Hello Judy, Again I wish to give thanks to you for your help. I should have known better as I never saw and of my mom or dads family that was never talked about a NO-NO so you would think I would have asked on my sons and daughter families but thought all families were like mine so I was glad to get what I did on my sons fathers side. My daughters fathers side I don't even have any last names for the females and only abt. years as her father was killed when I was 2 mos. pregnant and they didn't like talking about family either as she my daughter's grandmother was a child of rape. Which I have to start also just trying to get my sons dads line going first. Again thank you, Barbara [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Penland" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Asking again can anyone help please > Hi Barbara, > > The social security death index gives Viola's birth date as 15 Sep 1908 > and her death as 28 May 2000, Gerber, Tehama, CA and her s.s. # issued in > Colorado. There is also an old address for her in Corona, Kings, CA. > > Unfortunately, we almost all start when it's too late to glean > information from older relatives. If I weren't a pack rat, I wouldn't > have had all the information I did have to start my research. It was long > after my parents and my husband's parents had passed away. > > Good luck in your search and if I can be of any further help, just email > me direct. > > Judy, in NC > > Barbara Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Judy, > Thank you this gives me names, dates and places which is so much more than > I > had. On the 1930 census Lon Gary must be dead which is why L.B. Gary is > head > of house her name is Lizzie Bell and William is her son who is my sons > g-grandfather (grandpee) and Viola his wife is granny we called her she is > my sons g-grandmother I only saw them twice Johnny my boys father was > killed > in a car wreck and Wanda the daughter moved to Okla. for years she came > back > here to CA. when she found she had cancer and died about a month later. > Voila also died her in CA. just don't know where. I think she had about 5 > children. > Thank you Judy as I was so young and had no idea about family research > back > then I just had her give me names for my son baby book wish now I had her > wrote down all she knew, > Barbara > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Penland" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:19 PM > Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Asking again can anyone help please > > >> Hi Barbara, >> I have no relationship to your Crawford or Gary line, but I have looked >> at Ancestry.com and found a little information. It is only a little, but >> it might give you something to build on. >> 1930 Census, Precinct 3, Donley, Texas lists William Gary age 22 b. abt. >> 1908 Texas and wife Viola age 21. The previous household is Mrs. L.B.Gary >> age 48 b. TN with children Buck age 23, Pearl age 20, Dee (son) age 18, >> J.C. (son) age 16, Gladys age 13, Ellanor (?) age 11 and Anniebell age 9. >> The chldren were all born in TX. Also, it lists Mr. L.B. as married, but >> she's the head of household and no sign of Arch. >> >> The 1910 census, Precinct 2, Dickens, Texas had Arch Gary age 37 married >> 9 yrs b Arkansas, Lizzie age 27 b. TX, having had 4 children and all 4 >> living. The children are listed as Nora age 7, Elige (son) age 4, Nelson >> age 2 and Pearl age 3/12. >> >> 1900 Census Justice Precinct 3, Fannin, TX has a Crawford, Ju(unreadable) >> b. Jan 1850 TX (both parents born TN). Shows him as married, but no wife >> listed. Children at home are Ada b. Sep 1890 age 9, Claud b Apr 1896 age >> 4, Jo (son) b Apr 1886 age 14, and Lizzie b Oct 1882 age 17. This may be >> your Lizzie, but I couldn't find any other census years to follow up on. >> >> A death record is listed for William Nelson Gary b. 6 Dec 1907 Texas, >> died 26 Oct 1991 Kings. This is in the California Death Index for 1940 - >> 1997. >> >> Hope this is a little help. Sorry it couldn't be more. >> >> Good luck. >> Judy, in NC >> >> Barbara Smith wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> I am new to this list and starting my research on a new family line and >> hope I there is someone that belongs to this family or someone may be >> able >> to help me. >> I am looking for thes people Archaball Gary that married a Lizzie Bell >> Crawford they has a sone named William Gary born abt. 1907 he married >> Viola Mae Seymour her parents were Minnie Cannon and Lon Seymour. >> I know this is very little to go on I had William's wife write out this >> information for me when she was really old and I was very young and >> stupid >> for not getting more information. I know William died in CA. and she puts >> maybe's on the place of death for his parents and no dates. Archaball >> Gary >> may have died in Texas and Lizzie Bell Crawford Gary may have died in >> Alpaugh CA. >> >> Thank you for any help, >> Barbara >> [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try >> it now. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. 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