This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5R.2ADI/985 Message Board Post: Would anyone have any history on the Village Springs Cemetary. This cemetary sets in the south corner of Blount Co. It is said that this cemetary was orginially a Native American Cemtary. any help would be greatly appeciated. thank you EarlyEve

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5R.2ADI/984 Message Board Post: would anyone know of Anna Cornlius, Greoge Marshall, or any Carrethers in the area of Blount Co or Jefferson Co Alabama. would anyone know about the Village Springs Cemetry in Blount Co. this was ogrinially a Native American Cemetary.. any information on these subjects would be greatly appreciated. EarlyEve

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5R.2ADI/983.1 Message Board Post: Glad you are feeling better. Everyone needs to be made aware of thier worth to each other sometime. God Bless

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gilmore Hughley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5R.2ADI/75.355.419.642.1.1 Message Board Post: Have you exployed what maps might be in existance covering the time period of the graves with tombstones. Prehaps the "white family" recorded features on the property (tax records) in the courthouse in that area. I would also search the web for the "u.s. geological survey" for that area, and also if you haven't already get a copy of the county map from that state's department of transportation. Get the map with the largest scale ratio; if will have more detail. Much success in your investigation. Kenny Kenny

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Doris Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5R.2ADI/983 Message Board Post: I want to thank every one for your wonderful letters. I dont get down often.I feel much better now, and I'm so glad that you all care. The grate creator has blessed me with all of you. May he walk with you always. Wolf Sister

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mims-James-Poor Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5R.2ADI/982 Message Board Post: I am a descendant of Shadrach Mims. I would gladly pay all costs incurred to have a copy of this book I have received via e-mail as many as 300 pages on another family line.Thanks for any info where I can get a copy of book. pipelori@fmtc.com

Where do you belong. Dear Wolf Sister. I understand your feeling the way you do. I too at one time while I was young wondered where I belonged. Lady Wolf Sister, You belong where you want to belong. More to you later but for now, You are an American and thats the best thing in the whole world to be. I too have native blood in me and have bee scorned by some high class money people but I put my nose to the shy and walked proud amongst them all. No one is better than I am and they ar not better than you. Don't forget that please. Hold yourself high and smile at the world and smile and say, Look at me. I am the best. Until tomorrow, Dream good tonight Wolf Sister ole lone Self Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] were do i belong Message Board Post: I was not excepted in the white community as a child and as i got older some natives did the same to me as im not a card holder. I'm feeling down tonight. I feel like I dont belong anywere. My grand mother tough me how to make baskets. I still make them today. I pound my ash. I go to pow wows and sell them. I live the way my father though me to live. My father was full native. I am NATIVE. I teach my grand children what i was tough by my father. I have one that is a dancer and she loves it. She is prod to be Native. Can some one tell my were i be long. Wolf Sister ==== CREEK-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Carol Middleton's Legacy Among the Creeks http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmamcrk4/ Heritage of the South http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmddlton/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5R.2ADI/981 Message Board Post: I was not excepted in the white community as a child and as i got older some natives did the same to me as im not a card holder. I'm feeling down tonight. I feel like I dont belong anywere. My grand mother tough me how to make baskets. I still make them today. I pound my ash. I go to pow wows and sell them. I live the way my father though me to live. My father was full native. I am NATIVE. I teach my grand children what i was tough by my father. I have one that is a dancer and she loves it. She is prod to be Native. Can some one tell my were i be long. Wolf Sister

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gilmore Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5R.2ADI/75.355.419.642.1 Message Board Post: My reply is to the Gilmore surname. I have a mystery I am trying to solve. Here in Greene County, Pa, on the PA / WV border, in Gilmore Township, is the Gilmore Cemetery, white folks. Actually, the cemetery may just be located in WV. There are some black Gilmore in the county, or there were in years past. The mystery? The Gilmore cemetery stones are ones that probably cost a pretty sum in those days. About 25 feet south of the Gilmore markers, is a large fieldstone sitting upright with several small field stones placed around it ... similar, in my opinion, to the placement of the Gilmore stones. Is this just a random placement of fieldstones? Or could it be another cemetery, possibly of colored folk? Slaves, former slaves, runaway slaves, free people of color...people who might not have had the money to purchase tombstones. Questions that come to mind: Is it a graveyard? Who would be buried there? Since the location is south of the PA border, is it possible these Gilmore own! ed slaves? Or owned and freed their slaves? Or, since there were black Gilmore/Gilmere in the county, could there be another possible answer? Not all slaves in Greene County were registered. We can find black people almost appearing from nowhere. Runaways, possibly. Freed slaves we were not aware of, possibly. Black folk who one day were slaves, and the next day were not slaves...possibly. The gradual abolition of slavery. This message is to say there were African American Gilmores in Greene County, PA but where did they come from? Not sure if there might have been an Indian connection.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Merritt and many others Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5R.2ADI/974.1 Message Board Post: I have now discovered that Mary Merritt's mother's name was Senia. She was a Creek Indian. Any help appreciated!!!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5R.2ADI/980 Message Board Post: Anybody have any info on the Frost surname among the southestern tribes ?

I'm am looking for a Tom Anderson he is from what I have been told an indian who married a Mary, children Willis, William, John,and Thomas. Willis married Elizabeth Simmons 1832 in Henry, Alabama. Elizabeth parents where James simmons and an Indian woman. Willis and Elizabeth children where Willis, Elizabeth, Rachel, Hett, Thomas, and James. any help would be appreciated thanks, Margaret

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5R.2ADI/33.405.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Priscilla Berryhill Married Thomas Talbert 25 Dec1809 Amite Miss

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Welch, Blackshear, Merritt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5R.2ADI/955.1.2 Message Board Post: Richard and Abigail are also in my line! I am thrilled to find someone that connected Abigail with the Blackshear name. Do you have any more info on Richard or Abigail?

As I said, the Etheridge line is well known. That is the first time I have seen the information presented in quite that form, though. If it exists in a publication that you know of I would appreciate a citation of source. My line from Nancy Mackey/Robert Ridley, Sr. is less known; and from their daughter Sarah Ridley... not known at all so far as I am aware. The reason for this is probably pretty simple. When Sarah Ridley married Allen Spear they almost immediately relocated to Thomas County, Georgia. Thanks Richard White Tallahassee, Florida

Hello Richard & Randall, The courthouse in Irwinton, Wilkinson Co., Ga. burned 4 or 5 times throughout the years so many records were lost. I began my research based on a sheet of paper written by a deceased relative who went to the courthouse. In the early 60's Brook's health had already declined too much to have made the trip to Irwinton so I know this info was written earlier. His wife is now 94 and her memory is still pretty good but she couldn't remember anymore details. Since I still haven't figured out jpeg etc. to get my scanner to copy this I will type it out. Early Ancestry of Otto Etheridge Sr. Early English and Indian History taken from the Census Bureaus of Indian Affairs show that in 1741 William G. Mackey and family came to America from Scotland and settled 2 1/2 miles east of what is now Toombsboro, Ga. on Indian land. They are buried 2 miles east of Toombsboro in Mackey Cemetary. A son ,W.G. Mackey was married to Hop'EE Micah, a daughter of Indian chief Hopie Micah a daughter Hopey Mackey married Merret L. Etheridge who came from Wales to America when 14 years of age. children of Merrett & Hopey Etheridge Merrett E. Etheridge wife, Lucy Kingery Twins Tabitha- married Archibald Hooks Demoris- married John K. Wheeler Lucious Flournoy Etheridge-1834-1908 married Winnie Branan, sister of his 1st wife Elizabeth Ann. ________________________________________________________ Make of this what you will. I've gone to the courthouse but so many records were destroyed that there's not much information to find. However in the land office records the map shows a cemetary at the right place to be the Mackey cemetary and also has labeled an Indian burial ground between the next cemetary (Stephen's) and the town of Toombsboro. I talked to someone who has been to the cemetary and he said that there are no markers and no one knew who was buried there. If the information I have is correct that would make the Mackey's the first settlers of Toombsboro. William G. Mackeys occupation was Indian trader. Marie Mullis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard White" <rw@pone.com> To: <CREEK-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Campbell, Beason, McKie > Scottish names can be subject to some widely varying spellings You > might look into the history & genealogy of the William G. Mackey family > in Wilkinson County, Georgia. The story, part of which was put down as > "legend" in a Wilkinson County history book, is that Mackey was an > Indian trader at Old Oconee Town who stayed on after the frontier passed > through the area. I'm pretty sure that Old Oconee Town and the sites of > Ft. Wilkinson, Ft. Fidus, Rock Landing, etc., all ended up in Baldwin > County... but literally not much more than a stone's throw from the > boundary with Wilkinson County. Mackey's wife is known to history such > as it is, as "Hoppoi Miccoy". I can make no sense of that... Hopoie > Micco was a Creek chief. Presumably there was some familial > relationship between Hopoie Micco and Mackey's wife... but you are > dealing with cross-cultural exchange of information there, which is > murky to say the very least... and in the past almost two centuries a > lot more effort has probably gone into trying to ignore and forget the > facts than to remember and preserve them. The bits and snippets that I > have don't make much of a coherent picture, nor do I have any clear, > documented evidence for the earliest 3 generations... but their daughter > Nancy Mackey was supposedly one of my 3-great grandmothers. The place > to look for information on this family, is Wilkinson County, Georgia. > > This William G. Mackey was supposedly from Virginia. A lot of what now > passes as documented fact, though, is nothing but scattered random > fragments of information. I'm going to paste part of something I copied > some time back from some e-mail or web source that I failed to document > properly. It's not an answer, but a question. But I think that the > nature of some of the specifics mentioned in it may very enlightening as > to the nature of the kinds of problems that you are facing. This could > very well be a mention of the same William Mackey... or not! <G> > > If you ever figure anything out... please let me know. <G> > > Richard White > Tallahassee, Florida > > > Thomas MACKEY PA-NC-GA ca 1800 > > > > Posted by Kevin White > > <kevinjwhite@yahoo.com> on Wed, 07 Jul 1999 > > > > Surname: MACKEY > > > > Any one with any information on this family group: > > > > In the cemetery of Old Hebron Presbyterian Church near Commerce, GA is > > a marker to the memory of Samuel Mackie > > 1761-Dec. 5 , 1845 and a marker for Thomas McKie. > > The stone for Thomas McKie reads: > > "Died ca. 1797, Father of JOHN McKIE, WILLIAM McKIE, SAMUEL McKIE, > > RACHEL BREXEY STRICKLAND, > > MARTHA FLEMING, MARY HEMPHILL, ROSANNAH TEMPLETON , A Revolutionary > > War Patriot from Burke Co., > > NC to Elbert Co, Ga., Erected in 1973." > > > > Information taken from Walter Scott McCleskey's 1997 version of The > > McCleskey Family in Georgia. (Thanks to Bob Harwell). > > > > Previous researchers have said that three Mackey (McKie, McKey) > > brothers immigrated around 1751, first settling in Chester Co PA, then > > moving to SC about 1767, before > > moving to Burke Co (now McDowell Co NC) about the start of the > > Revolution. These NC Mackeys are all believed to be descendants of > > John or Thomas Mackey, two of the > > immigrant brothers. Thomas was said to have died in "SC". I wonder if > > this might be the same Thomas. > > > > Anyone have any information on Thomas or his family? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Randall Baker wrote: > > >I am interested in knowing of any Creek families with > >some connection to the Campbell, Beason or > >McKie(McKee, McKay) families. All of these families > >lived in Alabama prior to 1840. > >These were the family lines on my maternal > >grandmother's side of the family and it has always > >been accepted in my family that my grandmother had > >Native American ancestry. My grandmother didn't really > >know much about her family, though, so we never knew > >any kind of details. > >Given the geographic location of her ancestors, I've > >decided to see if there was possibly a Creek > >connection. > >Any help would be much appreciated. > > > >Thanks, > >Randall Baker > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5R.2ADI/976 Message Board Post: My name is Lisa Watson. My fathers name is John E. Watson Jr. He is from Blount County AL. His Mothers name was Elinor R Watson ( nee robinette). Her fathers name was Lester Robinette. I think her mothers last name was Rutherford, not sure. They lived in the Blount County Alabama area. My great great grreat grandfather was an infant, who was left behind when Jackson made all the creeks go the trail of tears...( that's what I'm told) He was raised by a family with the last name of Butler... I would like to know his mothers name, his fathers name, and so forth, yet no one seems to know any info. Can anyone find a story, a tale, something that would coincide with this? I dont' know if the lady survived the journey, if she had other kids, if Mr butler was the father of the infant, or if the Butler family simply took him in and adopted him to spare him possible death, or what... I know all the creeks were removed, and sent to Oklahoma. But I dont have a name for her or anything. I believe my great great great grandfathers first name was John. I do know he took the name Butler from the family who kept him. I THINK, he married a half-creek woman named Sally.. I dont' know how it goes from there to me, except that my Grandmother carried the creek blood, then my father, and now me... though heavily diluted by now.. No, we are not registered. My grandmother hid her status. My father didnt' register. I apparently dont' have enough creek blood to be considered, even IF registry were possible. I would like to know the real story though, of why an infant was left behind, and his mother sent off, to possibly die on the way.. and what happened to her, if she made it, if she had children, etc...

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Green Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5R.2ADI/975 Message Board Post: My Green line came from Stoneham Mass. Can some one tell me were i can get info. on the tribs, Agawome and Naamkeek. They were the only people in Stoneham when the whites came. Thank you, Doris

To all on this great list. Of all the letters I received concerning the letter I sent about the Rip Tides, I wanted to share this letter with you and do have permission from the writer who is listed below. The reason I chose this letter from over 70 letters, Just counted most of them, I feel this letter causes one to re-read my letter and by reading my info again, This may help those reading the information to remember and to concentrate harder on the subject of the Rip Tides. All the letters are so super and proudly written, I wish they had been sent to the lists. So with happiness, I send you the letter from Ray and Scarlett With pleasure, Cherokee. about all I know Hi da li he li ga Let us all be happy Gv ya li e li tsi si I appreciate you Sgi ole bob Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] OFF list SUBJECT SWIMMING IN THE GULF This is some of the best warnings one could offer, thanks for your concern. It's not everyday we come accross a person who holds the value of life as you have offered to us, THANKS AGAIN, Ray and Scarlett ole Bob in Fla

Good Morning all, Well, The response I got from my letter below was really outstanding. All were very supportive of the letter and I feel they will pass on the dangers of swimming regardless where the water is located. This assures me that my time spent writing the letter was well worth the effort. Seing others lose their lives in the Gulf prompted me to write and send. I did receive one letter that had a bit of scolding content within. The lady was a bit vrbal and told me. Why did you sent this letter long ago? That was a good one and I smile and apologized to her. Thank you all for your kind support. Ole Bob in Fla To all, Please accept this letter as a bit of protection for the future of our Genealogy. This letter is not to be crude but to give you a bit of information that may save someones life. If someone finds this not necessary to send to a Gen list, Please jump me to my e-mail address and not to a list. I can take your gripes and will just apologize and hope that you may never need this swimming tip which may save yours or family members life while swimming in the Gulf of Mexico. Ouch, That closing hurts doesn't it? Facts from this weekend This past weekend, The lives of 6 people were lost due to the undercurrents or better known as "RIP TIDES" found in the Gulf of Mexico. These drownings occured from Panama City, Fla to Pensacola, Fla. Pleae read on the net about the Undercurrent and write our beach Chamber of commerce or the Panama City beach Police Dept for excellent material about the "RIP TIDES" They are very anxious to tell all about the danger of the tides and what causes these. This is not a regular tide that EBBS and FLOWS one or two times a day. For your safety, I will not explain how this Rip Tide forms. It is best for you to obtain the approved information and go from there. I have pulled a husband and wife from the Gulf when the Rip Tide swept them about 40 feet off shore in a matter of seconds. These two people sit on the beach for a long time crying about their almost drowning. They were extremely tired from fighting the undercurrent. The wife was sinking and I got under her and pushed myself to the surface as fast as I could and sorta threw her almost out of the current. And then swam to the husband who had only his face out of the water. he was going under and the fast current would have swept him further out and he would have drowned. The beaches have flags of warnings out and one should obey the flag warnings and stay out of the water. There are patrols on most of the beaches but they can't be everywhere so its up to you to stay out of the water when these flags are on display. Please read this closely and get more information about this dangerous fast moving water. Water weighs 8.35 pounds per gallon. 1 cube of water is heavier than your car. If you do come to our area, Panama City Beach Fla, Call me and I will help you get all the informaton about this "RIP TIDE" available and will be more than happy to go to the beach and show you where these start stary and why. Hope I didn't get to rough explaining this but I feel it may open someones eyes and may save their life. Closing; If this letter saves lives, Your future families can do "GENEALOGY"of you and future additions to your family and ofcourse YOU. Right on Hermie! I have very special friend on one of thee lists that use our beaches with her Husband and two wonderful almost grown children and the first thing I preach to her is WATCH THE FLAGS. Bet she is tired of that. I am not tired of warning her tho. AM I right KIM? CAll 850-785-2583 and ask for myself Bob (Hermie) HAVE A GREAT GEN HUNT I sure do and have found two more cousins from my Sur name of Self. What a great feeling. And they are really great and good lookers. Both women ofcourse. :~) Ole Bob (Hermie) in Fla , ==== CREEK-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Visit the new Creek-SouthEast Home Page: http://www.nanations.com/creekm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237