Thats interesting, did not know any of that. Thanks. Richard B. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Fried Sweet Potatos are a traditional Creek food > Hey Richard B. > > There is a Native Sweet Potato in the Southeast that was eaten by the > Creeks. That is why there was a "Potato Clan." It was either baked in > coals or > fried in hickory nut oil. The indigenous Sweet Potato like its South > American > cousin (which is cultivated now) was a member of the Morning Glory > family. > The flowers and leafs are almost identical to a Morning Glory, but form a > bush > shape like a bean plant. The Southeastern Sweet Potato only has one > potato > per plant, whereas the South American cultivated Sweet Potato has > multiple > potato. > > Richard T. > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

It is amazing the knowledge that is shared on this site, Leon, and I appreciate so much knowing more about the Oconaluftee group. Thank you On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Leon Beard wrote: > > Please keep in mind that the core group of ancestors of the Eastern > Band of Cherokees were the Oconaluftee group who had seperated from > the Cherokee nation some 20 years before the Removal, they had > accepted the 640 acre reservation granted to the head of each > household, and North Carolina citizenship, it was a total of 49 > families and I think their names appear on the reservation roll. > they were exempt from the Removal, and during the removal were > hesitant about taking in any Cherokee Refugees hiding out from the > soldiers to avoid removal. > I think that after the removal some Cherokee families who had > avoided removal did merge with the Oconaluftee Band, but many > families did not, and probably never came forward when later tribal > rolls were taken for the Eastern Band of Cherokees > > --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Sam Gipson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Sam Gipson <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Need help with a mystery >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 10:55 PM >> Thank you for the information Richard. >> I will check the Baker Rolls. Think I have >> already done that. >> >> Tks, Sam Arkansas >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "csmoke" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Need help with a mystery >> >> >>> Yes, >>> early decades of 1800 to 1836 , Cherokees were in the >> southeast. When >>> this >>> govt removed about 16,000 to Oklahoma Territory ( >> about 1/4 of that number >>> died on the trail.. and of course did not arrive.) >>> >>> During your time slot.... 1817 to about 1828 , there >> were Cherokees >>> resettling to north central Arkansas (reservation >> land..) . And , just >>> prior to removal in 1835/36/37 , about 1100 or so in >> the southeast >>> "escaped >>> to the hills" rather than be removed. These >> 1100 are the Eastern >>> Cherokees >>> and many family names will later show up on their roll >> .. the Baker Roll. >>> >>> Richard B. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "CheeryFats" >> <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:06 PM >>> Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Need help with a mystery >>> >>> >>>> In 1824 in Early County, GA, Elizabeth Boles >> married Abraham Warren. >>>> Abraham is a ggggguncle of mine. Just a few >> months ago I met, over >>>> the internet, a direct descendant of Elizabeth and >> Abraham (and >>>> several other folks, from whom I descend too). My >> new-found cousin >>>> wanted to know if I had any info on Elizabeth, who >> was American >>>> Indian according to family lore. I didn't >> even know her last name, >>>> so my new-found cousin was way ahead of me. And >> that is how I have >>>> become interested in these Boles. >>>> >>>> Elizabeth and Abraham moved to Coffee County, AL >> and spent several >>>> decades there, then followed their children to >> Henderson County, TX. >>>> The last time I can find them in the census is in >> 1870 in Athens, >>>> Henderson County, TX., though in 1880 Elizabeth >> (then a widow) was >>>> living with their son James. >>>> >>>> There were other Boles in Coffee County, AL during >> those early years, >>>> but there were many more in Henderson County, TX, >> and they were >>>> living near (because they were related through >> marriages) some >>>> Cadenheads. >>>> >>>> I figured that the Boles in Early County GA, >> Coffee County AL and >>>> Henderson County TX were most likely Creeks. >> Indeed, an early (no >>>> pun intended) brief history of Early County, GA >> stated that: >>>> >>>> "Unlike the other counties, it [Early] had >> within its borders a few >>>> Indian towns, where some small bodies of >> "Creeks" had their homes." >>>> >> http://genforum.genealogy.com/sheffield/messages/1936.html >>>> >>>> As I continued searching, I came across >> information that the >>>> Henderson County TX Boles, along with the >> Cadenheads who were their >>>> relatives and neighbors, were Cherokees. Data I >> have seen over the >>>> internet (not the actual documents) includes this >> example: >>>> >>>> "BOLES/CADENHEAD APPLICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP, >> CHEROKEE NATION 1896 >>>> All persons named in this application are members >> of one large >>>> extended family, related by blood and marriage. >> This information was >>>> received from the National Archives in Fort Worth, >> Texas. It >>>> consisted of 42 legal size photocopied pages of >> documents relating to >>>> the applications and appeal of denied citizenship. >> Denial was based >>>> on the fact that James Boles' name was not on >> one of the official >>>> Cherokee Census rolls taken in 1835, 1848, 1851 or >> 1852 and that >>>> James Boles never resided in Indian Territory. All >> persons named in >>>> this are all members of one extended family and >> the report proves >>>> thier lineage and relationship to each >> other." >>>> >>>> This application contained numerous statements >> from witnesses that >>>> the Boles and Cadenheads involved were indeed >> Cherokee. >>>> >>>> Now back to Elizabeth Boles who married my Abraham >> Warren. I have >>>> gotten no further in determining her ancestry, let >> alone whether she >>>> was related to the Boles who were in Henderson >> County, TX, though >>>> there is a hint or two that she may have been. >> What I would >>>> appreciate knowing from any of you is whether >> there is any record of >>>> the names of the Creek families who supposedly >> were in Early County >>>> GA in the first few decades of 1800. And, while >> this seems far- >>>> fetched to me, do any of you know if any Cherokees >> were there at that >>>> time? >>>> >>>> Many thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to >>>> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CREEK- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Richard, did any of the Creeks eat ramps/wild leeks ? --- On Sun, 8/17/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Fried Sweet Potatos are a traditional Creek food > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 10:32 PM > Hey Richard B. > > There is a Native Sweet Potato in the Southeast that was > eaten by the > Creeks. That is why there was a "Potato Clan." > It was either baked in coals or > fried in hickory nut oil. The indigenous Sweet Potato like > its South American > cousin (which is cultivated now) was a member of the > Morning Glory family. > The flowers and leafs are almost identical to a Morning > Glory, but form a bush > shape like a bean plant. The Southeastern Sweet Potato > only has one potato > per plant, whereas the South American cultivated Sweet > Potato has multiple > potato. > > Richard T. > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and > fits in your budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Please keep in mind that the core group of ancestors of the Eastern Band of Cherokees were the Oconaluftee group who had seperated from the Cherokee nation some 20 years before the Removal, they had accepted the 640 acre reservation granted to the head of each household, and North Carolina citizenship, it was a total of 49 families and I think their names appear on the reservation roll. they were exempt from the Removal, and during the removal were hesitant about taking in any Cherokee Refugees hiding out from the soldiers to avoid removal. I think that after the removal some Cherokee families who had avoided removal did merge with the Oconaluftee Band, but many families did not, and probably never came forward when later tribal rolls were taken for the Eastern Band of Cherokees --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Sam Gipson <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Sam Gipson <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Need help with a mystery > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 10:55 PM > Thank you for the information Richard. > I will check the Baker Rolls. Think I have > already done that. > > Tks, Sam Arkansas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "csmoke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:10 PM > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Need help with a mystery > > > > Yes, > > early decades of 1800 to 1836 , Cherokees were in the > southeast. When > > this > > govt removed about 16,000 to Oklahoma Territory ( > about 1/4 of that number > > died on the trail.. and of course did not arrive.) > > > > During your time slot.... 1817 to about 1828 , there > were Cherokees > > resettling to north central Arkansas (reservation > land..) . And , just > > prior to removal in 1835/36/37 , about 1100 or so in > the southeast > > "escaped > > to the hills" rather than be removed. These > 1100 are the Eastern > > Cherokees > > and many family names will later show up on their roll > .. the Baker Roll. > > > > Richard B. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "CheeryFats" > <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:06 PM > > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Need help with a mystery > > > > > >> In 1824 in Early County, GA, Elizabeth Boles > married Abraham Warren. > >> Abraham is a ggggguncle of mine. Just a few > months ago I met, over > >> the internet, a direct descendant of Elizabeth and > Abraham (and > >> several other folks, from whom I descend too). My > new-found cousin > >> wanted to know if I had any info on Elizabeth, who > was American > >> Indian according to family lore. I didn't > even know her last name, > >> so my new-found cousin was way ahead of me. And > that is how I have > >> become interested in these Boles. > >> > >> Elizabeth and Abraham moved to Coffee County, AL > and spent several > >> decades there, then followed their children to > Henderson County, TX. > >> The last time I can find them in the census is in > 1870 in Athens, > >> Henderson County, TX., though in 1880 Elizabeth > (then a widow) was > >> living with their son James. > >> > >> There were other Boles in Coffee County, AL during > those early years, > >> but there were many more in Henderson County, TX, > and they were > >> living near (because they were related through > marriages) some > >> Cadenheads. > >> > >> I figured that the Boles in Early County GA, > Coffee County AL and > >> Henderson County TX were most likely Creeks. > Indeed, an early (no > >> pun intended) brief history of Early County, GA > stated that: > >> > >> "Unlike the other counties, it [Early] had > within its borders a few > >> Indian towns, where some small bodies of > "Creeks" had their homes." > >> > http://genforum.genealogy.com/sheffield/messages/1936.html > >> > >> As I continued searching, I came across > information that the > >> Henderson County TX Boles, along with the > Cadenheads who were their > >> relatives and neighbors, were Cherokees. Data I > have seen over the > >> internet (not the actual documents) includes this > example: > >> > >> "BOLES/CADENHEAD APPLICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP, > CHEROKEE NATION 1896 > >> All persons named in this application are members > of one large > >> extended family, related by blood and marriage. > This information was > >> received from the National Archives in Fort Worth, > Texas. It > >> consisted of 42 legal size photocopied pages of > documents relating to > >> the applications and appeal of denied citizenship. > Denial was based > >> on the fact that James Boles' name was not on > one of the official > >> Cherokee Census rolls taken in 1835, 1848, 1851 or > 1852 and that > >> James Boles never resided in Indian Territory. All > persons named in > >> this are all members of one extended family and > the report proves > >> thier lineage and relationship to each > other." > >> > >> This application contained numerous statements > from witnesses that > >> the Boles and Cadenheads involved were indeed > Cherokee. > >> > >> Now back to Elizabeth Boles who married my Abraham > Warren. I have > >> gotten no further in determining her ancestry, let > alone whether she > >> was related to the Boles who were in Henderson > County, TX, though > >> there is a hint or two that she may have been. > What I would > >> appreciate knowing from any of you is whether > there is any record of > >> the names of the Creek families who supposedly > were in Early County > >> GA in the first few decades of 1800. And, while > this seems far- > >> fetched to me, do any of you know if any Cherokees > were there at that > >> time? > >> > >> Many thanks. > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

If fried green tomatoes and sweet potatoes chips (yes, chips like a potato chip but from sweet potatoes) make you an NA, I might be one after all. Could I be a Cherocreek??? S -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM

Hooray. Maybe that will make me a kin to a Cherokee or Choctaw, or someone who is NA. Tks, Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Sokol" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Fried Sweet Potatos are a traditionalCreekfood > If fried green tomatoes and sweet potatoes chips (yes, chips like a > potato chip but from sweet potatoes) make you an NA, I might be one > after all. Could I be a Cherocreek??? > > S > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 > 12:58 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Richard, Scots and Scots-Irish were all over the early American Colonies... having been among the first colonial settlers that immigrated from England ... many may have been indentured servants or just individual families seeking religious freedom, those that broke ties with England; many were among the first families that left the eastern shore colonies and began the western and southeastern migrations into the new territories, particularly to GA and AL. In tracing your great-grandmother's lineage, you will have quite a challenge, but beginning I think with her "maiden" name.... which may or may not tell you very much, since she may not have used the name of her father, but consider the surnames of families in the community where she lived. Early church records or names of churches established in her community might offer strong clues. Annette ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:19:54 AM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Does anybody have information on my Scottish ancestors? Hey, I am new to this web site. I think I am part white - Scottish to be exact - but I can't prove it. The census records only give the race of my Creek ancestors. The others have blank spaces for race. There is a story in my family that my great-grandmother Janie Mae had some Scottish blood. She never would talk about it though. Folks would ask her if she was part Scottish. She would only say, "I don't want to talk about it. The English treated my ancestors like dirt back in Scotland." Richard T. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, This is a great addition to your site! It certainly adds some new insight into the Indian Home Guard. There are a lot of familiar halfblood names such as Grayson, Perryman, Barnett, just to name a few, and very fascinating reading. Thank you! Warm regards, Evelyn Leslie

There are zillions of Indian potatoes growing in back of my house! The city put in a sewer line and the Indian potatoes came up along the edge of the graded right of way. Many of the plants that come up naturally in the Southeast when land is disturbed are actually former domesticated plants cultivated by the Indians. The wild ancestor of the Jerusalem artichoke is a sunflower about two feet tall - which also grows here, but has tiny potatoes. The "selectively improved" Creek version grows up to seven feet tall and produced 1-2 pounds of potatoes. Richard T. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 )

I'm familiar with the Jerusalem Artichoke, as most of the people from the "country" in SC would load me up with Artichoke Relish they make each year and can...I like it with pepper heat applied. I will get with a golfing buddy that is a retired state plant and conservation man to see what the leaves look like...now, I'm curious. I still have some from 10 years ago....had a lot! Figs were another thing I got as a gift lots of times. Turkey Figs mostly. I had read about the Potato Clan Legend just a few days ago. Based on the Legend, all of us that are mixed blood and have no Clan that we know of are, for ceremony purposes, a member of the Potato Clan? :) Is there any recorded information about who was in which clan? Next time holler...I'll ship you some potatoes! TT ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:25 AM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Also a white indigenous potato > Tim > > There is also a white indigenous potato, but it has a different name in > Mvskoke than the true sweet potato. This white potato is also know today > as the > Jerusalem artichoke. It is a member of the sunflower family. In the > upper > Piedmont and Southern Highlands, it is a ubiquitous wild flower on the > sides of > roads and edges of pastures and fields. This past year I ate quite a few > when I had no income. > > Richard T. > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I posted this quiz on a single's dating web site yesterday. Obvious that I won't find a significant other in this degenerate edge of Metro Atlanta! Sadly, not one American lady has scored over 25% on the test. The highest score (65) came from a lady in Mayland, Australia. Everyone missed question 20. I would hope that Creeks could do better, since we were once master farmers. If you want the answers contact me on my regular email address, since this is not normal material for the Creek-Southeast message board. Richard T. Could You Live Off the Land? 1) The bud of the asparagus plant has contains more protein than any other vegetable? Yes No 2) Asparagus plants should be planted in what material in order to survive and be prolific? Sand Gravel Georgia Clay Manure 3) The correct name for a female dairy goat is? Doe Ewe Nanny Sow 4) What does "freshening" mean on a farm? Putting lime on manure Painting the barn When a dairy animal has babies Spreading lime on the garden 5) A goose primarily eats grass? Yes No 6) Corn seed should be planted when? In the Fall so it can have an early start the next Spring As soon as the ground thaws After the Summer solstice After the last Spring frost 7) What important by-product of curing manure is usually wasted by American farmers? Calcium deposits Worms for fishermen Natural antibiotics Methane gas 8) Which vegetable is most likely to cause botulism food poisoning if canned improperly? Green beans Tomatoes Sweet pickles Dill pickles 9) Which of the following plants are by far the most nutritious fodder for dairy goats and cows? Kudzu Kentucky 31 Fescue Oat hay Corn stalks 10) Which type of wood is the best for starting a fire in a wood stove? Black Locust Tulip Poplar Yellow Pine Sumac 11) Which of these woods make the longest burning coals in your wood stove? There are two correct answers. Black Cherry Yellow Pine Black Locust Red Cedar 12) Spinach seedlings can be planted before the last Spring frost? Yes No 13) Sugar Snap Peas love the hot summer sun and should not be planted too early in the Spring when the nights are cool? True False 14) When is the best time to butcher a hog? Full Moon in June New Moon in August Late Fall after a frost Coldest day in January 15) Herd dogs and dairy goats get very nervous the day before a major snow storm rolls in? Yes No 16) Lye is made by? Running rainwater through ashes Cooking down chitlings Heating powered limestone until red hot Mixing ammonia with chlorine bleach 17) What is the other major ingredient of lye soap? Bayberries Any candle wax A mixture of flour and sugar Animal fat 18) The primary ingredients of farmstead cheese are pasteurized milk, a commercial lactic bacteria, salt and ...? Rennet Sugar Corn syrup Baking Soda 19) Before smoking meat in a smoke house, the cuts of meat should be ...? Rolled in hot coals Soaked in a brine mixture of salt and sugar Cooked in an oven for two hours Coated with baking soda 20) What is Brunswick stew? A vile food eaten by cannibals on the Brunswick Peninsula of New Guinea Traditional Scottish stew made with carrots, lamb, potatoes and cabbage Traditional Creek Indian stew made with several meats and vegetables - cooked for 24 hours. Traditional Maine seafood chowder made from clams, vegetables, cream and potatoes. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 )

Tim There is also a white indigenous potato, but it has a different name in Mvskoke than the true sweet potato. This white potato is also know today as the Jerusalem artichoke. It is a member of the sunflower family. In the upper Piedmont and Southern Highlands, it is a ubiquitous wild flower on the sides of roads and edges of pastures and fields. This past year I ate quite a few when I had no income. Richard T. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 )

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: weaverstringcat Surnames: Meadows, Stephens, Peoples, Hardy, Browning Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3019/mb.ashx Message Board Post: List members: I have been reading your posts/discussions for a while now. I have been wondering if anyone could direct me to possible documents that would give proof or disprove that Ransom Meadows in-laws were of Native American (Creek) origin. There are articles and photographs I have seen (online) that show he had many sons-/daughters-in-law that were of Creek heritage. Ransom Middleton Meadows (B: 25 dec 1786 in Coranade, Warren County, NC) married Sarah Leona Stevens (Stephens) (B: abt 1791 in Wilkes County, GA). This couple lived, died and were buried in Tallapoosa County, Alabama. The Meadows family was known for a 'large spread' of land with "a lot of servants" (which may have been a 'cover' to protect Creek refugees who had been forced from Georgia, during a land grab...This I suspect, but have no firm proof of.). Other names related to Ransom and Sarah meadows which seem to have Creek ties include the following: * William Allan Lansing Hardy * Robert Hardy * Florence Diadema Hogan * Diadema Peeples (Peoples) Hogan * John B. Hardy * Martha Diademia "Patsy" Browning ------------------ Sarah Leona Stephens and Ransom M. Meadows are my (maternal) direct ancestors -- if there is a way to find a Creek connection; and I would greatly appreciate help, or suggestions. Please visit my 'blog' for what little facts I have been able to find up to now (search for Meadows family): http://www.calcis.net/blog/ Thank you, for your time. -- Cathy Ann Abernathy [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I cook them.......as well as green fried tomatoes! Think I will do that tomorrow! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Gipson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Fried Sweet Potatos are a traditional Creekfood > Carol, Loves fried sweet potatoes. > Tks, Sam > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:32 PM > Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Fried Sweet Potatos are a traditional Creek > food > > >> Hey Richard B. >> >> There is a Native Sweet Potato in the Southeast that was eaten by the >> Creeks. That is why there was a "Potato Clan." It was either baked in >> coals or >> fried in hickory nut oil. The indigenous Sweet Potato like its South >> American >> cousin (which is cultivated now) was a member of the Morning Glory >> family. >> The flowers and leafs are almost identical to a Morning Glory, but form >> a >> bush >> shape like a bean plant. The Southeastern Sweet Potato only has one >> potato >> per plant, whereas the South American cultivated Sweet Potato has >> multiple >> potato. >> >> Richard T. >> >> >> >> **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your >> budget? >> Read reviews on AOL Autos. >> (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 >> ) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

So, the legend of the "White Potato Clan" is not the same for the sweet potato? I think it goes like this: The "White Potato Clan" was established after much prayer to the maker by Creek mothers seeking guidance as to what to do with there the mixed blood kids they gave birth since they had no clan to join because of being mixed blood. They had to go searching the marshes of the black dirt trying to listen to the roots telling them where to dig them up and when they did, they were told to cut the eyes out of the root (potato) and plant them in mounds to feed their families for life. :) TT ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:32 PM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Fried Sweet Potatos are a traditional Creek food > Hey Richard B. > > There is a Native Sweet Potato in the Southeast that was eaten by the > Creeks. That is why there was a "Potato Clan." It was either baked in > coals or > fried in hickory nut oil. The indigenous Sweet Potato like its South > American > cousin (which is cultivated now) was a member of the Morning Glory > family. > The flowers and leafs are almost identical to a Morning Glory, but form a > bush > shape like a bean plant. The Southeastern Sweet Potato only has one > potato > per plant, whereas the South American cultivated Sweet Potato has > multiple > potato. > > Richard T. > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Are the sweet potato "french fries" good if cooked by a white princess for a Creek husband? JR **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 )

I like the green tomatoes, as well as Carol. Fried are good also. Tks, Sam Bed time and now you have made me hungry. LOL Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Timothy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Fried Sweet Potatos are a traditionalCreekfood >I cook them.......as well as green fried tomatoes! Think I will do that > tomorrow! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Gipson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:53 PM > Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Fried Sweet Potatos are a traditional > Creekfood > > >> Carol, Loves fried sweet potatoes. >> Tks, Sam >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:32 PM >> Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Fried Sweet Potatos are a traditional Creek >> food >> >> >>> Hey Richard B. >>> >>> There is a Native Sweet Potato in the Southeast that was eaten by the >>> Creeks. That is why there was a "Potato Clan." It was either baked in >>> coals or >>> fried in hickory nut oil. The indigenous Sweet Potato like its South >>> American >>> cousin (which is cultivated now) was a member of the Morning Glory >>> family. >>> The flowers and leafs are almost identical to a Morning Glory, but form >>> a >>> bush >>> shape like a bean plant. The Southeastern Sweet Potato only has one >>> potato >>> per plant, whereas the South American cultivated Sweet Potato has >>> multiple >>> potato. >>> >>> Richard T. >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your >>> budget? >>> Read reviews on AOL Autos. >>> (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 >>> ) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would say yes. Carol is from W. Virginia, and I am from Arkansas. Sweet Potatoe French fries, are the only way I like Sweet Tater's. Ummmmmmmmmmm. Good and tasty. Tks, Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Serious comment for a change - if you arelooking for U... > Are the sweet potato "french fries" good if cooked by a white princess for > a > > Creek husband? > > JR > > > > > > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey Richard B. There is a Native Sweet Potato in the Southeast that was eaten by the Creeks. That is why there was a "Potato Clan." It was either baked in coals or fried in hickory nut oil. The indigenous Sweet Potato like its South American cousin (which is cultivated now) was a member of the Morning Glory family. The flowers and leafs are almost identical to a Morning Glory, but form a bush shape like a bean plant. The Southeastern Sweet Potato only has one potato per plant, whereas the South American cultivated Sweet Potato has multiple potato. Richard T. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 )

In a message dated 8/17/2008 8:19:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: You missunderstand what I wrote, I was not saying there was royality, I am saying there were Surnames King, Queen, Prince and Princess. Why couldn't someone say my grandmother was a Creek Princess, just like I would say my grandmother was a Creek Wallis for example. Judy I see! said the blind man to the deaf dog! I have seen the last surname of "King" among the Cherokees and "Queen" in the Midtown section of Atlanta. Richard T. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 )