In a message dated 10/12/2009 1:19:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gonegolfingsc@bellsouth.net writes: What is your take on there being a central "mother tribe or nation" that most or all other tribes in North America came out of.....pre and post Ice Age? Well, I am not an anthropologist, but I do know that the MtDNA of Creeks is not like that of most of the other tribes in the Eastern United States. Where did all that different DNA come from if everybody came from the same tribe? Richard T.

During the past few months, we have identified numerous Chontal Maya words and town names in the Hichiti language that don't appear in Mvskoke. Both Chiaha and Altamaha are Chontal Maya words. The Chontal Mayas were the sailors and merchants of the Mesoamerican world. They built true sailing ships, very similar in size and construction to Viking longships. They also did most of the slave raiding for the Classic Period Maya. We think that the Chontal Maya slave raids are what depopulated the portions of Georgia below the Fall Line between 600 AD and 750 AD. Later, between 900 AD and 1000 AD, either Chontal merchants or escaped Maya slaves returned to the lower Southeast and set up trading stations - resulting in their mixed heritage offspring become the hereditary elite. Chontal and Highland Mayas and Hitchiti's look very much alike. The Yucateca Maya looked very different than these peoples. The Chontal appear to be the descendants of the Olmecs. I have found everyone of the glyphs of the Olmec syllabary in art created in Etowah, but nothing that remotely looks like Maya from the northern Yucatan. Well, that's where we are at now! Richard

I have heard that there were NA's here in the general area of what is the USA presently and possibly further North. With the coming Ice Age from Northward, they continued migrating South through what is now Mexico until living was possible. Then at the time of the big melt, from South to North, migration took place once again back to areas they came from. Comments? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Sokol" <ssokol@ix.netcom.com> To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Locations of Creek and Cherokee territory inGeorgia > Richard, > > From what I read somewhere recently, the first humans here were > paleo-indians that bear no relationship to the more recent "native > Americans". From the few relics found, it is thought that the ice > age may have caught them. Another source said there were two > different "native Americans", with the second group coming from > Europe long before any known journeys. They did not survive. > > You touched something similar a few years back but I am not sure the > conclusion. It was about the interaction of "Central American > natives" and "North American natives". The physical characteristics > are very different, yet they must have overlapped somewhere near the > Rio Grande Valley > > So many questions and so few answers. > > > At 12:51 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >>What is your take on there being a central "mother tribe or nation" that >>most or all other tribes in North America came out of.....pre and post Ice >>Age? >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> >>To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:26 AM >>Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Locations of Creek and Cherokee territory >>inGeorgia >> >> >> > >From reading postings in the past, it has become obvious to me that >> > >most >> > people do not have a clue where the Creeks and Cherokees actually lived >> > in >> > Georgia, and when they lived there. This assessment also applies to >> > most >> > state and federal bureaucrats, who disseminate information on the >> > region's >> > Native American heritage . . . the only exception being some >> > professional >> > archaeologists. They must be VERY frustrated people! >> > >> > The general public seems to think that any Native American artifact >> > found >> > north of Atlanta was made by a Cherokee, and that the Creeks were a >> > single ethnic group that occupied the southern 2/3 of the state. Thus, >> > if >> > one >> > has Native American roots north of Atlanta, it is typical that people >> > assume that they were "a Cherokee princess." Guess, there were no >> > male >> > Cherokees - chuckle. A lot of people south of Atlanta also assume >> > that >> > their N >> > A ancestor was Cherokee, because there are so many inaccurate maps >> > floating >> > around the world of tourist promotion. Others assume that the Creeks >> > were just one ethnic group, speaking one language. >> > >> > Cherokees never "legally" occupied any of Georgia east of the >> > Chattahoochee >> > River - even in the mountains, and by the time they got to Georgia, >> > they were using muskets exclusively. Even by the 1750s, they were >> > pretty >> > much reliant on firearms. A delegation of Cherokee chiefs and head >> > warriors >> > went to London to meet the king. An English archery club challenged >> > them >> > to >> > a contest of archery skills. The Cherokees were so out of practice at >> > shooting bows, that they were totally stomped. >> > >> > Among other articles, the upcoming issue of the "People of One Fire" >> > newsletter will contain Colonial Period maps that show how rapidly the >> > ethnic >> > patterns of the Lower Southeast changed during the 1600s and 1700s. >> > They >> > will surprise you. You will never trust another tourist brochure! >> > <chuckle> >> > >> > Richard T, >> > >> > >> > Notes on the Creek Indians >> > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm >> > >> > Early Creek History >> > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ >> > >> > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians >> > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>Notes on the Creek Indians >>http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm >> >>Early Creek History >>http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ >> >>Migration Legend of the Creek Indians >>http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all: There's a very interesting article by one of the world's leading geneticists online right now. Ugo Perego headed up the micro-genealogy project at BYU in the 1990's. In that project they paid people to submit DNA samples and pedigree charts in order to begin to build a database of human DNA for current and future research. Read Ugo Perego's article beginning at http://www.mormontimes.com/studies_doctrine/research_discoveries/?id=10756 and continuing on in three parts. The fourth part will come out this week sometime. He talks about how American Indian DNA and mtDNA analysis,in general, cannot show the whole picture. He thoroughly examines the uses and limitations of mtDNA and tells about what can happen to the DNA of founders of cultures over time and over many generations. He talks about three principles for looking at DNA and says, "These principles apply whether you are talking about people in Indiana or Iceland." If you want to be truly informed on the subject of what kind of DNA we are seeing today for Indian people and what it can tell us about our ancestry, read Ugo's article. It's very informative. Kathie ----- Original Message ----- From: TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com To: creek-southeast@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Locations of Creek and Cherokee territoryinGeorgia In a message dated 10/12/2009 1:19:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gonegolfingsc@bellsouth.net writes: What is your take on there being a central "mother tribe or nation" that most or all other tribes in North America came out of.....pre and post Ice Age? Well, I am not an anthropologist, but I do know that the MtDNA of Creeks is not like that of most of the other tribes in the Eastern United States. Where did all that different DNA come from if everybody came from the same tribe? Richard T. Notes on the Creek Indians http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm Early Creek History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ Migration Legend of the Creek Indians http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Richard, From what I read somewhere recently, the first humans here were paleo-indians that bear no relationship to the more recent "native Americans". From the few relics found, it is thought that the ice age may have caught them. Another source said there were two different "native Americans", with the second group coming from Europe long before any known journeys. They did not survive. You touched something similar a few years back but I am not sure the conclusion. It was about the interaction of "Central American natives" and "North American natives". The physical characteristics are very different, yet they must have overlapped somewhere near the Rio Grande Valley So many questions and so few answers. At 12:51 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >What is your take on there being a central "mother tribe or nation" that >most or all other tribes in North America came out of.....pre and post Ice >Age? >----- Original Message ----- >From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> >To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:26 AM >Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Locations of Creek and Cherokee territory >inGeorgia > > > > >From reading postings in the past, it has become obvious to me that most > > people do not have a clue where the Creeks and Cherokees actually lived in > > Georgia, and when they lived there. This assessment also applies to most > > state and federal bureaucrats, who disseminate information on the region's > > Native American heritage . . . the only exception being some professional > > archaeologists. They must be VERY frustrated people! > > > > The general public seems to think that any Native American artifact found > > north of Atlanta was made by a Cherokee, and that the Creeks were a > > single ethnic group that occupied the southern 2/3 of the state. Thus, if > > one > > has Native American roots north of Atlanta, it is typical that people > > assume that they were "a Cherokee princess." Guess, there were no male > > Cherokees - chuckle. A lot of people south of Atlanta also assume that > > their N > > A ancestor was Cherokee, because there are so many inaccurate maps > > floating > > around the world of tourist promotion. Others assume that the Creeks > > were just one ethnic group, speaking one language. > > > > Cherokees never "legally" occupied any of Georgia east of the > > Chattahoochee > > River - even in the mountains, and by the time they got to Georgia, > > they were using muskets exclusively. Even by the 1750s, they were > > pretty > > much reliant on firearms. A delegation of Cherokee chiefs and head > > warriors > > went to London to meet the king. An English archery club challenged them > > to > > a contest of archery skills. The Cherokees were so out of practice at > > shooting bows, that they were totally stomped. > > > > Among other articles, the upcoming issue of the "People of One Fire" > > newsletter will contain Colonial Period maps that show how rapidly the > > ethnic > > patterns of the Lower Southeast changed during the 1600s and 1700s. They > > will surprise you. You will never trust another tourist brochure! > > <chuckle> > > > > Richard T, > > > > > > Notes on the Creek Indians > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > > > Early Creek History > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >Notes on the Creek Indians >http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > >Early Creek History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > >Migration Legend of the Creek Indians >http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is your take on there being a central "mother tribe or nation" that most or all other tribes in North America came out of.....pre and post Ice Age? ----- Original Message ----- From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> To: <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Locations of Creek and Cherokee territory inGeorgia > >From reading postings in the past, it has become obvious to me that most > people do not have a clue where the Creeks and Cherokees actually lived in > Georgia, and when they lived there. This assessment also applies to most > state and federal bureaucrats, who disseminate information on the region's > Native American heritage . . . the only exception being some professional > archaeologists. They must be VERY frustrated people! > > The general public seems to think that any Native American artifact found > north of Atlanta was made by a Cherokee, and that the Creeks were a > single ethnic group that occupied the southern 2/3 of the state. Thus, if > one > has Native American roots north of Atlanta, it is typical that people > assume that they were "a Cherokee princess." Guess, there were no male > Cherokees - chuckle. A lot of people south of Atlanta also assume that > their N > A ancestor was Cherokee, because there are so many inaccurate maps > floating > around the world of tourist promotion. Others assume that the Creeks > were just one ethnic group, speaking one language. > > Cherokees never "legally" occupied any of Georgia east of the > Chattahoochee > River - even in the mountains, and by the time they got to Georgia, > they were using muskets exclusively. Even by the 1750s, they were > pretty > much reliant on firearms. A delegation of Cherokee chiefs and head > warriors > went to London to meet the king. An English archery club challenged them > to > a contest of archery skills. The Cherokees were so out of practice at > shooting bows, that they were totally stomped. > > Among other articles, the upcoming issue of the "People of One Fire" > newsletter will contain Colonial Period maps that show how rapidly the > ethnic > patterns of the Lower Southeast changed during the 1600s and 1700s. They > will surprise you. You will never trust another tourist brochure! > <chuckle> > > Richard T, > > > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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>From reading postings in the past, it has become obvious to me that most people do not have a clue where the Creeks and Cherokees actually lived in Georgia, and when they lived there. This assessment also applies to most state and federal bureaucrats, who disseminate information on the region's Native American heritage . . . the only exception being some professional archaeologists. They must be VERY frustrated people! The general public seems to think that any Native American artifact found north of Atlanta was made by a Cherokee, and that the Creeks were a single ethnic group that occupied the southern 2/3 of the state. Thus, if one has Native American roots north of Atlanta, it is typical that people assume that they were "a Cherokee princess." Guess, there were no male Cherokees - chuckle. A lot of people south of Atlanta also assume that their N A ancestor was Cherokee, because there are so many inaccurate maps floating around the world of tourist promotion. Others assume that the Creeks were just one ethnic group, speaking one language. Cherokees never "legally" occupied any of Georgia east of the Chattahoochee River - even in the mountains, and by the time they got to Georgia, they were using muskets exclusively. Even by the 1750s, they were pretty much reliant on firearms. A delegation of Cherokee chiefs and head warriors went to London to meet the king. An English archery club challenged them to a contest of archery skills. The Cherokees were so out of practice at shooting bows, that they were totally stomped. Among other articles, the upcoming issue of the "People of One Fire" newsletter will contain Colonial Period maps that show how rapidly the ethnic patterns of the Lower Southeast changed during the 1600s and 1700s. They will surprise you. You will never trust another tourist brochure! <chuckle> Richard T,

Hello Richard T, I am very interested in the "People of One Fire" newsletter. Thanks, Dorothy~ Mvhayv ~ in N. FL. ----- Original Message ----- From: <TalliyaSoutheast@aol.com> > Among other articles, the upcoming issue of the "People of One Fire" > newsletter will contain Colonial Period maps that show how rapidly the > ethnic > patterns of the Lower Southeast changed during the 1600s and 1700s. They > will surprise you. You will never trust another tourist brochure! > <chuckle> > > Richard T,

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SandiPerry61 Surnames: Carnley,Boutwell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3052.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: We may be from the same Carnley line. My grandmother was Mattie Leona Carnley Bohannon..her parents were George Carnley and Mollie Boutwell Carnley they lived in the South Alabama/Northwest Florida area. If you think this is your line be glad to hear from you. lujah7@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Nancy By any chance, do you know anything about Decatur Powell? He and wife were in Coffee County and Geneva County in the mid 1850 time era. Susie ----- Original Message ----- From: <machis@centurytel.net> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <creek-southeast@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] Ancestry search > The Carnley family tree in my work has no connection to the Daughtery > lines except marriage later in the years. If you can email me thos I > will look at them I will help you when I am not working. The next day > I'm off is Sunday. The Daughterys are intermarried into the Powells. > NAncy > > Quoting "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>: >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: pawjpeg >> Surnames: >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3052.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> I would like to invite you to visit the Carnley family tree and ask >> if you can >> help me get it straight. I have three that I am working on. The >> Daughtry Family >> Tree is for a friend. The Carnley Family Tree and the Wall Family >> Tree is mine. >> I was a Wall before I married. The Carnley home person is me the home >> person for >> the Wall family tree is Daniel Major Wall but it is mine also. contact is >> the >> same for all three trees which is pawjpeg@yahoo.com >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you >> would like >> to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above >> and respond >> on the board. >> >> >> >> >> Notes on the Creek Indians >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm >> >> Early Creek History >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ >> >> Migration Legend of the Creek Indians >> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > Notes on the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm > > Early Creek History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/ > > Migration Legend of the Creek Indians > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CREEK-SOUTHEAST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ELLinSpain Surnames: CARNLEY Classification: military Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3052.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: WW1 DRAFT 1917 Name: Joseph Carnley EMPLOYED BY B. HALL - FARMING County: Crenshaw State: Alabama Birthplace: Alabama;COFFEE Birth Date: 2 Apr 1892 HAS WIFE, 2 CHILDREN & MOTHER TO SUPPORT Race: White MEDIUM HEIGHT & SLENDER BUILD WITH BROWN EYES & BLACK HAIR FHL Roll Number: 1509375 DraftBoard: 0 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ELLinSpain Surnames: carnley Classification: census Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3052.1.1.1.1.1.1.4.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1900 Name: John J Carnley Home in 1900: Carpenter, Coffee, Alabama Age: 29 Birth Date: Feb 1871 Birthplace: Alabama Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Male Relationship to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Tildy Marriage year: 1896 Marital Status: Married 4 YEARS Years Married: 4 Residence : Precincts 3, 19 Brannen, Carpenter, Coffee, Alabama Name: Tildy Carnley (MATILDA) Home in 1900: Carpenter, Coffee, Alabama Age: 25 Birth Date: Nov 1874 Birthplace: Alabama Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Female Relationship to Head of House: Wife Mother: number of living children: 1 Mother: How many children: 1 Spouse's Name: John J Marriage year: 1896 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 4 Residence : Precincts 3, 19 Brannen, Carpenter, Coffee, Alabama Name: Joseph Carnley Home in 1900: Carpenter, Coffee, Alabama Age: 7 Birth Date: Sep 1892 Birthplace: Alabama Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Male Relationship to Head of House: Step Son [Stepson] Mother's Name: Tildy Mother's Birthplace: Alabama Marital Status: Single Name: Anna Carnley Home in 1900: Carpenter, Coffee, Alabama Age: 1 Birth Date: Jul 1898 Birthplace: Alabama Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Female Relationship to Head of House: Daughter Father's Name: John J Father's Birthplace: Alabama Mother's Name: Tildy Mother's Birthplace: Alabama Marital Status: Single now, If Matilda shows she only had 1 child - living AND THIS couple state that they have been married 4 years, it could be 1 of 2 things: either he is a step son to Matilda OR he has been taken on by this couple, & is a son by another family member as, step son, back then, did not have the same connatation as we use it today Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pawjpeg Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3052.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks I realy did not know where to start looking or any thing but you have help me when I found the message board. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pawjpeg Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3052.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for I have not been able to find nobody who knew my grandfather Joseph Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ELLinSpain Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3052.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1920 meant to say, this is next door to the Nowling's in MORGANS MILL & BEAVER .... ROAD Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pawjpeg Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3052.1.1.1.1.1.1.4.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think so to and I am not a good speller anyway Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ELLinSpain Surnames: CARNLEY Classification: census Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3052.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1920 Name: Josephus Carnley Home in 1920: Carpenter, Coffee, Alabama Age: 30 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Birthplace: Alabama Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah F Father's Birth Place: Alabama Mother's Name: Matilda E Mother's Birth Place: Alabama Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Rent Able to read: No Able to Write: No Name: Sarah F Carnley Home in 1920: Carpenter, Coffee, Alabama Age: 23 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897 Birthplace: Alabama Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's Name: Josephus Father's Birth Place: Alabama Mother's Birth Place: Alabama Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Female Able to read: Yes Able to Write: No Name: Emma E Carnley Home in 1920: Carpenter, Coffee, Alabama Age: 5 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1915 Birthplace: Alabama Relation to Head of House: Daughter Name: Alice L Carnley Home in 1920: Carpenter, Coffee, Alabama Age: 3 years 10 months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1916 Birthplace: Alabama Relation to Head of House: Daughter Name: Lulu F Carnley Home in 1920: Carpenter, Coffee, Alabama Age: 1 year 6 months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1918 Birthplace: Alabama Relation to Head of House: Daughter Name: Rosie L Carnley Home in 1920: Carpenter, Coffee, Alabama Age: 2 months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1919 Birthplace: Alabama Relation to Head of House: Daughter Name: Matilda E Carnley Home in 1920: Carpenter, Coffee, Alabama Age: 65 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Birthplace: Alabama Relation to Head of House: Mother Father's Birth Place: Alabama Mother's Birth Place: South Carolina Marital Status: Widow Race: White Sex: Female Able to read: No Able to Write: No Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pawjpeg Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.special.secreeks/3052.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I want to say again thank you and I appreciate your help and my family tree is growing and I am so please and happy and so excited about it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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