these people. I will try not to let it happen again. Richard T.

    04/11/2010 11:27:30
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Yuchi
    2. Tim Timothy
    3. Mvto.....tt ----- Original Message ----- From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:22 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Yuchi > Good afternoon Tim > > Actually, I am part Yuchi myself, through the Yuchi Village at Barnard's > Landing on the Savannah. It is very typical for Georgia Creeks to be part > Yuchi. The Hitchiti-speaking Creeks and Yuchi often located their towns > near each other. When the Muskogees signed the fraudulent Treaty of > Indian > Springs, the Hitchiti's and Yuchi refused to honor it, and tried to hide > out > in remote communities - often intermarrying in the process. > > Here is the main Eastern Yuchi web site. They are having a get-together > in mid-June in Saltville, VA. > > _http://www.yuchi.org/_ (http://www.yuchi.org/) > > Have a blessed Sunday > > Richard > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/11/2010 10:35:23
    1. [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] It has been a trip!
    2. Hey Michele! I have been wondering about you too! Did you ever finish your dissertation? In late February I thought I would be moving into a tent, but a couple let me move into their house in the Smokies. That has really broadened my NA research efforts because there are SO MANY famous archaeological sites nearby. I live in the original location of the Tuskegee Creeks and only ten minutes from the site of Chiaha. Both de Soto and Pardo came past my mail box! Another surprise is that even though I live near the oldest continuously occupied Cherokee community (Snowbird) all but one of the Indian place names in this county is either Hitchiti or Muskogee Creek. The other place name is claimed by both the Yuchi and the Cherokees. It is literally the Yuchi word, but stretched a bit to be Cherokee. The truth is out there somewhere. Well, at this moment I don't have a dollar on me, but am extremely healthy and things are happening now, which will probably produce income in the future. Y'all be good, hear? Richard

    04/11/2010 10:28:21
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Three month long series on Native American communities in the Examiner Online
    2. I'd been thinking about you and wondering how you are these days! -----Original Message----- From: TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com To: CREEK-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Apr 11, 2010 12:15 pm Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Three month long series on Native American communities in the Examiner Online April 11, 2010 stanko Brothers and Sisters! n early March the National Edition of Examiner.com began publishing a eries of illustrated articles on Native American communities and towns. eginning with Watsons Brake, LA (3500 BC) the articles are generally moving orward chronologically, and will eventually cover all of the United States nd Canada. There will also be some articles on sites in Mesoamerica that eem culturally linked to indigenous peoples in the Southeast and Southwest. he free articles are probably not technical enough to be terribly useful o professional archaeologists - with the exception of the Florida sites - ut will provide a comprehensive base for teaching Native American history, ulture and architecture. Approximately 45 articles have been published o far. The Examiner allows its articles to be distributed and reproduced ithout prior permission. The list of the currently published articles may e accessed at the following URL: http://www.examiner.com/x-40598-Architecture--Design-Examiner_ http://www.examiner.com/x-40598-Architecture--Design-Examiner) his is how the series happened. I was originally hired by the Examiner n February to write articles on Architecture & Design. The few people, who ead them, gave favorable responses, but it was obvious that Americans are ust not interested in architecture these days. Elsewhere in the world, he professional title of architect is one of the most respected careers. oday in the USA, it guaranties automatic approval for food stamps! In rustration, I wrote a simple article on Indian mounds. The next day it was the number one rated Examiner article in the nation! The editors authorized e to shift to articles on Native American culture with a national focus. ost have been ranked in the top ten readership for that day, since then. everal have been number one. bout Florida or unknown reasons, archaeological studies of the region in Georgia, labama and Florida from Ocmulgee National Monument southward seem to be urrently beyond the radar range of most archaeological publications and web ites these days. Some brilliant work has been done by archaeologists in this egion. Their findings affect the interpretation of sites in other regions. Although the Examiner articles lack technical details or bibliographies eeded by professional archaeologists and historians, they still will ntroduce the readers to a taste of what is being discovered in the South tlantic and Gulf Coast Region. ave a blessed day! ichard Thornton, Editor S: Grannies! I am actually being paid to write these here days. otes on the Creek Indians http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm Early Creek History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ Migration Legend of the Creek Indians http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

    04/11/2010 10:23:48
    1. [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Yuchi
    2. Good afternoon Tim Actually, I am part Yuchi myself, through the Yuchi Village at Barnard's Landing on the Savannah. It is very typical for Georgia Creeks to be part Yuchi. The Hitchiti-speaking Creeks and Yuchi often located their towns near each other. When the Muskogees signed the fraudulent Treaty of Indian Springs, the Hitchiti's and Yuchi refused to honor it, and tried to hide out in remote communities - often intermarrying in the process. Here is the main Eastern Yuchi web site. They are having a get-together in mid-June in Saltville, VA. _http://www.yuchi.org/_ (http://www.yuchi.org/) Have a blessed Sunday Richard

    04/11/2010 10:22:51
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Three month long series on Native Americancommunities in the Examiner Online
    2. Tim Timothy
    3. Glad to see your work being so well received, Richard. I've heard some good comments from some friends that have attended your lectures in the past. I want to ask you a question about the Yuchi. Within a week, I was notified by a person that her sons had a perfect DNA match with my DNA, and they are members of the Muscogee Creek Nation in OK as well as their dad was half Hispanic and half Yuchi with a line into Timothy Barnard and believed it to be through Timpoochee Barnard. Some of Timpoochee's decedents changed their name to Barnett.....the surname of this family from OK. I know you don't do much on genealogy, but do you have any reference materials about the Yuchi other than what we can Google through the internet? I suspect my grand daddy Tom Timothy that was raised an orphan many have actually came out of the Yuchi nation. Mvto tt ----- Original Message ----- From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> To: <CREEK-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:15 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Three month long series on Native Americancommunities in the Examiner Online > > > April 11, 2010 > > Estanko Brothers and Sisters! > > In early March the National Edition of Examiner.com began publishing a > series of illustrated articles on Native American communities and towns. > Beginning with Watsons Brake, LA (3500 BC) the articles are generally > moving > forward chronologically, and will eventually cover all of the United > States > and Canada. There will also be some articles on sites in Mesoamerica > that > seem culturally linked to indigenous peoples in the Southeast and > Southwest. > > The free articles are probably not technical enough to be terribly useful > to professional archaeologists - with the exception of the Florida > sites - > but will provide a comprehensive base for teaching Native American > history, > culture and architecture. Approximately 45 articles have been published > so far. The Examiner allows its articles to be distributed and > reproduced > without prior permission. The list of the currently published articles > may > be accessed at the following URL: > > _http://www.examiner.com/x-40598-Architecture--Design-Examiner_ > (http://www.examiner.com/x-40598-Architecture--Design-Examiner) > > This is how the series happened. I was originally hired by the Examiner > in February to write articles on Architecture & Design. The few people, > who > read them, gave favorable responses, but it was obvious that Americans > are > just not interested in architecture these days. Elsewhere in the world, > the professional title of architect is one of the most respected careers. > Today in the USA, it guaranties automatic approval for food stamps! In > frustration, I wrote a simple article on Indian mounds. The next day it > was the > number one rated Examiner article in the nation! The editors authorized > me to shift to articles on Native American culture with a national focus. > Most have been ranked in the top ten readership for that day, since then. > Several have been number one. > > About Florida > > For unknown reasons, archaeological studies of the region in Georgia, > Alabama and Florida from Ocmulgee National Monument southward seem to be > currently beyond the radar range of most archaeological publications and > web > sites these days. Some brilliant work has been done by archaeologists in > this > region. Their findings affect the interpretation of sites in other > regions. > Although the Examiner articles lack technical details or bibliographies > needed by professional archaeologists and historians, they still will > introduce the readers to a taste of what is being discovered in the South > Atlantic and Gulf Coast Region. > > Have a blessed day! > > Richard Thornton, Editor > > PS: Grannies! I am actually being paid to write these here days. > > > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/11/2010 10:11:33
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Three month long series on Native American communities in the Examiner Online
    2. Dorothy H. Hope
    3. Richard, Thanks for the information. I look forward to following this series. Dot Hope Gainesville, FL At 12:15 PM 4/11/2010 -0400, you wrote: > > >April 11, 2010 > >Estanko Brothers and Sisters! > >In early March the National Edition of Examiner.com began publishing a >series of illustrated articles on Native American communities and towns. >Beginning with Watsons Brake, LA (3500 BC) the articles are generally moving >forward chronologically, and will eventually cover all of the United States >and Canada. There will also be some articles on sites in Mesoamerica that >seem culturally linked to indigenous peoples in the Southeast and Southwest. > >The free articles are probably not technical enough to be terribly useful >to professional archaeologists - with the exception of the Florida sites - >but will provide a comprehensive base for teaching Native American history, >culture and architecture. Approximately 45 articles have been published >so far. The Examiner allows its articles to be distributed and reproduced >without prior permission. The list of the currently published articles may >be accessed at the following URL: > >_http://www.examiner.com/x-40598-Architecture--Design-Examiner_ >(http://www.examiner.com/x-40598-Architecture--Design-Examiner) > >This is how the series happened. I was originally hired by the Examiner >in February to write articles on Architecture & Design. The few people, who >read them, gave favorable responses, but it was obvious that Americans are >just not interested in architecture these days. Elsewhere in the world, >the professional title of architect is one of the most respected careers. >Today in the USA, it guaranties automatic approval for food stamps! In >frustration, I wrote a simple article on Indian mounds. The next day it >was the >number one rated Examiner article in the nation! The editors authorized >me to shift to articles on Native American culture with a national focus. >Most have been ranked in the top ten readership for that day, since then. >Several have been number one. > >About Florida > >For unknown reasons, archaeological studies of the region in Georgia, >Alabama and Florida from Ocmulgee National Monument southward seem to be >currently beyond the radar range of most archaeological publications and web >sites these days. Some brilliant work has been done by archaeologists >in this >region. Their findings affect the interpretation of sites in other regions. > Although the Examiner articles lack technical details or bibliographies >needed by professional archaeologists and historians, they still will >introduce the readers to a taste of what is being discovered in the South >Atlantic and Gulf Coast Region. > >Have a blessed day! > >Richard Thornton, Editor > >PS: Grannies! I am actually being paid to write these here days. > > >Notes on the Creek Indians >http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > >Early Creek History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > >Migration Legend of the Creek Indians >http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/11/2010 06:32:21
    1. [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Three month long series on Native American communities in the Examiner Online
    2. April 11, 2010 Estanko Brothers and Sisters! In early March the National Edition of Examiner.com began publishing a series of illustrated articles on Native American communities and towns. Beginning with Watsons Brake, LA (3500 BC) the articles are generally moving forward chronologically, and will eventually cover all of the United States and Canada. There will also be some articles on sites in Mesoamerica that seem culturally linked to indigenous peoples in the Southeast and Southwest. The free articles are probably not technical enough to be terribly useful to professional archaeologists - with the exception of the Florida sites - but will provide a comprehensive base for teaching Native American history, culture and architecture. Approximately 45 articles have been published so far. The Examiner allows its articles to be distributed and reproduced without prior permission. The list of the currently published articles may be accessed at the following URL: _http://www.examiner.com/x-40598-Architecture--Design-Examiner_ (http://www.examiner.com/x-40598-Architecture--Design-Examiner) This is how the series happened. I was originally hired by the Examiner in February to write articles on Architecture & Design. The few people, who read them, gave favorable responses, but it was obvious that Americans are just not interested in architecture these days. Elsewhere in the world, the professional title of architect is one of the most respected careers. Today in the USA, it guaranties automatic approval for food stamps! In frustration, I wrote a simple article on Indian mounds. The next day it was the number one rated Examiner article in the nation! The editors authorized me to shift to articles on Native American culture with a national focus. Most have been ranked in the top ten readership for that day, since then. Several have been number one. About Florida For unknown reasons, archaeological studies of the region in Georgia, Alabama and Florida from Ocmulgee National Monument southward seem to be currently beyond the radar range of most archaeological publications and web sites these days. Some brilliant work has been done by archaeologists in this region. Their findings affect the interpretation of sites in other regions. Although the Examiner articles lack technical details or bibliographies needed by professional archaeologists and historians, they still will introduce the readers to a taste of what is being discovered in the South Atlantic and Gulf Coast Region. Have a blessed day! Richard Thornton, Editor PS: Grannies! I am actually being paid to write these here days.

    04/11/2010 06:15:36
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] hazelwood
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tnpossum145 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/100.193.1.3.4.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: i want to talk about blaney hazelwood . he was my 4th great grand father Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/10/2010 01:06:22
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] hazelwood
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tnpossum145 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/100.193.1.3.4.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: i want to talk about blaney hazelwood . he was my 4th great grang father Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/10/2010 01:03:55
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] hazelwood
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tnpossum_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/100.193.1.3.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: judy i do belive you could be a little mistaken about when blaney died i have found his ston and it reads blaney hazelwood born 1765 died oct.25.1862 97 years . his first wife is there also hanna born 1770 died 1802 34 years she was the mother of thomas and i am sure they had more children thomas born 1799 north caroilna died 1858 jefferson county . if you want to know more contact me at tnpossum@bellsouth.net thank you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/08/2010 10:20:38
    1. [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Yuchi Research
    2. Will you keep me in the loop with anything you try and anything you find ut, please. If we do team work, we eliminate wasted effort and spinning heels. Tim, Thank you for your response. I do get to Columbus abt one time a year as I live in south Fla. The names I am looking for are CULBERSON, CULBERTSON, CULVERSON, MARTIN, WATKINS AND ROWELL. I have been to the library in Columbus and have found them in the city directories from 1890 to 1916. I have not found any obits as yet. Besides TIMOTHY, are there any other names you are looking for in Columbus. I will make a list and keep you in mind. Again thanks, Glenda

    04/07/2010 03:41:47
    1. [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Belz
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: machinesew41 Surnames: Belz Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3066/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello my name is Cherie Belz and I am looking for some info on the Belz family from Cook county in Chicago. Around 1956. I am looking for info on a Robert William Belz who was a staff sargent at this time in the air force. Any info would be great. Also any family that knows of this person can contact me at machinesew41@aol.com Thank you for reading. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/06/2010 01:52:33
    1. [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Belz
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: machinesew41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3065/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello my name is Cherie Belz and I am looking for some info on the Belz family from Cook county in Chicago. Around 1956. I am looking for info on a Robert William Belz who was a staff sargent at this time in the air force. Any info would be great. Also any family that knows of this person can contact me at machinesew41@aol.com Thank you for reading. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/06/2010 01:50:09
    1. [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Belz
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: machinesew41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3064/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello my name is Cherie Belz and I am looking for some info on the Belz family from Cook county in Chicago. Around 1956. I am looking for info on a Robert William Belz who was a staff sargent at this time in the air force. Any info would be great. Also any family that knows of this person can contact me at machinesew41@aol.com Thank you for reading. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/06/2010 01:50:07
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] CREEK-SOUTHEAST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 44
    2. ....have lots of other things in the mill > as well including getting my ceremonial regalia together for this upcoming > ceremony at Lower Creek, Whigham, GA and a week long Earth Skills (Primitive > Living) in northern part of GA. > Hey Tim, Wish I could attend the earthskills event, but will probably have to miss it this year. I've attended many times over the years. Surprised I never met you there. Paul Hornsby

    04/06/2010 06:27:32
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] CREEK-SOUTHEAST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 44
    2. Tim Timothy
    3. This information came from the mother of her sons that my DNA matched that live in AZ. They were living in OK when the kids were born. One is now near 20. Apparently she did some research on her deceased husband's heritage as he was half Hispanic and half Yuchi. I found the boys great grand daddy on the Dawes List and he was listed as 3/4 blood. That's all I have on it but am seeing a lot of info going all over the place with the variations of spelling for Barnard....Timothy and his sons which one is Timpoochee. I found where years ago there was a conference or some kind of gathering of Yuchi at Columbus, GA. I imagine we will have to get hold of the city and state officials to find out more. I haven't gotten there yet. RICHARD T. may know if there is a group of Yuchi in Columbus GA. How about it Richard? Will you keep me in the loop with anything you try and anything you find out, please. If we do team work, we eliminate wasted effort and spinning wheels. People on this site helped me help myself from day one hunting my blood and I imagine there are some that knows a lot about the Yuchi. I will spend some time on this hunt....have lots of other things in the mill as well including getting my ceremonial regalia together for this upcoming ceremony at Lower Creek, Whigham, GA and a week long Earth Skills (Primitive Living) in northern part of GA. Mvto tt ----- Original Message ----- From: <gjhol909@aol.com> To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] CREEK-SOUTHEAST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 44 > > > > You can find more on them in Columbus, GA. What I > ind an ironic twist of history is that the Yuchi were forced to vacate > heir areas in the Jacksonian era (actually Cosena did not wait 'till > forced > emoval - some of them self-emigrated to Indian Territory before that) and > uess who replaced them in GA and AL? Some of my Cobb ancestors! So my > ids are a mix of the clash." > > > > > > > Hi Tim, > > How did you find that the list that stated the Yuchis living in Columbus, > Ga. I am looking for my husband's grandfather, Wilson L. Culberson b. > abt 1834 who was in Columbus and Hamilton, Ga from 1870 til his death abt > 1916-1917. He and his 3 sons were listed as Mulattos. Family stories say > they are Cherokee, but could be Yuchi. I cannot find anything on Wilson > before 1870. Any ideas? > > Thanks, Glenda > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/06/2010 04:35:09
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] CREEK-SOUTHEAST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 44
    2. You can find more on them in Columbus, GA. What I ind an ironic twist of history is that the Yuchi were forced to vacate heir areas in the Jacksonian era (actually Cosena did not wait 'till forced emoval - some of them self-emigrated to Indian Territory before that) and uess who replaced them in GA and AL? Some of my Cobb ancestors! So my ids are a mix of the clash." Hi Tim, How did you find that the list that stated the Yuchis living in Columbus, Ga. I am looking for my husband's grandfather, Wilson L. Culberson b. abt 1834 who was in Columbus and Hamilton, Ga from 1870 til his death abt 1916-1917. He and his 3 sons were listed as Mulattos. Family stories say they are Cherokee, but could be Yuchi. I cannot find anything on Wilson before 1870. Any ideas? Thanks, Glenda

    04/06/2010 02:29:13
    1. Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Estanko, my BLOOD Brothers and Sisters
    2. Tim Timothy
    3. CONGRADS! I know the feelings as well......after around 60 years, with the help of many on this site, I was assisted in finding proof of my native blood which lead to being brought into the Lower Muscogee Creek Nation. THEN....JUST A FEW DAYS AGO, I was told I have an exact DNA match with these three sons of this lady that lives in AZ, but was once married to a half Hispanic and half Yuchi in OK where the boys were born.....one is now near 20 years old. The blood line is with the Barnett surname that traces back to Timothy Barnard and his son, it seems, with Timpoochee Barnard being the likely ancestor. I suspected my grand daddy, Tom Timothy (b 1854), was out of the Hitachi due to seeing a government bill dated 1803 for a Timothley (an Hitachi) that was on the list. There is still a dead end with Tom, being raised as an orphan, but have heard stories of his parents migration without him, and that he went searching OK for them after he was raised from 6 years old with some aunt married to a white man, then came back to Monroe County. It seems, based on my DNA he may have came out of the Yuchi instead. >From what I have found, and was told, the Barnard name was changed somewhere along the line after Timpoochee for some reason. We know many natives changed their name at times to hide. The sons are registered with the Muscogee Creek Nation in OK through their great grand father who was on the Dawes Report dated in 1907....roll number 283,William Abraham Barnett, Jr. I verified the name and number on the Dawes Report....it's there. He was listed as 3/4 blood. Does anyone know anything about this line the mother gave me? Here is the info I was sent and any help will be appreciated: "Here's the boys' Yuchi background: Their father was Donald James "Barney" Barnett, passed away in 2007. His father, their grandfather, was Elliott Jean Barnett, d. in 2003 (?). He was from both Haskell and Sapulpa, OK. His father was William Abraham Barnett, Jr. The roll # is 283 (I think, without looking). Therefore his father had to be William Abraham Barnett, Sr. I'm thinking this is the one that I've seen in some writings as Billy Barnett. But from him back to Timothy Barnard, the son of the English immigrants, I have a few gaps. The descendents of Cosena Barnard have surnames of Gregory and Brown. Sam Brown was a "chief," although the Yuchi are not a federally recognized tribe. They're considered a minority group within the Creek Nation and had lived in the Sapulpa area for quite some time. They tried as recently as 2000 for that status but did not get it. They're too mixed in by now, I guess, and last I heard there were only about 13 people that spoke the language. By the way, the language is not related at all to the rest of the Southeastern groups. It seems to be an anomaly but they have classified it as Siouan, I believe. You can find more on them in Columbus, GA. What I find an ironic twist of history is that the Yuchi were forced to vacate their areas in the Jacksonian era (actually Cosena did not wait 'till forced removal - some of them self-emigrated to Indian Territory before that) and guess who replaced them in GA and AL? Some of my Cobb ancestors! So my kids are a mix of the clash." Again.....any help is appreciated. TT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Whitley" <pwhitley@bellsouth.net> To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:36 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Estanko, my BLOOD Brothers and Sisters > Today I went to a family reunion and was talking about our past (and > passed) > relatives. When I mentioned my g grandmother, Paraline Parmer, one of the > older cousins said, "Oh, the Creek Indian woman...". I was speechless for > a > few moments but then picked her brain for everything she could remember, > which turned out to be very little except that Paraline was indeed Creek > (not a princess, BTW) and was from Randolph Co. Alabama. She married my g > grandfather, William Thomas Whitley and had a houseload of kids. > > After all these years I have been writing about the Creek Indians and > wishing I could claim at least some blood ties, I think I may have found > some. The search is on!!! > > MVTO > Phil Whitley > > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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