hi Perry: I did locate Lula Creed. Her first name is Emma. She descends through King David Creed of Surry Co NC. In case someone else is interested, I'm attaching an outline of the info that I have. I welcome any additions or corrections. Nyla Descendants of King David Creed 1 King David Creed b: Bet. 1825 - 1830 in North Carolina d: 15 Aug 1864 in Winchester, Virginia, during Civil War .. +Sarah "Sally" Hodges b: Bet. 1827 - 1832 in North Carolina m: 30 Sep 1845 in Surry County, North Carolina. Bondsman was Lazarus Creed ..... 2 Paulina Creed b: about 1848 ..... 2 Nathan Creed b: 28 Dec 1849 in Surry County, North Carolina d: 05 Oct 1929 in Mt. Airy, Surry County, North Carolina ......... +Susan Hicks m: 09 May 1878 in Surry County, North Carolina ..... 2 Ellen Creed b: about 1854 in Stewarts Creek, Surry County, North Carolina ..... 2 Martin Creed b: about 1856 in North Carolina d: 15 Oct 1932 in Stewarts Creek, Surry County, North Carolina ......... +Laura Sarah York b: about 1862 m: 04 Mar 1880 in Surry County, North Carolina d: Bef. 1910 ............ 3 Dorie Creed b: about 1883 in North Carolina ................ +John Hazelwood ............ 3 Emma Lula Creed b: 18 Jun 1886 in North Carolina d: Bef. 1971 ................ +John Oland Gibson b: 18 Dec 1876 in North Carolina d: 14 Sep 1971 in Davie Memorial Hospital, Mocksville, Davie, North Carolina ............ 3 Laura Sarah Jane Creed b: 28 Feb 1887 in Surry County, North Carolina d: 14 Apr 1954 in Mocksville, Davie, North Carolina ................ +Milton L. "Mitt" Taylor ............ 3 Della Creed b: about 1889 in North Carolina ................ +Toby Poole ............ 3 Logan A. Creed b: 28 Jul 1892 in Surry County, North Carolina d: 06 Sep 1959 in Finhurst, North Carolina ................ +Ella Tickle b: 15 Jul 1895 m: in Surry County, North Carolina d: 28 Oct 1980 ..... 2 Drewery Robert Creed b: 01 Mar 1857 in Surry County, North Carolina d: 20 Nov 1946 in Surry County, North Carolina ......... +Almeda Tickle ..... *2nd Wife of Drewery Robert Creed: ......... +Lucinda Johnson m: 26 Mar 1873 ..... *3rd Wife of Drewery Robert Creed: ......... +Mary Naomi Seal b: about 1879 ............ 3 Robert Frederick Creed b: about 1897 ............ 3 Franklin Bailey Creed b: about 1902 ............ 3 Mary J. Creed b: about 1903 d: about 1930 ............ 3 Coy Esther Creed b: about 1907 d: about 1973 ............ 3 Martha Ellen Creed b: about 1909 d: about 1985 ............ 3 Willie Ethel Creed b: about 1911 d: about 1953 ............ 3 Susan E. Creed b: about 1915 ..... 2 Sarah M. Creed b: about 1856 in Surry County, North Carolina ..... 2 Lucinda Creed b: about 1862 in Surry County, North Carolina Sorry, I can't shed any light on the Lula Creed you were asking about. Maybe someone on the list can..... Perry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

Nyla, in the 67 marker dna, Jim and I are off 2 markers. In the 37 we were off 1. Perry

Sorry, I can't shed any light on the Lula Creed you were asking about. Maybe someone on the list can..... Perry

i wonder if any of y'all know and claim these creeds - or if they are a part of the great creed diaspora thanks http://www.creedrice.com/html/about_us.html

Please ignore the previous email. The correct URL is _www.ociecreed.com_ (http://www.ociecreed.com/) . Nyla **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

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Sidney's death certificate shows his parents as John and Betty Snellings Creed. He was born 7 Jan 1878 Boone Co, MO and died 13 Sep 1848 Boone Co, MO according to his death certificate. Wife's name was Margaret Ann Davis Creed and she was the one who gave the information for his death certificate. He was buried at Union Church (Riggs). Missouri Marriage Records 1805-2002 @ Ancestry.com show Sidney Creed married Margaret Ann Davis 2 Dec 1911 in Randolph Co, MO. The only Sidney Creed I could find in the 1880 census records in MO was living with the family of Robt B Seymour in Boone Co, MO shown as age 9 and listed as an orphan born in MO with both parents born in MO. I am trying to determine the parents of John Creed married to Betty Snellings. Any help is appreciated. Sharon Powell Williamson of the Elijah Creed, Sr and Elijah Creed, Jr line --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

please post where his obituary might be found when it is available thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [CREED] Ocie Creed > Hi Millie, > > Ocie was a great man. I was so thrilled when his DNA matched my > brother's. > > Nyla > > > > > Nyla, > > Thanks and yes, I had received the emails. So sad, he was such a great > man > and I will miss him, but he is not suffering anymore and am thankful for > that. Please stay in touch and thank you again. Millie > > [email protected] wrote: > At 3:30 this morning (May 3, 2008), Ocie Creed passed away. > > If you did not receive the emails from Pam, let me know and I'll forward > them to you. > > Nyla CREED DePauk > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the > body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Millie, Ocie was a great man. I was so thrilled when his DNA matched my brother's. Nyla Nyla, Thanks and yes, I had received the emails. So sad, he was such a great man and I will miss him, but he is not suffering anymore and am thankful for that. Please stay in touch and thank you again. Millie [email protected] wrote: At 3:30 this morning (May 3, 2008), Ocie Creed passed away. If you did not receive the emails from Pam, let me know and I'll forward them to you. Nyla CREED DePauk **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

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At 3:30 this morning (May 3, 2008), Ocie Creed passed away. If you did not receive the emails from Pam, let me know and I'll forward them to you. Nyla CREED DePauk **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

Nyla, Thanks and yes, I had received the emails. So sad, he was such a great man and I will miss him, but he is not suffering anymore and am thankful for that. Please stay in touch and thank you again. Millie [email protected] wrote: At 3:30 this morning (May 3, 2008), Ocie Creed passed away. If you did not receive the emails from Pam, let me know and I'll forward them to you. Nyla CREED DePauk **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi No, I can't claim a relationship to Pepys's friend John Creed of Northampton or his son Richard Creed. I have researched John's family along with his wife, the daughter of Sir G Pickering. John had many children but none that fit with my tree. Still trying to find out where this John Creed came from before he arrived in Northampton. The Wills of this particular line are kept at the Northamption Archives. The Creed arms 3 Leopards heads on a black cheveron, with an ermine background was granted to Sir James Creed, who I believe was born Canterbury, Kent England. I have dates and quite a bit of information on this man but its all are filed away at the moment. He only had daughters and is buried in St Alphages Church, Greenwich London. He doesn't descend from the above John Creed of Northamptonshire but I have been trying to find Sir James Creed and his brother Willam's parents as this "might" hold the key to when my Creeds left England to go to Ireland The timeframe fits I have Francis Creed (now a complete verified line) - possibly a brother of James and William, marrying Elizabeth Blakeney, sister of Lord William Blakeney, a military man, who was also buried in Westminster Abbey. William Blakeney is interesting as his coat of arms is the direct opposite of Sir James Creed. Black background with 3 leopards heads on the background, ermine cheveron. Both these arms were granted around the same time and both are obsolete as no heirs born. I may be trying to read too much intothe similarity and it may just turn out to be they shared the same Arms designer! I have also yet to look for arms for earlier Blakeney family to see if there is any similarities. I have yet to check out Sir James' borther William, who was also an MP I shall be going to Who Do You Think You Are? Exihibition on Saturday and hope to have the opportunity to talk to the representatives from the College of Arms then. Unfortunately its too expensive to ask the College of Arms to do a private search... I believe their fees are c£400 Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [CREED] Creed in Paris > thanks - as I understand it Creed Perfumes is well regarded in that field. > > as a rustic provencial, i have had little contact with them - but well > traveled friends have brought back information and samples. > > I don't suppose anyone over there would claim descent from Samuel Pepy's > friend Creed - or the Richard Creed buried inside that big church - i > think > Westminster Abbey ? > > Three Leopard's Heads Orr ? > > > the Creed Dna Project is in the begining stages but already has produced > some interesting insight into some long standing questions - and, of > course, > produced new directions for research. > > the website of the Project is www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/c/creed > > check on results > > we hope you will join us in this research - I think we would all be > interested in more participation from across the the Atlantic - though I > think we have at least one participant from there now. Participants in the > Creed Project receive discounts in the testing. > > If any participants wishes his identity to remain private - that is easily > accomodated. > > If anyone wishes to present a sample from a disinterested family member > and > to represent that line in the Project - that can also be easily > accomodated. > > > Interestingly, the prevalent Haplotypes would seem to indicate that the > most > of the participating Creeds descend or pass through the British Isles. > > You may wish to take a look at the National Geographic's Human Genome > Project to view the movement of the various haplotypes (mine is I1a some > other Creeds are I and R1b1) from human origins in Africa. > > > It is typical to discover in these sorts of projects different family > lines > and you see them in the Creed Project as well. > > if you have any problem getting access or any questions - please do not > hestitate to ask - i am sure there is someone on this list who can answer > > Richard Smyrl Creed > Kershaw County, South Carolina > USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:05 AM > Subject: [CREED] Creed in Paris > > >> Hi Richard, >> >> The Creeds in Paris - the perfume manufacturers. I have found out that >> company appears to originate from a James Creed of Leicester, England c. >> 1710. He >> travelled to london and was originally a tailor to the landed gentry. >> >> Any info on the DNA project? >> >> Dave Creed Sussex, England origin Charing, Kent County year 1618 >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

In the late 60's (the last century) I remember reading in Burke's that it was thought that the Creed name may have originated as a result of something during one Crusade or another - all from my recollection as I have lost those notes and not located the same information in current Burkes - but I think it was Croede and it was thought to link to some location during the Crusades. there were also three distinctly different arms as I recall Have you encountered that information - or is this some misremembered misapprehension on my part? Northampton - isn't that an area in which a number of families have descent from the Danes? By chance, are you related to the Creed Family of Halifax Nova Scotia - the Halifax Citadel - etc.? They have a beautiful website and the Photo of their George Creed bears a remarkable similiarity to some photos of some Creeds in Southern USA thank you Richard Smyrl Creed Kershaw County, SC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Creed" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [CREED] Creed in Paris Hi No, I can't claim a relationship to Pepys's friend John Creed of Northampton or his son Richard Creed. I have researched John's family along with his wife, the daughter of Sir G Pickering. John had many children but none that fit with my tree. Still trying to find out where this John Creed came from before he arrived in Northampton. The Wills of this particular line are kept at the Northamption Archives. The Creed arms 3 Leopards heads on a black cheveron, with an ermine background was granted to Sir James Creed, who I believe was born Canterbury, Kent England. I have dates and quite a bit of information on this man but its all are filed away at the moment. He only had daughters and is buried in St Alphages Church, Greenwich London. He doesn't descend from the above John Creed of Northamptonshire but I have been trying to find Sir James Creed and his brother Willam's parents as this "might" hold the key to when my Creeds left England to go to Ireland The timeframe fits I have Francis Creed (now a complete verified line) - possibly a brother of James and William, marrying Elizabeth Blakeney, sister of Lord William Blakeney, a military man, who was also buried in Westminster Abbey. William Blakeney is interesting as his coat of arms is the direct opposite of Sir James Creed. Black background with 3 leopards heads on the background, ermine cheveron. Both these arms were granted around the same time and both are obsolete as no heirs born. I may be trying to read too much intothe similarity and it may just turn out to be they shared the same Arms designer! I have also yet to look for arms for earlier Blakeney family to see if there is any similarities. I have yet to check out Sir James' borther William, who was also an MP I shall be going to Who Do You Think You Are? Exihibition on Saturday and hope to have the opportunity to talk to the representatives from the College of Arms then. Unfortunately its too expensive to ask the College of Arms to do a private search... I believe their fees are c£400 Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [CREED] Creed in Paris > thanks - as I understand it Creed Perfumes is well regarded in that field. > > as a rustic provencial, i have had little contact with them - but well > traveled friends have brought back information and samples. > > I don't suppose anyone over there would claim descent from Samuel Pepy's > friend Creed - or the Richard Creed buried inside that big church - i > think > Westminster Abbey ? > > Three Leopard's Heads Orr ? > > > the Creed Dna Project is in the begining stages but already has produced > some interesting insight into some long standing questions - and, of > course, > produced new directions for research. > > the website of the Project is www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/c/creed > > check on results > > we hope you will join us in this research - I think we would all be > interested in more participation from across the the Atlantic - though I > think we have at least one participant from there now. Participants in the > Creed Project receive discounts in the testing. > > If any participants wishes his identity to remain private - that is easily > accomodated. > > If anyone wishes to present a sample from a disinterested family member > and > to represent that line in the Project - that can also be easily > accomodated. > > > Interestingly, the prevalent Haplotypes would seem to indicate that the > most > of the participating Creeds descend or pass through the British Isles. > > You may wish to take a look at the National Geographic's Human Genome > Project to view the movement of the various haplotypes (mine is I1a some > other Creeds are I and R1b1) from human origins in Africa. > > > It is typical to discover in these sorts of projects different family > lines > and you see them in the Creed Project as well. > > if you have any problem getting access or any questions - please do not > hestitate to ask - i am sure there is someone on this list who can answer > > Richard Smyrl Creed > Kershaw County, South Carolina > USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:05 AM > Subject: [CREED] Creed in Paris > > >> Hi Richard, >> >> The Creeds in Paris - the perfume manufacturers. I have found out that >> company appears to originate from a James Creed of Leicester, England c. >> 1710. He >> travelled to london and was originally a tailor to the landed gentry. >> >> Any info on the DNA project? >> >> Dave Creed Sussex, England origin Charing, Kent County year 1618 >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

the website for the National Geographic Genographic Project is: www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/ if you join the Creed Project your results can be sent to the Nation Geographic as well ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:05 AM Subject: [CREED] Creed in Paris > Hi Richard, > > The Creeds in Paris - the perfume manufacturers. I have found out that > company appears to originate from a James Creed of Leicester, England c. > 1710. He > travelled to london and was originally a tailor to the landed gentry. > > Any info on the DNA project? > > Dave Creed Sussex, England origin Charing, Kent County year 1618 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

thanks - as I understand it Creed Perfumes is well regarded in that field. as a rustic provencial, i have had little contact with them - but well traveled friends have brought back information and samples. I don't suppose anyone over there would claim descent from Samuel Pepy's friend Creed - or the Richard Creed buried inside that big church - i think Westminster Abbey ? Three Leopard's Heads Orr ? the Creed Dna Project is in the begining stages but already has produced some interesting insight into some long standing questions - and, of course, produced new directions for research. the website of the Project is www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/c/creed check on results we hope you will join us in this research - I think we would all be interested in more participation from across the the Atlantic - though I think we have at least one participant from there now. Participants in the Creed Project receive discounts in the testing. If any participants wishes his identity to remain private - that is easily accomodated. If anyone wishes to present a sample from a disinterested family member and to represent that line in the Project - that can also be easily accomodated. Interestingly, the prevalent Haplotypes would seem to indicate that the most of the participating Creeds descend or pass through the British Isles. You may wish to take a look at the National Geographic's Human Genome Project to view the movement of the various haplotypes (mine is I1a some other Creeds are I and R1b1) from human origins in Africa. It is typical to discover in these sorts of projects different family lines and you see them in the Creed Project as well. if you have any problem getting access or any questions - please do not hestitate to ask - i am sure there is someone on this list who can answer Richard Smyrl Creed Kershaw County, South Carolina USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:05 AM Subject: [CREED] Creed in Paris > Hi Richard, > > The Creeds in Paris - the perfume manufacturers. I have found out that > company appears to originate from a James Creed of Leicester, England c. > 1710. He > travelled to london and was originally a tailor to the landed gentry. > > Any info on the DNA project? > > Dave Creed Sussex, England origin Charing, Kent County year 1618 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Richard, The Creeds in Paris - the perfume manufacturers. I have found out that company appears to originate from a James Creed of Leicester, England c. 1710. He travelled to london and was originally a tailor to the landed gentry. Any info on the DNA project? Dave Creed Sussex, England origin Charing, Kent County year 1618

Another hard question. Seeking any info. on who maybe the occupants of a cemetery located on Haystack Rd. a short distant out of Mt. Airy, Surry Co, NC. There is little evidence that a cemetery ever existed in this location. Reportedly, a family of six (Creeds) lived on this property in the 1800's and all were killed by disease in the same year. Four field stones were found of which three were fairly evenly spaced and in a straight line leading one to believe they might mark the location of graves. These stones are buried and only the tops can be seen. In other words, does anyone know of a Creed family where all members died of disease with in a year?? I do know there was McKinneys living close by 60 years ago. Thanks for reading. Perry

ah well you see, for me - he was on the wrong side pretty sure he is not one of mine anyway but I wonder if you have thought about participating in the Creed Dna Project? we'd sure like to have you - and the project is worldwide I was interested the other day to learn that the Creeds of Creed's Perfume (France) were originally from England - I had often wondered about that. regards Richard Smyrl Creed Kershaw County, SC USA (Occupied CSA) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: [CREED] Creed Vets (Civil War) > John Creed was at Battle of Fisher's Hill, 22 September 1864, awarded > Congressional Medal of Honour. He served with 'G' Company 9th Mass > Infantry. Also > was at Harper' ferry and Fredericksberg, November thru December 1862. Not > mine > though, someone might lay claim to him? Dave Creed, England. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Yeah Dave, John is about as common as William in some lines. Here is another John from Surry Co., NC that need too be identified. John J. Creed. The dates are good enough that he could be the son of Lazarus and Winnie Nichols Creed ?? Anyone claim him? John J. Creed (Confederate) Biographical data and notes: Born in Surry County, NC Pre-enlistment occupation: Farmer Enlistment: Residing in Surry County, NC at time of enlistment 22 years of age at time of enlistment Enlisted on Apr 7 1862 at Surry County, NC as Private Mustering information: Enlisted into E Company, 53rd Infantry (North Carolina) on Apr 30 1862 Died of disease while serving in 53rd Infantry (North Carolina) on Jul 19 1862 at Petersburg, VA (Died of "meningitis") Sources for the above information: North Carolina Troops 1861-65, A Roster, (1993) Perry Creed in NC At 02:34 PM 4/23/2008 -0400, you wrote: >John Creed was at Battle of Fisher's Hill, 22 September 1864, awarded >Congressional Medal of Honour. He served with 'G' Company 9th Mass >Infantry. Also >was at Harper' ferry and Fredericksberg, November thru December 1862. >Not mine >though, someone might lay claim to him? Dave Creed, England. > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message