I found this ref. in my unorganized notes: Egle's Penn. Women in the Rev., pp.58-61. The following portions of that account "William Crawford, son of Valentine Crawford, an emigrant from the North of ireland, was born Oct17, 1732, in Orange co., Va...." This puzzles me since I have other info. that tells of the father being b. 1706 Orange Co., Va., perhaps his grandfather William Crawford was from Ireland, I have him b. abt 1665.. Now there are 2 puzzles here, what is his given name and what are the correct birth dates? I also found the following unconnected in my database: Valentine Crawford, b. 1678 Orange Co., Fa. so of John Crawford. Can anybody enlighten me as to where they fit in with Col. Wm. and Valentine Crawford? Helen, Sacramento _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* The longer we live, the more we find we are like other persons. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-genforum/pageload.cgi?PHILEMON::plummer::229 .html http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/7636/helen.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/oh/letters.htm http://jpaul.gwdi.com/silvey/ helen_silvey@macnexus.org _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*