A while back someone from this list had said that s/he had a copy of the letter that Peggy Moore Kennard had sent to Creek Lyman Moore in Eastern IT. This person was also looking for the name of Peggy's first husband. I have the name of Peggy's first husband. I would kill to have a copy of that letter. Jill

Tim and I will be leaving tomorrow morning to GA. His mother is out of the hospital but is very week. So we decided we still need to go to GA to take care of her and my father in law. We were in formed that my father in law is not in good health at this time. So keep us in your prayers. I will keep you updated as I will have access to a computer while we are down there. Love Little White Dove Proud Member of the NCNOLT District Rep. of MO AKA: Susan R. Robinson Dove3002@aol.com <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/mo2/Ltwhtdove/">Dove's Dreams</A> http://www.angelfire.com/mo2/Ltwhtdove/ AOL Messenger: Dove3002 Yahoo: Ltwhtdove MSN Messenger: Dove3002@aol.com "Great Spirit, Great Spirit, my Grandfather, all over the earth the  faces of living things are all alike...  Look upon these faces of they children without number and with children in their arms, that may face the winds and walk the good road to the day of quiet." -- Black Elk (1863-1950)         Oglala Sioux holy man

Sorry about the last mail I hit the wrong button. This is to Scarlett Manning in regards to the web address that was posted on 2/5/03 Debts of indians and indian countrymen, 1806. Do you know if this list were all indians or if some were white men . I have a family rumor that we came from creek indians. And that James Simmons married an indian woman and that one of thier children were Elizabeth Simmons who married willis anderson. I all so found in a book in the Pensacola, FL Public Lib. that one of the traders out of Pensacola FL. was a james Simmons who traded in the town of Wococoie along with a James Clark (who I take by the reading might have been the head trader)and a John Gillard. the info came from the book Fla History Quart. Vol 31 July 1952- April 1953. The title of the subject was The Pensacloa Indian Trade, by Peter A. Brannon I am at a brick wall and was hoping that the james simmons on the web page might be the same one I am looking for. any info would really help thanks Margaret margaretbride@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5R.2ADI/84.125.1.2 Message Board Post: I wanted to check and see if the name was kitchens or kitchen. I have great aunt that is named Barbara Kitchen.

Regarding Fort Mims: I find this all very interesting, it's like we are all meant to bring this into the present. All the surnames coming back to talk to each other, it's pretty incredible. Personally, I feel a little haunted by the whole thing. I am in the 7th generation since this occurrence and can't help feeling a bit driven. During my research it seems that Fort Mims was more of a family dispute between the half bloods and full bloods. Too many people were related to one another, on both sides (friendlies vs hostiles) . I keep wondering about what happened, feeling like I want to know why it ended up the way it did. I kind of figure the half bloods liked dancing in the two worlds, and the full bloods didn't and it created a large conflict, especially when Tecumseh was trying to unite all Indian nations against the whites and their ways. Though there had been massacres and battles before this, Fort Mims was a turning point, it set precedent to what was to come throughout the continent. It was a very important happening in American History, and I think there are reasons it has been basically left out of our history books ('cept for Alabama history). I think one reason being, Andrew Jackson used it as an excuse to attack the Creeks, claiming the inhabitants of Fort Mims were white, but they were not, they were mixed. It was an immense land grab, and the creeks on both sides were not any where closely compensated for their land. Love that Creek Indian Researcher! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~texlance/main.htm Here is a list of traders in the creek nation, 1804 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~texlance/earlyresidents/1804traders.htm Debts of indians and indian countrymen, 1806 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~texlance/earlyresidents/treatydebts.htm Claims of Friendly Creeks for losses during the creek civil war http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~texlance/earlyclaims/friendlycreekclaims1.htm For all you related to the stedham/stiddem/Stidham line here is GW Stidham's creek roll http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~texlance/emigrants/stidhamroll1.htm

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmamcrk4/crkchfndx.html

List, I think it was this list where I saw someone looking for Thrift ancestors. I hope someone can make a connection to a long lost ancestor. Lynne http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/thrift.html

> > List, > Here is an awesome webpage on Desc. of Chief William M. McIntosh, Jr. > I don't think I have seen anyone mention it before. There is even a link > to download a 449 pg. pdf. It took forever. Enjoy!!! Lynne > > http://www.chiefmcintosh.com/

> Hope this helps someone. Lynne > >

> Thought someone on the list would be interested in seeing who fought with > Major McIntosh in the Creek Wars. Lynne > > > http://www.genealogy-quest.com/collections/mcintosh.html

> http://www.african-nativeamerican.com/seizure.htm > > Another helpful link for possible connections. Lynne

> http://www.ocevnet.org/creek/chiefs.html > > Hope someone will be able to make a connection thru this site.

Ricardo, Go to rootsweb.com, click on mailing lists, find creek list & unsubscribe from your current addy and then subscribe to the new one. Lynne

I have an irgent prayer request! My Mother in Law (her name is Jeannette) is in the hospital. We don't know what is wrong with her. The Dr.'s have ran bunches of test and nothing is showing up to say what is wrong. They will be running a ekg tomorrow. It looks like Tim and I will be going to GA this week sometime. Please pray for my mother in law and please pray for Tim & I as we go to GA. Thanks Bunches! Susan & Tim P.S. Please put her on your prayer chains!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5R.2ADI/150.156.538.1.5 Message Board Post: i want to know more about chief red bird im his 9th generation grandson im trying to find more about the tribe of his an more of my familey out there . i hope we can help each other an thank you

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: welch/gaskin/hall/pippins/yon/connell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5R.2ADI/943 Message Board Post: i have creek indian ancestry on my mothers side of family.i need info to fully establish myself as being of creek lineage.any info would be greatly appreciated.e-mail at tanker@friendlycity.net.thanks..

Where do I go to notify you of an e-mail address change. Ricardo Smith

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mims, Bailey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5R.2ADI/942 Message Board Post: My ancestors possibly connected to the Ft. Mims families: --my G-grand mother was Melinda Adeline Mims (b. 30Jan1856 in Florida, d. 14Apr1919 Marble Fals, Burnet Co., TX) ---Melinda's mother and father: Amanda "Leona" Mims (b. Florida, d. Marble Falls, TX) - lived in Tennessee before marrying and her father had land with 200 black slaves--his name ? Mims from Florida; "Leona" husband was T. George Bailey (b. Alabama, d. Marble Falls, Burnet Co., TX) The unusual name of Mims, the locale of TN an AL---make it seem a close connection. Appreciate any light or connection that this may have to your information.

Bob, I was talking about the list of Indian traders, but found it, I did look at your web sight, very nice. When i was showed the names in the Cherokee book, I asked this man how we got an Irish name he said, "They took the Indians into a room with a table, on the table was a peice of paper with a white man's name on it, that was the name they were to use, if they wanted to buy land and live as a white man and not go to the reservation." My people where in Dale and coffee county before 1820's. I would love to know more about this storie. margie

List, Thought someone might be interested in this book. Lynne Lachlan McGillivray, Indian Trader The Shaping of the Southern Colonial Frontier Edward J. Cashin On the southern colonial frontier--the lands south of the Carolinas from the Savannah to the Mississippi rivers--Indian traders were an essential commercial and political link between Native Americans and European settlers. By following the career of one influential trader from 1736 to 1776, Edward J. Cashin presents a historical perspective of the frontier not as the edge of European civilization but as a zone of constant change and interaction between many cultures. Lachlan McGillivray knew firsthand of the frontier's natural wealth and strategic importance to England, France, and Spain, because he lived deep within it among his wife's people, the Creeks. Until he returned to his native Scotland in 1782, he witnessed, and often participated in, the major events shaping the region--from decisive battles to major treaties and land cessions. He was both a consultant to the leaders of colonial Georgia and South Carolina and their emissary to the great chiefs of the Creeks, Cherokees, Choctaws, and Chickasaws. Cashin discusses the aims and ambitions of the frontier's many interest groups, profiles the figures who catalyzed the power struggles, and explains events from the vantage points of traders and Native Americans. He also offers information about the rise of the southern elite, for in the decade before he left America, McGillivray was a successful planter and slave trader, a popular politician, and a member of the Savannah gentry. Against the panorama of the southern colonial frontier, Edward J. Cashin affirms the importance of traders in regional and international politics and commerce. Edward J. Cashin is chair of the history department at Augusta College. His book The King's Ranger: Thomas Brown and the American Revolution on the Southern Frontier (Georgia, 1989) won the 1990 Fraunces Tavern Book Award of the American Revolution Round Table. Biography & Autobiography • History, U.S. 6 x 9 • 416 pp. • 3 maps Hardcover ISBN 0-8203-1368-8 (cl.) • $45