Thank you, Lou and Perry. Genealogy is so much fun. A lady whose maiden name is CREED was doing a search online for Matthews Co VA. One of the "hits" was Matthew CREED. That site took her to my site. She sent me an email. And the pieces of the puzzle started falling into place based on the census records. Perry, best I can tell, she is your 1/2 second cousin once removed. Nyla That is the same info I have. I was glad to learn that Jeffersons middle name was Ward. I had always took for granted it was Wesley, as there was other Wesleys in that line of Creeds. Thanks. Perry ( Great grand son of Jefferson W. Creed and Permelia Crissman ) At 11:07 PM 10/11/2008 +1100, you wrote: >The James A Creed in 1920 Powhatan Co VA seems to be James Albert Creed b 16 >Oct 1871 Surry Co NC, son of Jefferson Ward Creed 1832-c1902, and his second >wife Mary P Marshall. Jefferson is the son of John and grandson of Bennett >Sr. James A is listed in 1910 Mt Airy, Surry Co NC. Lou >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:02 PM >Subject: CREED Digest, Vol 3, Issue 25 > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. John A. Creed of Powhatan County, VA ([email protected]) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:44:14 EDT > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: [CREED] John A. Creed of Powhatan County, VA > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > > > James A. Creed, age 48, born in NC, was living in Powhatan County, VA, > > when > > the 1920 census was taken. Is anyone on this list familiar with this > > family? > > I believe this family ties into the Surry Co NC Creeds. > > > > In 1920, John's family consisted of himself, his wife (Bettie L.) and 8 > > children. The children are Ethel L; Richard A.; James O.; Frances L.; > > Virgil > > C.; Lillian A.; Thelma; and Alma E. > > > > Thanks so much for all help. > > . > > Nyla > >> -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1714 - Release Date: 10/8/2008 > > 7:01 AM > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

That is the same info I have. I was glad to learn that Jeffersons middle name was Ward. I had always took for granted it was Wesley, as there was other Wesleys in that line of Creeds. Thanks. Perry ( Great grand son of Jefferson W. Creed and Permelia Crissman ) At 11:07 PM 10/11/2008 +1100, you wrote: >The James A Creed in 1920 Powhatan Co VA seems to be James Albert Creed b 16 >Oct 1871 Surry Co NC, son of Jefferson Ward Creed 1832-c1902, and his second >wife Mary P Marshall. Jefferson is the son of John and grandson of Bennett >Sr. James A is listed in 1910 Mt Airy, Surry Co NC. Lou >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:02 PM >Subject: CREED Digest, Vol 3, Issue 25 > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. John A. Creed of Powhatan County, VA ([email protected]) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:44:14 EDT > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: [CREED] John A. Creed of Powhatan County, VA > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > > > James A. Creed, age 48, born in NC, was living in Powhatan County, VA, > > when > > the 1920 census was taken. Is anyone on this list familiar with this > > family? > > I believe this family ties into the Surry Co NC Creeds. > > > > In 1920, John's family consisted of himself, his wife (Bettie L.) and 8 > > children. The children are Ethel L; Richard A.; James O.; Frances L.; > > Virgil > > C.; Lillian A.; Thelma; and Alma E. > > > > Thanks so much for all help. > > . > > Nyla > >> -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1714 - Release Date: 10/8/2008 > > 7:01 AM > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

James A. Creed, age 48, born in NC, was living in Powhatan County, VA, when the 1920 census was taken. Is anyone on this list familiar with this family? I believe this family ties into the Surry Co NC Creeds. In 1920, John's family consisted of himself, his wife (Bettie L.) and 8 children. The children are Ethel L; Richard A.; James O.; Frances L.; Virgil C.; Lillian A.; Thelma; and Alma E. Thanks so much for all help. . Nyla **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

Thanks for sharing that URL . That is good to know. I'm going to check it out. If I learn something new and exciting, I'll post it on the CREED List. On the CREED DNA website, I've added mini-outlines for most of the DNA participants. However, I will be more than happy to add the same info for any of our CREED lines even if there is no one from the line participating in the DNA Project. All I ask is that you send me the info in the format that Family Tree DNA wants us to use. It's very simple to do. Take a look at the mini-pedigree charts so far on the website. No information on living individuals should be included in your mini-outline. Go to the URL below. Then take a look at the Patriarchs and the Results. These two reports are available for the public to see. Everything else about the DNA test results are password protected. The results are about those participating in the CREED DNA Project. As of now, the Patriarchs has info on Creed lines of the participants only. But it will include other line as soon as I get your mini-pedigree to post on that site. _http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/creed/pats_ (http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/creed/pats) Looking forward to receiving your mini pedigree charts. Hopefully, everyone on the CREED list will want to share with other CREED researchers the Creed lines we are researching. Then we will have one place to check to see if others are researching the same lines. If you're interested in participating in the CREED DNA project, you get a better price by joining through the surname group. I would love to see a few more males with the surname CREED participate. Let me hear from you if you're interested. You can send your mini-pedigrees to the Creed List with a copy to me. The more people who see our information, the more opportunity for others to help each other. Nyla CREED DePauk Google now has Google Books in beta. Click here http://books.google.com/ . I don't know if you guys knew that or not. But, it's great for genealogy. Some whole books are on line. Others, just a little snippet where your specific info is mentioned. Then, you can locate the actual book closest to you, if you want to take a look at it in more detail. For instance, I typed in Cornelius Creed (since he's popular now), and got a return of many, many books where he is mentioned. Very interesting stuff. Just a little of what I found. 1888 Cornelius Creed stumbled into a train and was killed in MA 1828 mentioned in the book "The Red Barn" part fiction, part truth by Robert Huish 1886 mentioned in the book "All the Year Round" by Charles Dickens Listed in a directory written in the 1800's as Cornelius Creed, 19 Bridge St., Southampton in the Hotels, Inns & Taverns. The Creeds practically ran Jamica, NY 1686 William Creed - Patent Jamaica, NY I gave just a bit..there are hours of reading here just on Cornelius then, one Creed leads to another Creed. I came across mention of Creed's Hill. There's too much to put here. Don't forget to put your search info in quotes to so you will get exactly what you're searching for like this "Cornelius Creed". I found some lost and unknown info..I"m sure you will too. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 7:32 AM Subject: [CREED] SCFC HISTORY OF FOREST INDUSTRY IN SOUTH CAROLINA > > > tar kilns > > in sc > > http://www.state.sc.us/forest/scindust.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

Google now has Google Books in beta. Click here http://books.google.com/ . I don't know if you guys knew that or not. But, it's great for genealogy. Some whole books are on line. Others, just a little snippet where your specific info is mentioned. Then, you can locate the actual book closest to you, if you want to take a look at it in more detail. For instance, I typed in Cornelius Creed (since he's popular now), and got a return of many, many books where he is mentioned. Very interesting stuff. Just a little of what I found. 1888 Cornelius Creed stumbled into a train and was killed in MA 1828 mentioned in the book "The Red Barn" part fiction, part truth by Robert Huish 1886 mentioned in the book "All the Year Round" by Charles Dickens Listed in a directory written in the 1800's as Cornelius Creed, 19 Bridge St., Southampton in the Hotels, Inns & Taverns. The Creeds practically ran Jamica, NY 1686 William Creed - Patent Jamaica, NY I gave just a bit..there are hours of reading here just on Cornelius then, one Creed leads to another Creed. I came across mention of Creed's Hill. There's too much to put here. Don't forget to put your search info in quotes to so you will get exactly what you're searching for like this "Cornelius Creed". I found some lost and unknown info..I"m sure you will too. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 7:32 AM Subject: [CREED] SCFC HISTORY OF FOREST INDUSTRY IN SOUTH CAROLINA > > > tar kilns > > in sc > > http://www.state.sc.us/forest/scindust.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

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turpentine production i think from lightwood and done in a kiln thus "tar-kiln" naval stores - i think the horry creeds were producing naval stores as well i now have the guess that the horry/socastee creeds are not closely related to the onslow creeds and sorry but i am back out the door again Richard Smyrl Creed ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [CREED] Cornelius Creed > > Dear Cousins, especially the ones interested in Cornelius Creed. I hope > that is everyone. > > I've located some records on ancestry.com that you may have found > already. > I probably have heard about each of these records in the past, but it > wasn't > until last night that I felt they were connected. Here's my thoughts. > I > trust you will let me know if I am on the right path. > > Miles Carey and Mary Booth were married about 12 April 1791 in Onslow Co > NC. > (Bondsman was Henry Simmon. Witness was Will Crag or Will Gibb. There > seem to be two records that are slightly different.) > > > I am inclined to think that the marriage bond for Thomas Carey and > Elizabeth > Pearson, dated 25 Sep 1787 in Onslow Co NC, is for a brother of Miles > Carey. More about him below. > > Another marriage that I located is for Shadrach Cary and Elizabeth Cary in > Onslow Co NC. There was no date listed. I have no idea at this time how > this > couple related to the other members of the Cary family. > > > [Lou, the record I found shows Mary's surname as Booth, just as Sarah > DeCastro said.] > > Three years later about 31 May 1794, Cornelius Creed and Mary Carey were > married in Onslow Co NC. I believe Mary to be the widow of Miles Carey. > They > had at least one child. William Creed. > > Lou wrote: "I have noted an Onslow Co NC deed. 17 Aug 1821 William > Creed > to Edward Ward, 50 Acres, being land that 'fell' to Creed on the death of > his > brother Matthew Carey." > > I believe Matthew Carey and William Creed were half-brothers. They both > were sons of Mary Booth Carey Creed. > > The will of Thomas Cary dated in 1812 lists his wife as Mary. His > children > are Ruth, John, and Jephthah. From his will, which Sandy told us about > that > is online, we learn the children are not of age. I do not know if that > means > they are under age 16, 18, or 21 or some other age. When Thomas was > married in 1787, his wife's first name was Elizabeth. Now his wife is > named Mary. > I'm thinking he either was married twice or his wife's name was Mary > Elizabeth. For now, I'm going with Mary Elizabeth. She's not in my line > of > Creeds, probably, so it's not that high on the list of things I want to > learn. > > So, in my way of thinking, both Thomas and Miles were married to ladies > named Mary. Does anyone know that to be true? > >>From the will of Thomas Carey: "I wish my executor to sell the lightwood > heaped together for the purpose of tar kill, two guns, one steel trap, > cross > cut saw, hand mill, and my right to the land I bought of Cornelius Creed, > also > the land that I bought of Robert Hank. I wish only my right sold & no > deed > more than a quit claim from my heirs and the money to be applied to pay > my > just debts and in case there should not be enough sold to pay my debts, I > wish > my executors to sell such property as can be best spared." > > Not that it matters a lot in genealogy, but I am curious. What is "tar > kill." Are those tools used when cutting trees to make lumber? I > "think" Thomas > Carey bought land from Cornelius Creed (Cornelius' wife's brother-in-law > from her first marriage) and Robert Hank. He was willing to sell the > rights > (trees, mineral, oils, coal), but not the land, to pay his debts. > However, if > they didn't get enough money to pay the debts, he said to sell the > property. > And, I know there is a quit claim involved. Can someone explain what > that > is in very simple language? Thank you. > > Does this make sense? > > Nyla > > > > **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion > blog, > plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Cousins, especially the ones interested in Cornelius Creed. I hope that is everyone. I've located some records on ancestry.com that you may have found already. I probably have heard about each of these records in the past, but it wasn't until last night that I felt they were connected. Here's my thoughts. I trust you will let me know if I am on the right path. Miles Carey and Mary Booth were married about 12 April 1791 in Onslow Co NC. (Bondsman was Henry Simmon. Witness was Will Crag or Will Gibb. There seem to be two records that are slightly different.) I am inclined to think that the marriage bond for Thomas Carey and Elizabeth Pearson, dated 25 Sep 1787 in Onslow Co NC, is for a brother of Miles Carey. More about him below. Another marriage that I located is for Shadrach Cary and Elizabeth Cary in Onslow Co NC. There was no date listed. I have no idea at this time how this couple related to the other members of the Cary family. [Lou, the record I found shows Mary's surname as Booth, just as Sarah DeCastro said.] Three years later about 31 May 1794, Cornelius Creed and Mary Carey were married in Onslow Co NC. I believe Mary to be the widow of Miles Carey. They had at least one child. William Creed. Lou wrote: "I have noted an Onslow Co NC deed. 17 Aug 1821 William Creed to Edward Ward, 50 Acres, being land that 'fell' to Creed on the death of his brother Matthew Carey." I believe Matthew Carey and William Creed were half-brothers. They both were sons of Mary Booth Carey Creed. The will of Thomas Cary dated in 1812 lists his wife as Mary. His children are Ruth, John, and Jephthah. From his will, which Sandy told us about that is online, we learn the children are not of age. I do not know if that means they are under age 16, 18, or 21 or some other age. When Thomas was married in 1787, his wife's first name was Elizabeth. Now his wife is named Mary. I'm thinking he either was married twice or his wife's name was Mary Elizabeth. For now, I'm going with Mary Elizabeth. She's not in my line of Creeds, probably, so it's not that high on the list of things I want to learn. So, in my way of thinking, both Thomas and Miles were married to ladies named Mary. Does anyone know that to be true? >From the will of Thomas Carey: "I wish my executor to sell the lightwood heaped together for the purpose of tar kill, two guns, one steel trap, cross cut saw, hand mill, and my right to the land I bought of Cornelius Creed, also the land that I bought of Robert Hank. I wish only my right sold & no deed more than a quit claim from my heirs and the money to be applied to pay my just debts and in case there should not be enough sold to pay my debts, I wish my executors to sell such property as can be best spared." Not that it matters a lot in genealogy, but I am curious. What is "tar kill." Are those tools used when cutting trees to make lumber? I "think" Thomas Carey bought land from Cornelius Creed (Cornelius' wife's brother-in-law from her first marriage) and Robert Hank. He was willing to sell the rights (trees, mineral, oils, coal), but not the land, to pay his debts. However, if they didn't get enough money to pay the debts, he said to sell the property. And, I know there is a quit claim involved. Can someone explain what that is in very simple language? Thank you. Does this make sense? Nyla **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

I second that - I think the question was when in SC was the record for Creed - I apologize for dropping out of this for a while- I am dealing with some problems. (I am going to dump some stuff here and take off) I offer the following - which is a compendium of research including some by Mr Randall: Woodrow Boyett refers to work done by Mr. Lou Randall of Australia and refers to the Creed Genealogy Newsletter, Volume 2, Number 1, June 1986, pages 1-2. In this newsletter, Mr. Randall outlines the mystery of the eight or so Matthew Creeds that appear in the early records. As Woodrow Boyett did in his book, I can do no better than to refer you to Mr. Randall's article. I have accumulated some further information regarding these Craven Co. (Georgetown, SC) Creeds: Matthew Creed: 1.(Witnessed will of Clarke 14 September 1728) uncertain 2. Witnessed John Godin April 1739 3. Witnessed Will of Samuel Wiggin 4 June 1747 4. Deed Thomas Thomp sold to Matthew Creed 18 August 1747 5. Witnessed will of Abraham Paul in Craven County 13 January 1751 6. Matthew Creed sold to Philip Dill 25 May 1762 7. John Self Plat Socastee 12 August 1769 8. Forbes land bounding @ Pee Dee 23 October 1769 9. Deed Abstract Trapier January 1771 10. Plat 7 April 1772 11. Memorial of 200 acres on the Pee Dee 22 May 1772 12. Land Grant 8 July 1774 13 Memorial of Waccamaw Neck 22 May 1772 14. Bond for Deed, Matthew Creed to John Jacob Stolvare (probably Stalvey) date unknown at this minute - this was subject of a "query" Independent Republic Quarterly Vol 27 Winter 1993 No. 1 From this it would appear that this Matthew Creed was old enough to witness a deed for Clarke 14 September 1728 and that he still was living to record the Memorial for the Waccamaw Neck property 22 May 1772. This is a span of 44 years. Assuming that he was at least 18 or 20 when he witnessed the deed in 1728 then it is reasonable to assume that he was still alive at the age of at least 62 to 64 years in 1772. I think we need to interleave information Mr. Lou Randall references with other availible information : 1.Witnessed will of Clarke 14 September 1728 2. Witnessed John Godin April 1739 3.Grant of 200 acres Pee Dee river. {Randall Anson County, NC} 1741 4.Buys 200 acres from Tomkin, Pee Dee River {Randall Anson Co. NC} 1747 5. Witnessed Will of Samuel Wiggin 4 June 1747 6. Deed Thomas Thomp sold to Matthew Creed 18 August 1747 7. Sells 200 acres to Jacob Paul {Randall Anson Co. NC} 1749 8. Witnesses deed to Hornbeck {Randall Anson Co. NC} 1750 9. Witnessed will of Abraham Paul in Craven County 13 January 1751 10. Buys portion of Dinkins grant {Randall Anson Co. NC} 1756 11. Matthew Creed sold to Phillip Dill 25 May 1762 (Is this the same transaction that Randall references "sells 200 A. (Tomkins) to Dill?? Randall finds it in Anson Co. NC) 12. Matthew Creed sells (Dinkins) land to Easterwood. [RANDALL Anson Co. NC} 1762 13. Underwood to Brown Deed, land Adjacent to Matthew Creed {Randall Anson Co. NC} 1763 14. John Self Plat Socastee 12 August 1769 15. Forbes land bounding @ Pee Dee 23 October 1769 16. Deed Abstract Trapier January 1771 17. Plat 7 April 1772 Entry 0009 003 0014 00245 18. Memorial of 200 acres on the Pee Dee 22 May 1772 19. Land Grant 8 July 1774 : Matthew Creed receives a land grant of 450 acres from George the Third dated 8 July 1774. ""four hundred and fifty acres in Craven County on Waccamaw Neck bounding to the South East corner on said creek, the other sides on vacant land." Entry 0002 005 0031 00232 00 20 Memorial of Waccamaw Neck 22 May 1772 holder relation? It is very difficult to get a handle on THIS Matthew Creed. We don't have any concrete evidence of where he was from, who his family is or anything other than a handful of isolated events. There may be some relationships in the various transactions but nothing springs to mind yet. The only concrete thing we have is his land. A question is why does a man listed as a "Carpenter" leave so much evidence of this sort? Item 15 above, the William Forbes Sale of land to Paul Trapier in October 1769 bounding on the land of Matthew Creed and Being about 8 Miles above the Great Cheraws. According to the information provided by Mr. Lou Randall: Matthew Creed acquired land (200acres) on the Pee Dee as early as 1741. We do not know if this was in the same general location, i.e. 8 miles above the Great Cheraws - but perhaps. The Randall reference needs to be examined in the ANSON CO., NC records My purpose in looking at the Onslow COunty NC Creeds is that they appear an isolated group and was hoping to get a submission for the Creed Dna Project ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [CREED] Cornelius Creed > Lou: > > It sure was nice seeing your reply to Richard today. You asked when > Horry > County, SC. records are first available. It became a county in 1801. > Nyla > > ======= > What is the earliest known Horry Co SC > record? Is it possible that there is some sort of Cumberland Co land > record > that could indicate where Cornelius Creed was from? It is interesting to > note that there was a Cornelius Creed in early NY records. > > Lou Randall > > > > > **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion > blog, > plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I have wondered about Cornelius Creed in the past and have letters from Sarah Creed DeCastro from 1979. The earliest record I know for this family is the listing for Cornelius Creed in the 1790 census in Cumberland Co NC p 38. He is single. Possibly the reason he moved eastward to Onslow Co NC (where he is found in the 1800 and 1810 census) is that (Mrs) Mary Carey already had a farm or residence there? I had not noted that the name of Mrs Mary Carey may have been Mary Booth which is mentioned by Sarah Creed Decastro in the 1999 posting. I have noted an Onslow Co NC deed: 17 Aug 1821 William Creed to Edward Ward, 50 Acres, being land that "fell" to Creed on the death of his brother Matthew Carey. I suppose that it might be guessed that Cornelius Creed never actually owned the property previously owned by the husband of Mrs Mary Carey, and maybe Matthew Carey the son of Mary (Booth) Carey had no heirs and left this property to his step-brother William Creed? It certainly seems logical that William Creed was the son of Cornelius Creed, and that he was probably born around 1800. William Creed moved to Fairfield Co SC before 1826 and moved to Kemper Co MS before 1838. (He named his oldest son Cornelius b 1826 SC) William Creed seems to be the only son of Cornelius Creed. Cornelius Creed would have been born about 1765. I guess Cumberland Co isn't too far from Horry Co SC. What is the earliest known Horry Co SC record? Is it possible that there is some sort of Cumberland Co land record that could indicate where Cornelius Creed was from? It is interesting to note that there was a Cornelius Creed in early NY records. Lou Randall ............................................................. > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:02:31 -0400 > From: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CREED] Onslow > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I see on the Creed List in 1999 a posting by Sarah Patterson - her email > no > longer works - > > "my oldest know Creed Came from came from Kemper co Mississipp. > Census says his father was born in N.C. We don't his fathers name. I found > a > Cornelious Creed in Onslow Co, NC, who married a Mary Booth Carey (widow) > who > might have been the unknow Creed,s father. The reason I think that is the > first > child was Mary and second was Cornelious. The first Cornelious Creed was > single on the Comberland Co, NC. census 10 years before in 1790 he was > listed > as between 16 & 26 years old. He was with Mary on 1800 cenus and 1 male &1 > female children. > I have written to several years ago under name Sarah DeCastro. > Sarah Creed Patterson, Alabama > [email protected] (Texas)" > > She appears to be guessing at this possible ancestry > > She also has a website but again the email address does not work > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 4:45 AM > Subject: Re: [CREED] Onslow > > >> Richard: I found one marriage record. Nyla >> >> Groom: Cornelius Creed Bride: Mary Carey Bond Date: 31 May 1794 >> Bond >> #: 000092920 North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 >> ImageNum: 001302 County: Onslow Record #: 01 017 >> >> >> In a message dated 9/5/2008 2:59:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Anyone on this list know anything about the Creeds in Onslow County >> North >> Carolina? >> >> I wonder if they come from the Luke Creed of Horry Sc about 1825 >> >> thanks >> >> Richard Creed >> Camden SC >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the >> body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion >> blog, >> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. >> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CREED list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the CREED mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CREED Digest, Vol 3, Issue 20 > ************************************ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1660 - Release Date: 9/8/2008 > 6:39 PM > >

Now, I'm confused. Here http://files.usgwarchives.org/nc/onslow/willa/cary02.txt is a last will and testiment dated 1812 from Thomas Carey whos wife was Mary Cary , bought land from Cornelius Creed. Are these 2 different Mary Carys and 2 different Cornelius'? If the will was proved in 1812, how was Mary on the 1800 census? Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [CREED] Onslow >I see on the Creed List in 1999 a posting by Sarah Patterson - her email no > longer works - > > "my oldest know Creed Came from came from Kemper co Mississipp. > Census says his father was born in N.C. We don't his fathers name. I found > a > Cornelious Creed in Onslow Co, NC, who married a Mary Booth Carey (widow) > who > might have been the unknow Creed,s father. The reason I think that is the > first > child was Mary and second was Cornelious. The first Cornelious Creed was > single on the Comberland Co, NC. census 10 years before in 1790 he was > listed > as between 16 & 26 years old. He was with Mary on 1800 cenus and 1 male &1 > female children. > I have written to several years ago under name Sarah DeCastro. > Sarah Creed Patterson, Alabama > [email protected] (Texas)" > > She appears to be guessing at this possible ancestry > > She also has a website but again the email address does not work > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 4:45 AM > Subject: Re: [CREED] Onslow > > >> Richard: I found one marriage record. Nyla >> >> Groom: Cornelius Creed Bride: Mary Carey Bond Date: 31 May 1794 >> Bond >> #: 000092920 North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 >> ImageNum: 001302 County: Onslow Record #: 01 017 >> >> >> In a message dated 9/5/2008 2:59:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Anyone on this list know anything about the Creeds in Onslow County >> North >> Carolina? >> >> I wonder if they come from the Luke Creed of Horry Sc about 1825 >> >> thanks >> >> Richard Creed >> Camden SC >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the >> body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion >> blog, >> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. >> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Lou: It sure was nice seeing your reply to Richard today. You asked when Horry County, SC. records are first available. It became a county in 1801. Nyla ======= What is the earliest known Horry Co SC record? Is it possible that there is some sort of Cumberland Co land record that could indicate where Cornelius Creed was from? It is interesting to note that there was a Cornelius Creed in early NY records. Lou Randall **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

I see on the Creed List in 1999 a posting by Sarah Patterson - her email no longer works - "my oldest know Creed Came from came from Kemper co Mississipp. Census says his father was born in N.C. We don't his fathers name. I found a Cornelious Creed in Onslow Co, NC, who married a Mary Booth Carey (widow) who might have been the unknow Creed,s father. The reason I think that is the first child was Mary and second was Cornelious. The first Cornelious Creed was single on the Comberland Co, NC. census 10 years before in 1790 he was listed as between 16 & 26 years old. He was with Mary on 1800 cenus and 1 male &1 female children. I have written to several years ago under name Sarah DeCastro. Sarah Creed Patterson, Alabama [email protected] (Texas)" She appears to be guessing at this possible ancestry She also has a website but again the email address does not work ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 4:45 AM Subject: Re: [CREED] Onslow > Richard: I found one marriage record. Nyla > > Groom: Cornelius Creed Bride: Mary Carey Bond Date: 31 May 1794 > Bond > #: 000092920 North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 > ImageNum: 001302 County: Onslow Record #: 01 017 > > > In a message dated 9/5/2008 2:59:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Anyone on this list know anything about the Creeds in Onslow County North > Carolina? > > I wonder if they come from the Luke Creed of Horry Sc about 1825 > > thanks > > Richard Creed > Camden SC > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion > blog, > plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Richard, Seems like there was an article in the Creed Crier about these families. It's been so long ago that I don't recall any details. I'll do some checking. NYla ===== i appreciate that - i have noticed that there are some Creeds up there fairly recently - perhaps even now - and I wondered if anyone doing research claimed them in their lines, I do not remember ever seeing any one referencing Creeds from that area in any work in the past and for the first time i was looking in the records in that area - but hoping to find someone who already had done the work this Cornelius in 1794 is new - unknown but about the right time period for the movement that i think occured with the Horry County SC Creeds a curse on people who burn courthouses ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 4:45 AM Subject: Re: [CREED] Onslow > Richard: I found one marriage record. Nyla > > Groom: Cornelius Creed Bride: Mary Carey Bond Date: 31 May 1794 > Bond > #: 000092920 North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 > ImageNum: 001302 County: Onslow Record #: 01 017 > > > In a message dated 9/5/2008 2:59:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Anyone on this list know anything about the Creeds in Onslow County North > Carolina? > > I wonder if they come from the Luke Creed of Horry Sc about 1825 > > thanks > > Richard Creed > Camden SC > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion > blog, > plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

i appreciate that - i have noticed that there are some Creeds up there fairly recently - perhaps even now - and I wondered if anyone doing research claimed them in their lines, I do not remember ever seeing any one referencing Creeds from that area in any work in the past and for the first time i was looking in the records in that area - but hoping to find someone who already had done the work this Cornelius in 1794 is new - unknown but about the right time period for the movement that i think occured with the Horry County SC Creeds a curse on people who burn courthouses ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 4:45 AM Subject: Re: [CREED] Onslow > Richard: I found one marriage record. Nyla > > Groom: Cornelius Creed Bride: Mary Carey Bond Date: 31 May 1794 > Bond > #: 000092920 North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 > ImageNum: 001302 County: Onslow Record #: 01 017 > > > In a message dated 9/5/2008 2:59:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Anyone on this list know anything about the Creeds in Onslow County North > Carolina? > > I wonder if they come from the Luke Creed of Horry Sc about 1825 > > thanks > > Richard Creed > Camden SC > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion > blog, > plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Richard: I found one marriage record. Nyla Groom: Cornelius Creed Bride: Mary Carey Bond Date: 31 May 1794 Bond #: 000092920 North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 ImageNum: 001302 County: Onslow Record #: 01 017 In a message dated 9/5/2008 2:59:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Anyone on this list know anything about the Creeds in Onslow County North Carolina? I wonder if they come from the Luke Creed of Horry Sc about 1825 thanks Richard Creed Camden SC ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

Anyone on this list know anything about the Creeds in Onslow County North Carolina? I wonder if they come from the Luke Creed of Horry Sc about 1825 thanks Richard Creed Camden SC

Direct Descendants of Matthew Creed, Sr. 1 Matthew Creed, Sr. b: about 1730 in Virginia d: about 1798 in Surry County, North Carolina .. +Margaret McKinney b: about 1728 in probably Orange County, Virginia m: about 1750 in probably St. Thomas Parish, Orange County, Virginia d: about 1798 in Surry County, North Carolina ..... 2 John Creed b: Bet. 1750 - 1752 in Orange County, Virginia d: Bet. 1805 - 1807 in Hawkins County, Tennessee ......... +Rebecca ______ b: about 1775 in North Carolina m: about 1792 in Surry County, North Carolina d: Bet. 1818 - 1820 in Hawkins County, Tennessee ............ 3 Margaret "Peggy" Creed b: 22 Dec 1798 in Surry County, North Carolina d: 28 Sep 1845 in near Mooresburg, Hawkins County, Tennessee ................ +Cleon Moore b: 08 Jul 1789 in Surry County, North Carolina m: 27 Dec 1812 in Surry County, North Carolina d: 21 Aug 1852 in Mooresburg, Hawkins County, Tennessee ................... 4 John Creed Moore b: 28 Feb 1824 in Hawkins County, Tennessee d: in Osage, Coryell County, Texas In a message dated 9/3/2008 3:40:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I ran across a reference at the Alabama Dept of Archives and History Order number LPP00208 "Confederate Officers Photograph Album" box LPP4 Description: Moore, John Creed, 1824-1910; Brig. Gen. CSA (Texas) (item # 125) and there is a thumbnail of his photo I know nothing about him but pass it along Richard Creed ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

I ran across a reference at the Alabama Dept of Archives and History Order number LPP00208 "Confederate Officers Photograph Album" box LPP4 Description: Moore, John Creed, 1824-1910; Brig. Gen. CSA (Texas) (item # 125) and there is a thumbnail of his photo I know nothing about him but pass it along Richard Creed