Hi Glenda, I saw the 1st email and am familiar with the book However, I cannot comment on the accuracy. Like all books of this type, use them for clues and then search for facts to document the information. Sometimes the bibliography is worth more to me than the book itself. Jackie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Vol 3, Issue 231 Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:16:08 -0400 From: [email protected] Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Book on Alabama To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" BELOW IS A COPY OF ONE OF MY EMAILS POSTED ON ISSUE 231.? ( Sorry for the shouting but wanted to separate my 2 emails.? Thanks to anyone who might know.? Glenda **************************************************************************** ***************************** "Hi Richard and any who might know the answer to this question: I recently bought a DVD of a book:? The History of Clarke Co, Alabama, written by John Simpson Graham, pub. 1923. The book tells some of the genealogy, history and battles in the area namely the Battle of Burnt Corn.? He credits his information from Dr. Thomas G. Holmes, a survivor of the battle and others.? He mentions some briefly and others a little more in the book.? For example Choctaws, Creeks and Cherokees?in Clarke Co, roles of David Tait, Samuel Dale, Samuel Mims, Steve Tate a colored man, Peter McQueen, William Weatherford the son of Charles Weatherford, Sisemore's? (Sizemore?) plantation and ferry, Suggsville, Ala at the end of the Civil War and Miss Mattie Deas.? WW 1 - also mentioned Albert Deas and Ivy C. Deas. My question is:? has anyone else read this book and are the facts correct??? Thanks, Glenda" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1556 - Release Date: 7/16/2008 4:56 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.1/1559 - Release Date: 7/17/2008 6:08 PM

Hi Glenda, I haven't read it but would like to. Some of it is sounds right - some accounts say the volunteers camped near Sizemore's ferry the night before they intercepted the Redsticks at Burnt Corn. The boundary line at that time put his ferry in Clarke County. Suggsville is just above the location of Sizemore's Ferry. Don't know about the "at the end of the Civil War" thing. The Cherokees came from their territory to aid the Redsticks, another reason there was so much bad blood between the Creeks and Cherokees. The Choctaws tried to remain neutral at this point, but there were occasional crossing of paths between all three tribes when they were traveling through each other's territory. The Clarke County Historical Society has a lot of publications and accounts available and they are located at Suggsville. Where did you find the CD? Evelyn Glenda wrote; > I recently bought a DVD of a book:? The History of Clarke Co, Alabama, > written > by John Simpson Graham, pub. 1923. > > The book tells some of the genealogy, history and battles in the area > namely the > Battle of Burnt Corn.? He credits his information from Dr. Thomas G. > Holmes, a > survivor of the battle and others.? He mentions some briefly and others a > little > more in the book.? For example > > Choctaws, Creeks and Cherokees?in Clarke Co, > roles of David Tait, Samuel Dale, Samuel Mims, Steve Tate a colored man, > Peter > McQueen, William Weatherford the son of Charles Weatherford, Sisemore's? > (Sizemore?) plantation and ferry, Suggsville, Ala at the end of the Civil > War > and Miss Mattie Deas.? WW 1 - also mentioned Albert Deas and Ivy C. Deas. > > My question is:? has anyone else read this book and are the facts > correct??? > > Thanks, Glenda" > > >

Got it, Tim Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Timothy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:39 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] HAVING EMAIL PROBLEMS...PLEASE REPLY >I AM HAVING A STRANGE THING HAPPENING WITH MY EMAIL...TRYING TO FIND OUT >FROM ANYONE IF YOU GET THIS EMAIL....AND IF I CAN GET ONE BACK. > > ANYONE......IF YOU GET THIS, WILL YOU JUST LET KNOW WITH AN > REPLY....THANKS Tim T > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.1/1560 - Release Date: 7/18/2008 > 6:47 AM > > >

I'd like to know if Mattie Deas is kin to my gggrand daddy Jessie Deas/Dees and his son, my ggrand daddy Martin Dees. Do you happen to know? TT ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:05 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Vol 3, Issue 231 > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:16:08 -0400 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Book on Alabama > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > BELOW IS A COPY OF ONE OF MY EMAILS POSTED ON ISSUE 231.? ( Sorry for the > shouting but wanted to separate my 2 emails.? Thanks to anyone who might > know.? Glenda > ********************************************************************************************************* > > "Hi Richard and any who might know the answer to this question: > > > I recently bought a DVD of a book:? The History of Clarke Co, Alabama, > written > by John Simpson Graham, pub. 1923. > > The book tells some of the genealogy, history and battles in the area > namely the > Battle of Burnt Corn.? He credits his information from Dr. Thomas G. > Holmes, a > survivor of the battle and others.? He mentions some briefly and others a > little > more in the book.? For example > > Choctaws, Creeks and Cherokees?in Clarke Co, > roles of David Tait, Samuel Dale, Samuel Mims, Steve Tate a colored man, > Peter > McQueen, William Weatherford the son of Charles Weatherford, Sisemore's? > (Sizemore?) plantation and ferry, Suggsville, Ala at the end of the Civil > War > and Miss Mattie Deas.? WW 1 - also mentioned Albert Deas and Ivy C. Deas. > > My question is:? has anyone else read this book and are the facts > correct??? > > Thanks, Glenda" > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

THANKS.....SOMEHOW IT FIXED ITSELF! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Gipson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] HAVING EMAIL PROBLEMS...PLEASE REPLY > TT, > Got it here in Arkansas. Thanks, Sam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Timothy" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:39 PM > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] HAVING EMAIL PROBLEMS...PLEASE REPLY > > >>I AM HAVING A STRANGE THING HAPPENING WITH MY EMAIL...TRYING TO FIND OUT >>FROM ANYONE IF YOU GET THIS EMAIL....AND IF I CAN GET ONE BACK. >> >> ANYONE......IF YOU GET THIS, WILL YOU JUST LET KNOW WITH AN >> REPLY....THANKS Tim T >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Tim, You are comng through loud and clear. Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Timothy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:39 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] HAVING EMAIL PROBLEMS...PLEASE REPLY >I AM HAVING A STRANGE THING HAPPENING WITH MY EMAIL...TRYING TO FIND OUT >FROM ANYONE IF YOU GET THIS EMAIL....AND IF I CAN GET ONE BACK. > > ANYONE......IF YOU GET THIS, WILL YOU JUST LET KNOW WITH AN > REPLY....THANKS Tim T > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hadley is one of the Savannah River Creek families in my heritage. I wonder if Jane Hadley's parents came from northeastern Georgia or the South Carolina Pee Dees? Richard T. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:16:08 -0400 From: [email protected] Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Book on Alabama To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" BELOW IS A COPY OF ONE OF MY EMAILS POSTED ON ISSUE 231.? ( Sorry for the shouting but wanted to separate my 2 emails.? Thanks to anyone who might know.? Glenda ********************************************************************************************************* "Hi Richard and any who might know the answer to this question: I recently bought a DVD of a book:? The History of Clarke Co, Alabama, written by John Simpson Graham, pub. 1923. The book tells some of the genealogy, history and battles in the area namely the Battle of Burnt Corn.? He credits his information from Dr. Thomas G. Holmes, a survivor of the battle and others.? He mentions some briefly and others a little more in the book.? For example Choctaws, Creeks and Cherokees?in Clarke Co, roles of David Tait, Samuel Dale, Samuel Mims, Steve Tate a colored man, Peter McQueen, William Weatherford the son of Charles Weatherford, Sisemore's? (Sizemore?) plantation and ferry, Suggsville, Ala at the end of the Civil War and Miss Mattie Deas.? WW 1 - also mentioned Albert Deas and Ivy C. Deas. My question is:? has anyone else read this book and are the facts correct??? Thanks, Glenda"

Hi Richard - Jane Hadley's parents were Benjamin Hadley, b. 1760, Cumberland, NC; he married Betsy Kennerson in abt. 1809, Covington, MS (Sources: Hastie-Thompson book, History of Baldwin County book, and LDS records). Parents of Benjamin are Thomas Hadley, b. 1728, Newcastle, Delaware and Mary Thompson of Chester, PA. (Source: book, Hadley Genealogy). This particular line goes all the way back to Ireland, Scotland and England. Your Hadley could be one of the siblings who migrated to Georgia or SC and married into the Pee Dees. So much to learn. So little time. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:20 PM Hadley is one of the Savannah River Creek families in my heritage. I wonder if Jane Hadley's parents came from northeastern Georgia or the South Carolina Pee Dees? Richard T.

I AM HAVING A STRANGE THING HAPPENING WITH MY EMAIL...TRYING TO FIND OUT FROM ANYONE IF YOU GET THIS EMAIL....AND IF I CAN GET ONE BACK. ANYONE......IF YOU GET THIS, WILL YOU JUST LET KNOW WITH AN REPLY....THANKS Tim T

TT, Got it here in Arkansas. Thanks, Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Timothy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:39 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] HAVING EMAIL PROBLEMS...PLEASE REPLY >I AM HAVING A STRANGE THING HAPPENING WITH MY EMAIL...TRYING TO FIND OUT >FROM ANYONE IF YOU GET THIS EMAIL....AND IF I CAN GET ONE BACK. > > ANYONE......IF YOU GET THIS, WILL YOU JUST LET KNOW WITH AN > REPLY....THANKS Tim T > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Judy. TT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy White" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Index of Campbell's Abstract >I have provided week-end reading for all of you. The Index Campbells > Abstract is finished and all online > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/ I even found a couple of > Appendix at the end of the book that provided some interesting > reading. You might want to check them out also. > > When you find a name you are interested in, write down the number. In > the search enter that number, say it was M135, in the search at the > top of the page, enter that number. A page will come up with where > that number appears in the index. Use your browsers search to locate > the number on the page. If you do that to each of the pages that were > listed in the search, you just might get lucky and find several > ancestors. > > Please share this with anyone you think might be interested > > Good Luck > > Judy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Hastie-Thompson book says that Alexander MacGillivray Weatherford's second wife, Jane Hadley, b 1810 Miss Terr., had their only child together, Mary Hadley Weatherford, in 1841, which jibes with your 1860 Census. "she later married Elisha Boom (sic) 3/1851" p. 939 Levitia (Vicey) Moniac b. ca. 1854 marries John Francis Boone, b. 1853, who is son of John Jarvis Boone and Harriet Nancy Poston WHO LATER MARRIES Jane Dees P. 933 Minerva (Manac) Moniac, b.1860 marries Alexander Boone,b. 1855 Booneville AL son of John Jarvis Boone and Harriet Nancy Poston These must be JJB, Jr's ? I don't have anythng on Hathcock. gmw

Mvto Judy, Mvhayv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy White" >I have provided week-end reading for all of you. The Index Campbells > Abstract is finished and all online > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/ I even found a couple of > Appendix at the end of the book that provided some interesting > reading. You might want to check them out also. > > When you find a name you are interested in, write down the number. In > the search enter that number, say it was M135, in the search at the > top of the page, enter that number. A page will come up with where > that number appears in the index. Use your browsers search to locate > the number on the page. If you do that to each of the pages that were > listed in the search, you just might get lucky and find several > ancestors. > > Please share this with anyone you think might be interested > > Good Luck > > Judy >

I have provided week-end reading for all of you. The Index Campbells Abstract is finished and all online http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/ I even found a couple of Appendix at the end of the book that provided some interesting reading. You might want to check them out also. When you find a name you are interested in, write down the number. In the search enter that number, say it was M135, in the search at the top of the page, enter that number. A page will come up with where that number appears in the index. Use your browsers search to locate the number on the page. If you do that to each of the pages that were listed in the search, you just might get lucky and find several ancestors. Please share this with anyone you think might be interested Good Luck Judy

Yes, Hastie (Thompson) has: James Denny Driesbach b. 5-24-1816 Pickway Co., Circleville, OH of German descent, a Mason d. 10-7-1896, Little River, AL Served in U.S. Senate

Kathie, Glad you are passing some of these links along and I hope others decide to read them. I know you were already aware of the Sizemore groups that claim Melungeon (Portuguese/Indian mainly) and Sephardic Jews and quite a few other interesting origins through your genealogy research in the upper easterm states. Over the years I have read and studied and corresponded with many of the authors of such websites, just so I could form an opinion. While I do NOT agree with Stephen Pony Hill's comments on the Sizemore Creek families and emailed him to tell him so, I do think he has a lot of well-researched material on his site (and I did tell him, that, also....:-) Until we finally learn where Arthur Sizemore, halfblood Creek Indian's, ancestors were from, I just have to say I don't know and neither does anybody else at this point! With warm regards, Evelyn Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Stephen Pony Hill's Discussion on Mulatto > Here is another interesting discussion that includes the Carolinas: > > http://sciway3.net/clark/freemoors/ChapterTwo.htm > > KD > > >

Not all Creek peoples were pushed out of South Carolina. The PeeDee, who are Creek, still have several bands in South Carolina. I have found the name Hunt among our people, and it is also very common among the Lumbee. Michelle -----Original Message----- From: Carol Sircoulomb <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 2:31 pm Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] CREEK-SOUTHEASTSurname list I have been trying to think this question out for several days then I see the name Hunt I believe my great great great grand father may have a creek connection. His name was James Hunt born 1765 he was married to a woman named Sally He moved from South Carolina to Georgia I believe then moved to Tennesse about the time N.A. were kicked from Georgia. When were the Creek pushed out of South Carolina? I just am trying to figure this all out. Carol Reed Sircoulomb

for me it's the first time I've seen your address......sorry. Tim T ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:23 AM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Messages >I have sent several messages to this board and to date no response.? I was >wondering if they were getting thru.? Glenda > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Since we are recommending websites here are more : Coastal Carolina Indian Center - http://coastalcarolinaindians.com <http://coastalcarolinaindians.com/> lots of interesting stuff - one essay on Tuscarora war - historical melungeons - http://historicalmelungeons.blogspot.com <http://historicalmelungeons.blogspot.com/> lots of essays, links - latest on the Occaneechi, Saponi & Tutelo -- lumbee Indians and the Goins family - http://lumbeeindians and goinsfamily.blogspot.com - Steve Pony Hill's site already recommended - Essays on race & the one drop rule,etc Backintyme site of Frank Sweet - http://backintyme.com/essays Marcie