I second that - I think the question was when in SC was the record for Creed - I apologize for dropping out of this for a while- I am dealing with some problems. (I am going to dump some stuff here and take off) I offer the following - which is a compendium of research including some by Mr Randall: Woodrow Boyett refers to work done by Mr. Lou Randall of Australia and refers to the Creed Genealogy Newsletter, Volume 2, Number 1, June 1986, pages 1-2. In this newsletter, Mr. Randall outlines the mystery of the eight or so Matthew Creeds that appear in the early records. As Woodrow Boyett did in his book, I can do no better than to refer you to Mr. Randall's article. I have accumulated some further information regarding these Craven Co. (Georgetown, SC) Creeds: Matthew Creed: 1.(Witnessed will of Clarke 14 September 1728) uncertain 2. Witnessed John Godin April 1739 3. Witnessed Will of Samuel Wiggin 4 June 1747 4. Deed Thomas Thomp sold to Matthew Creed 18 August 1747 5. Witnessed will of Abraham Paul in Craven County 13 January 1751 6. Matthew Creed sold to Philip Dill 25 May 1762 7. John Self Plat Socastee 12 August 1769 8. Forbes land bounding @ Pee Dee 23 October 1769 9. Deed Abstract Trapier January 1771 10. Plat 7 April 1772 11. Memorial of 200 acres on the Pee Dee 22 May 1772 12. Land Grant 8 July 1774 13 Memorial of Waccamaw Neck 22 May 1772 14. Bond for Deed, Matthew Creed to John Jacob Stolvare (probably Stalvey) date unknown at this minute - this was subject of a "query" Independent Republic Quarterly Vol 27 Winter 1993 No. 1 From this it would appear that this Matthew Creed was old enough to witness a deed for Clarke 14 September 1728 and that he still was living to record the Memorial for the Waccamaw Neck property 22 May 1772. This is a span of 44 years. Assuming that he was at least 18 or 20 when he witnessed the deed in 1728 then it is reasonable to assume that he was still alive at the age of at least 62 to 64 years in 1772. I think we need to interleave information Mr. Lou Randall references with other availible information : 1.Witnessed will of Clarke 14 September 1728 2. Witnessed John Godin April 1739 3.Grant of 200 acres Pee Dee river. {Randall Anson County, NC} 1741 4.Buys 200 acres from Tomkin, Pee Dee River {Randall Anson Co. NC} 1747 5. Witnessed Will of Samuel Wiggin 4 June 1747 6. Deed Thomas Thomp sold to Matthew Creed 18 August 1747 7. Sells 200 acres to Jacob Paul {Randall Anson Co. NC} 1749 8. Witnesses deed to Hornbeck {Randall Anson Co. NC} 1750 9. Witnessed will of Abraham Paul in Craven County 13 January 1751 10. Buys portion of Dinkins grant {Randall Anson Co. NC} 1756 11. Matthew Creed sold to Phillip Dill 25 May 1762 (Is this the same transaction that Randall references "sells 200 A. (Tomkins) to Dill?? Randall finds it in Anson Co. NC) 12. Matthew Creed sells (Dinkins) land to Easterwood. [RANDALL Anson Co. NC} 1762 13. Underwood to Brown Deed, land Adjacent to Matthew Creed {Randall Anson Co. NC} 1763 14. John Self Plat Socastee 12 August 1769 15. Forbes land bounding @ Pee Dee 23 October 1769 16. Deed Abstract Trapier January 1771 17. Plat 7 April 1772 Entry 0009 003 0014 00245 18. Memorial of 200 acres on the Pee Dee 22 May 1772 19. Land Grant 8 July 1774 : Matthew Creed receives a land grant of 450 acres from George the Third dated 8 July 1774. ""four hundred and fifty acres in Craven County on Waccamaw Neck bounding to the South East corner on said creek, the other sides on vacant land." Entry 0002 005 0031 00232 00 20 Memorial of Waccamaw Neck 22 May 1772 holder relation? It is very difficult to get a handle on THIS Matthew Creed. We don't have any concrete evidence of where he was from, who his family is or anything other than a handful of isolated events. There may be some relationships in the various transactions but nothing springs to mind yet. The only concrete thing we have is his land. A question is why does a man listed as a "Carpenter" leave so much evidence of this sort? Item 15 above, the William Forbes Sale of land to Paul Trapier in October 1769 bounding on the land of Matthew Creed and Being about 8 Miles above the Great Cheraws. According to the information provided by Mr. Lou Randall: Matthew Creed acquired land (200acres) on the Pee Dee as early as 1741. We do not know if this was in the same general location, i.e. 8 miles above the Great Cheraws - but perhaps. The Randall reference needs to be examined in the ANSON CO., NC records My purpose in looking at the Onslow COunty NC Creeds is that they appear an isolated group and was hoping to get a submission for the Creed Dna Project ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [CREED] Cornelius Creed > Lou: > > It sure was nice seeing your reply to Richard today. You asked when > Horry > County, SC. records are first available. It became a county in 1801. > Nyla > > ======= > What is the earliest known Horry Co SC > record? Is it possible that there is some sort of Cumberland Co land > record > that could indicate where Cornelius Creed was from? It is interesting to > note that there was a Cornelius Creed in early NY records. > > Lou Randall > > > > > **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion > blog, > plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >