Boy you just made my day. Christopher Columbus Crawford . Im not laughing at your relation, but I dont believe I have heard a I Crawford with that name. He should be easy to trace. Im so sorry but he made my day. Jean I think the data base is a great idea. Ill help all I can. My sons a programer maybe he can help with the data base. Ill be glad to imput. The maillist is a great idea also. Maybe we can fine tune this. Its a big job but we need some bad input also to get us on the right track. Jean