Thanks Evelyn for all of the information you have supplied. It's funny how you know exactly what I am looking into...Anna Bashers and Shippith Derwin from the Catholic baptismal records. Based upon the estimated year of birth for my ancestor Richard Tarvin (b. Abt 1760), Anna would have to be a sister (or at least a relative around the same age) to Zadoc Brashears (married to Susan Vaughn). The names Mary/Maria and Ann/Anna seem to run through Zadoc Brashears family. With regards to Dr. Marion Elisha Tarvin's hand drawn tree, I have found multiple errors. I tend to just use it as a guide. Plus that tree only shows the William II line (brother to my Richard Tarvin listed above). Many people confuse the 2 Elijahs on that tree with the Elijah in my line. Sometimes don't you just wish they could have come up with some unique names for their children...would be less confusing for us. I will let you know if I hear anything about this. Amanda > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:14:56 -0500 > From: "Evelyn S. Leslie" > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Brashears > To: > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Amanda, > I came up empty on Anna Brashears after searching through a lot of information > on the family - actually, I didn't even find anyone in that time frame that > might be a good candidate to be the Anna Bashers + Shippith Derwin (as > transcribed on the 1798 Catholic Baptisms for Tombigbee, Tensaw and Alabama > River Settlements.) I do see on that same transcribed record of baptisms a > Ledeck Bashears and Susanna Vaughn, which would be Zadoc Brashears and his wife, > Susan Vaughn, as the parents of child Maria Beshears, so it's entirely possible > Anna Bashers is a relative. I even looked on Dr. Tarvin's handdrawn tree and > just did not find anything on Brashears there, either. Maybe some Brashears > researcher will contact you with some information. Would you let me know if you > do turn up anything? You've got my curiosity up now! > Warm regards, > Evelyn >

Also, you might be considering that Anna could be Susanna or Hannah Bashers could be Brashears and Shippeth could be e.g. Jepeth or Joseph Derwin could be Tarvin Just "grasping at straws".... gmw

I hope you are considering that Anna could be Susanna Bashers could be Brashears and Shippeth could be e.g. Jepeth or Joseph Derwin could be Tarvin Just "grasping at straws".... gmw

Isn't there a Richard in Tallahassee, too? -- K On Aug 4, 2008, at 11:56 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Folks, > > When asking questions to one of the Richards, please add the B or > the T. > > Richard B. is the genealogy jock from Missouri (with family ties in > Oklahoma) > > Richard T. is the expert on recipes for cooking possum and turtle > from > Jawja - and is pretty much worthless when it comes to tracing > family names. > > Mvto > > Richard T. > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review? > ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CREEK- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Evelyn, Thank you very kindly for the nice information about the Brashears. This "could" fit with mine ,.. you mention them being French ,... the man Lester Blackman , my greatgrandmother Brashears married was French (also!). I think he was 2nd generation in America, his father listed as not speaking english on the fed census inquiry. I did not intend to say that our Brashears was Cherokee (only of the possibility). Brashears was my father's line,.. (Reagan, Barndard, Husky, Emmert, Ogle) was my mother's line that is Cherokee/Euchee Creek. The "skeletons" have really came out of the closet with this genealogy business, I think my relatives just did not know their family very well. I recently find in my father's mother's line (Moore) is her aunt was member of Dalton Gang , according to Emmett Dalton's book about the hard cases. Emmett gives her as Eugenia Moore , .. I have some letters and I think one from Eugenia from I.T. to her family (my father's grandmother) here in MO. I think it is good that we do not (R.I.P.) let them be forgotten. Thanks for your help. Richard (B.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn S. Leslie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Brashears > Hi Richard, > That's very interesting, thanks! I am not a Brashears researcher but > several of my close fellow researchers are/were, so we discussed them > quite a bit. The families that I am familiar with were Choctaw and Creek. > They were originally French Huguenot who fled to England to escape > Catholic persecution. Robert Brasseur was in Virginia by 1650 and moved > to Calvert Co., MD by 1658 and established himself and his family among > the "elite" and wealthy forefathers through the ensuing years, with > descendants moving down through PA and KY until they eventually reached > Natchez, MS. Benjamin Brashears received a Spanish grant for land near > Russum, MS. If you make the trek down the Natchez Trace, the site of > Brashear's Stand is one of the historical points located just above > Jackson, MS. It was advertised as "a house of entertainment in the > wilderness" to travelers in 1806. You can see a portion of the old trace, > sunken wagon road, nearby and the MS Crafts Center is located nearby! > , also. It's really a very scenic area around a huge reservoir. One of > Benjamin's sons, Turner Brashears, married a Choctaw Indian woman and was > a Choctaw interpreter for Benjamin Hawkins. This family was very involved > in Indian trade and the government factory houses along the MS/AL border > areas, dealing with Choctaw and Creeks, mainly, but also some Chickasaw. > I don't recall reading anything about a Cherokee connection in this bunch, > but I only became familiar with these lines that were in Creek/Choctaw > country. > Regards, > Evelyn > > Richard wrote: > I am not up with your conversation, but my great grandmother was Margaret > Brashears. I have not researched her further back than she married my > great > grandfather Lester Blackman in 1876 in MO. He was from NY state and I > think > she was from the southeast . I think some of the Brashears in this area > went to Ind territory Oklahoma turn of century,.. I suspect them of > Cherokee. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

On those diseases, smallpox was a big one. As a child growing up, I lived with elders who were still traumatized by that and who would almost jump out of their skins at the mere mention of the word 'smallpox.' People died, whole families at one time. Communities could be literally wiped out overnight. That's why I take the concept of bioterrorism quite seriously. And when the CDC talks about smallpox being 'eradicated,' I don't believe it for a second. Deborah On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:21:59 EDT, TalliyaSoutheast wrote > OKAY Brother Richard from the monastery in Talking Rock, Jawja will > set you straight. In 1542 the capital of the Kusaw people was in a > large town at the edge of the Cohutta Mountains between modern day > Jasper and Chatsworth. I live in Jasper, GA. It controlled a > region stretching about 400 miles across from Knoxville to > Birmingham. When the Spanish passed through Kusa Talwamikko, they > left behind bacteria and viruses, which eventually killed off about > 90-95% of their population. The survivors thought the land was > cursed, and so they moved down stream on the Coosa River and re- > established towns. The Kusaw looked different than the Muskogee, > Apalachicola and Hitchiti Creeks. They still do. > > When the Kusaw were based in Georgia, most of Alabama was occupied > by the Alabama and Choctaw peoples, plus some people that have > been forgotten. They also suffered catastrophic population losses. > Some Alabama merged with the Creek immigrants, others moved > farther west. > > Richard T. > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up > for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CREEK- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --

Links, Bibliographies, Proven Research Strategies, Research Facilities, Book Reviews, Useful Indian Rolls (online and elsewhere) All these add up to the Creek Research Page which Judy will set up soon. If you have research helps to contribute you can send them direct to me or post them on this mailing list. PLEASE PUT "CREEK RESEARCH PAGE" IN THE SUBJECT LINE. I've been collecting things for a couple of weeks now and will continue until near the end of summer when the page will officially go up. We can add to it after that, too. What we plan is a resources checklist showing what is available, where it is available, whether or not it is free. Additionally, there will be a "How To" tutorial link or two for beginners; also narratives of successful research strategies (YOUR research experiences), if you would like to share them. Thanks, Kathie

Hi Richard, That's very interesting, thanks! I am not a Brashears researcher but several of my close fellow researchers are/were, so we discussed them quite a bit. The families that I am familiar with were Choctaw and Creek. They were originally French Huguenot who fled to England to escape Catholic persecution. Robert Brasseur was in Virginia by 1650 and moved to Calvert Co., MD by 1658 and established himself and his family among the "elite" and wealthy forefathers through the ensuing years, with descendants moving down through PA and KY until they eventually reached Natchez, MS. Benjamin Brashears received a Spanish grant for land near Russum, MS. If you make the trek down the Natchez Trace, the site of Brashear's Stand is one of the historical points located just above Jackson, MS. It was advertised as "a house of entertainment in the wilderness" to travelers in 1806. You can see a portion of the old trace, sunken wagon road, nearby and the MS Crafts Center is located nearby, also. It's really a very scenic area around a huge reservoir. One of Benjamin's sons, Turner Brashears, married a Choctaw Indian woman and was a Choctaw interpreter for Benjamin Hawkins. This family was very involved in Indian trade and the government factory houses along the MS/AL border areas, dealing with Choctaw and Creeks, mainly, but also some Chickasaw. I don't recall reading anything about a Cherokee connection in this bunch, but I only became familiar with these lines that were in Creek/Choctaw country. Regards, Evelyn Richard wrote: I am not up with your conversation, but my great grandmother was Margaret Brashears. I have not researched her further back than she married my great grandfather Lester Blackman in 1876 in MO. He was from NY state and I think she was from the southeast . I think some of the Brashears in this area went to Ind territory Oklahoma turn of century,.. I suspect them of Cherokee.

Please unsubscirbe me, this is my fourth request [email protected] -------------- Original message from [email protected]: -------------- > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Jimey Holloway (Ghostdance) > 2. Re: Sehoys and Weatherfords ([email protected]) > 3. Re: Brashears and Dees ([email protected]) > 4. Re: Author of the book, True Women ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:59:26 -0500 > From: "Ghostdance" > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Jimey Holloway > To: , > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > A while back I came across a photo on the internet of Jimey Holloway (1832 > Creek Census), who we believe to be our relative. I recently did a search > and was unable to locate the photo again. Does anyone know were to find his > photo and hopefully more info on him? > > A big Mvto! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:54:32 -0500 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Sehoys and Weatherfords > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello, "Cousin" ! > > Are you related to any of Martin Weatherford's (b. 1726, VA) children? > which? > > Do you know when and where Charles Weatherford, b. 1752 Lunenberg > VA---Red Eagle's father--is buried? > > I'm also related, for sure, to another line which came to Texas in 1848, > and for whom Weatherford, TX was named. > > How did you find out that you were Creek and related to the Sehoys and > Weatherfords??? > > This is GREAT !! > > Please reply, > > gmw > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:22:30 -0500 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Brashears and Dees > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello, > > NOTE: There's a woman out there named Kathy who has a huge site. She's > just "decided" that Charles Weatherford, b. 1752, was married to her > Wright relative and that they gave birth to a Catherine Georgia > Weatherford. > > I've seen NOTHING to substantiate this. > > There is no Brashear in the Indices or Bibliography of the > Hastie-Thompson book on Red Eagle; however, there IS a > "Brazier's Landing" (later French's Landing), between the Tombigbee and > the Alabama Rivers, SE of Fort Madison, AL War of 1812. My Eggleston > book spells it Brasier's Landing. > > We have a Dees relative and a Sizemore relative on this List. I'm > interested in Weatherfords. > > Welcome! > > gmw > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:09:57 -0500 > From: > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Author of the book, True Women > To: , > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Glenn, > Thank you so much for the tour of Seguin. I really enjoyed all the > information.I don't really know much about Texas, my Collins family were > early settlers of a Gonzales County, Texas. They are buried in Antioch > Cemetery, Gonzales County, Texas. Is this Seguin close to by? > Joan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenn Faulk" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:28 AM > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Author of the book, True Women > > > I was looking for the book and suddenly realized that the story takes place > about 35 miles down the road from me in Seguin,Gonzales County, Texas. Here > is a link to some of the sites mentioned in the book. If any of you make it > to the San Antonio area and would like to drive out and visit the sites > firsthand, let me know. I'd be glad to be tour guide around Seguin. > > http://www.seguin.net/truwomen.html > > Kindest Regards, > Glenn > > > > --- On Thu, 7/31/08, [email protected] wrote: > > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Author of the book, True Women > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 10:25 AM > > thank you. > Joan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:10 PM > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Author of the book, True Women > > > > The author of "True Women" is Janice Woods Windle. > > > > The woman on the cover of the book is the Creek grand-daughter of Benjamin > > Hawkins, who was played by Angeline Jolet in the movie. > > > > The book retails for $7.99 > > > > > > Janice Woods Windle is a Texas author. Windle was born in _Seguin, Texas_ > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seguin,_Texas) and currently lives in _El > Paso, > > Texas_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Paso,_Texas) . > > Windle's first two novels, _True Women_ > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Women) and Hill Country and her first > published work, the True Women Cookbook, > > all became best sellers[_citation needed_ > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed) ] and are based > on extensive research into Windle's > > ancestors. > > _True Women_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Women) , Windle's > second > > novel, revealed the stories of Texas women who were caught up in the > passions of > > war and revolution. _True Women_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Women) > > was published in eight different languages and also became the basis for > a CBS > > miniseries starring _Angelina Jolie_ > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelina_Jolie) , _Dana Delaney_ > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Delaney) , and > > _Annabeth Gish_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annabeth_Gish) . > > Windle's latest novel is _Will's War_ > (http://www.jwwbooks.com/books.html) > , > > based on the life of her grandfather. > > Windle attended the _University of Texas_ > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas) where she was a > member of _Alpha Phi_ > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Phi) sorority.[_citation needed_ > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed) ] She has earned > many academic honors including > > _Mortar Board_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortar_Board) and the > _American > > Association of University Women_ > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Association_of_University_Women) > 's > "Woman of the Year." 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I am not up with your conversation, but my great grandmother was Margaret Brashears. I have not researched her further back than she married my great grandfather Lester Blackman in 1876 in MO. He was from NY state and I think she was from the southeast . I think some of the Brashears in this area went to Ind territory Oklahoma turn of century,.. I suspect them of Cherokee. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn S. Leslie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:14 AM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Brashears > Amanda, > I came up empty on Anna Brashears after searching through a lot of > information on the family - actually, I didn't even find anyone in that > time frame that might be a good candidate to be the Anna Bashers + > Shippith Derwin (as transcribed on the 1798 Catholic Baptisms for > Tombigbee, Tensaw and Alabama River Settlements.) I do see on that same > transcribed record of baptisms a Ledeck Bashears and Susanna Vaughn, which > would be Zadoc Brashears and his wife, Susan Vaughn, as the parents of > child Maria Beshears, so it's entirely possible Anna Bashers is a > relative. I even looked on Dr. Tarvin's handdrawn tree and just did not > find anything on Brashears there, either. Maybe some Brashears researcher > will contact you with some information. Would you let me know if you do > turn up anything? You've got my curiosity up now! > Warm regards, > Evelyn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

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Amanda, I came up empty on Anna Brashears after searching through a lot of information on the family - actually, I didn't even find anyone in that time frame that might be a good candidate to be the Anna Bashers + Shippith Derwin (as transcribed on the 1798 Catholic Baptisms for Tombigbee, Tensaw and Alabama River Settlements.) I do see on that same transcribed record of baptisms a Ledeck Bashears and Susanna Vaughn, which would be Zadoc Brashears and his wife, Susan Vaughn, as the parents of child Maria Beshears, so it's entirely possible Anna Bashers is a relative. I even looked on Dr. Tarvin's handdrawn tree and just did not find anything on Brashears there, either. Maybe some Brashears researcher will contact you with some information. Would you let me know if you do turn up anything? You've got my curiosity up now! Warm regards, Evelyn

Glenn, Thank you so much for the tour of Seguin. I really enjoyed all the information.I don't really know much about Texas, my Collins family were early settlers of a Gonzales County, Texas. They are buried in Antioch Cemetery, Gonzales County, Texas. Is this Seguin close to by? Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Faulk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Author of the book, True Women I was looking for the book and suddenly realized that the story takes place about 35 miles down the road from me in Seguin,Gonzales County, Texas. Here is a link to some of the sites mentioned in the book. If any of you make it to the San Antonio area and would like to drive out and visit the sites firsthand, let me know. I'd be glad to be tour guide around Seguin. http://www.seguin.net/truwomen.html Kindest Regards, Glenn --- On Thu, 7/31/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Author of the book, True Women To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 10:25 AM thank you. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Author of the book, True Women > The author of "True Women" is Janice Woods Windle. > > The woman on the cover of the book is the Creek grand-daughter of Benjamin > Hawkins, who was played by Angeline Jolet in the movie. > > The book retails for $7.99 > > > Janice Woods Windle is a Texas author. Windle was born in _Seguin, Texas_ > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seguin,_Texas) and currently lives in _El Paso, > Texas_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Paso,_Texas) . > Windle's first two novels, _True Women_ > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Women) and Hill Country and her first published work, the True Women Cookbook, > all became best sellers[_citation needed_ > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed) ] and are based on extensive research into Windle's > ancestors. > _True Women_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Women) , Windle's second > novel, revealed the stories of Texas women who were caught up in the passions of > war and revolution. _True Women_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Women) > was published in eight different languages and also became the basis for a CBS > miniseries starring _Angelina Jolie_ > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelina_Jolie) , _Dana Delaney_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Delaney) , and > _Annabeth Gish_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annabeth_Gish) . > Windle's latest novel is _Will's War_ (http://www.jwwbooks.com/books.html) , > based on the life of her grandfather. > Windle attended the _University of Texas_ > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas) where she was a member of _Alpha Phi_ > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Phi) sorority.[_citation needed_ > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed) ] She has earned many academic honors including > _Mortar Board_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortar_Board) and the _American > Association of University Women_ > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Association_of_University_Women) 's "Woman of the Year." She is also a Father of > Texas Awards recipient and the Texas Legislature passed a bill commending her > on her superb contributions to the citizens of Texas. > > > Richard T. > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, NOTE: There's a woman out there named Kathy who has a huge site. She's just "decided" that Charles Weatherford, b. 1752, was married to her Wright relative and that they gave birth to a Catherine Georgia Weatherford. I've seen NOTHING to substantiate this. There is no Brashear in the Indices or Bibliography of the Hastie-Thompson book on Red Eagle; however, there IS a "Brazier's Landing" (later French's Landing), between the Tombigbee and the Alabama Rivers, SE of Fort Madison, AL War of 1812. My Eggleston book spells it Brasier's Landing. We have a Dees relative and a Sizemore relative on this List. I'm interested in Weatherfords. Welcome! gmw

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: awesomemnms Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3016/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have been told that my grandmother had a grandparent who was from the Creek nation. Her parents were Samuel William Penner & Sarah Elizabeth Knight of Arkansas. Her maternal grandfather was James A. Knight (1878-1911)and his mother was Sarah J. (1838-1930). In the 1920 census Sarah E. was living in Sarah J.'s household in Arkansas. A 19 year old young man named Elijah was also in the household. I am not sure if he was Sarah E.'s brother or a cousin. Living on both sides of Sarah J. were Goad families. I know from some cemetery notes of my grandmother's that they are related, but I have not determined how. Does anyone have any informaion on James A. Knight? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, "Cousin" ! Are you related to any of Martin Weatherford's (b. 1726, VA) children? which? Do you know when and where Charles Weatherford, b. 1752 Lunenberg VA---Red Eagle's father--is buried? I'm also related, for sure, to another line which came to Texas in 1848, and for whom Weatherford, TX was named. How did you find out that you were Creek and related to the Sehoys and Weatherfords??? This is GREAT !! Please reply, gmw

I have two questions for people: (1) Brashears I recently came across some information that may connect my ancestors to the Brashears family. I have seen various things on the web that state the Brashears family was Choctaw, while others say they were Creek. So I am looking for more information on an Anna Brashears. She was living in the Alabama, Tombigbee or Tensaw settlements in 1789. She had a daughter named Maria baptized that year. I have seen a lot of information on a Zadoc Brashears, but I do not know if they were related or not. Most of the information I have on him say that he was MOWA Choctaw. My ancestor Richard Tarvin/Turvin, who was Creek, lived on the Washington Co., AL side of the river. His brother William Tarvin/Turvin lived on the other side near Tensaw. Richard's neighbor was Adam Hollinger. (2) Dees For all of you Dees descendants out there, have you come across any connections to Mountville, Troup Co., GA? My gggg-grandmother was Elizabeth Dees (b. 1805, Mountvile, Troup, GA; d. 01 Oct 1872, Tarentum, Pike, AL). I have been mostly reasearching my Tarvin ancestors and their connections to Sizemore, Bailey, Stiggins, Weatherford, Boone, etc. My Dees connection is on the other side of the family, Galloway. What intrigued me is that one of my grandmother's cousins participated in the Tarvin DNA Project and they returned a percentage Native American greater than I have proven in my research. We asked him to participate because his father was my g-grandmothers' brother and his mother was my g-grandfathers' sister. So there is someone else out there that was also Native American. I figured I would start with Elizabeth Dees, since she was born in a Creek laden area of GA. I also need to delve a little further into the Wright and Todd connections as well. Thanks, Amanda

Whoops, Rachel Brashears was Rachel Durant, daughter of Sophia Mcgillivray, Alexander's sister. I previously stated in error that Rachel was Alexander's sister but she was his niece.......sorry! It's been awhile since I was involved in researching these families and I know better than rely on memory. Evelyn

Amanda, the Brashears were both Choctaw and Creek related. Samuel Brashears was the first husband of Rachel McGillivray (sister of Creek leader Alexander McGilivray.) He received land under the Treaty of Ft. Jackson 1814 as a "friendly Creek" in the Tensaw area. Zadock Brashears was his brother and his ties were to the Choctaw. He was a signer of the Dancing Rabbit Treaty and was "rewarded" with a lot of land, located in what is now Sumpter Co., AL. His son, Jesse, married Delilie, a daughter of Chief John Charles Juzan, so you can see right away the Mobile area connection. My information on the family is from Prof. Woodie Wallace, a dear friend of many of us who passed away last year at the age of 95. He had spent a lifetime researching his McGillivray and Brashears families and their connections. I have quite a bit of correspondence from him over the years and I will look through it tonight to see if I can help pinpoint Anna Brashears and daughter, Maria. Evelyn > Amanda wrote: > I recently came across some information that may connect my ancestors to > the Brashears family. I have seen various things on the web that state the > Brashears family was Choctaw, while others say they were Creek. So I am > looking for more information on an Anna Brashears. She was living in the > Alabama, Tombigbee or Tensaw settlements in 1789. She had a daughter named > Maria baptized that year. > > I have seen a lot of information on a Zadoc Brashears, but I do not know > if they were related or not. Most of the information I have on him say > that he was MOWA Choctaw. My ancestor Richard Tarvin/Turvin, who was > Creek, lived on the Washington Co., AL side of the river. His brother > William Tarvin/Turvin lived on the other side near Tensaw. Richard's > neighbor was Adam Hollinger> >

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