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I will be out of the office and away from my business computer from May 26-June 11. If you need research information or information about the museum call 803-874-3964. Tues-Fri 9:00-4:00 Debbie

From the Arizona Daily Star - Tucson - 2006 On Friday Martha Belle Crawford turned 101 years old. She was born August 18, 1905, in Jackson, Mississippi. Crawford graduated from Millsaps College in Jackson in 1926 and started teaching third grade. Soon after, she got married and then went on to earn her master's degree in special education at the University of Mississippi. She taught special education for about 30 years and says teaching has always been a great passion of hers. Crawford's husband Joe, died in 1972 and she never remarried. She has one daughter, three grandchildren and four great-grandchildren. She lives in a retirement community in the Foothills Talk at me later, Bob C.

..A forward from another Mail Ist. Wanda Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 08:11:14 -0500 > From: Sandi Gorin <[email protected]> > Subject: [SCKY] METCALFE CO BIRTHS - HAGAN THROUGH HARRIS > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > HAGAN, Sylvester C, s/o Francis & Elizabeth (DARNELLE) Hagan > (Monroe-Monroe), 1875. > HALL, Vesta, s/o Chas & Ellie (EADS) Hall, born Monroe Co (TN-TN), 24 Feb 1907 > > HAMILTON: > E, d/o David H & Lizzie (SULLIN) Hamilton (Adair-White Co TN), 31 Mar 1876. > E F, d/o David H & Nancy R (YATES) Hamilton, born Adair Co - parents both > born Adair Co, > reside Adair Co, 18 June 1861. * > Edward R, s/o William W & Mary B (RICE) Hamilton (Adair-Adair), 24 July 1875. > M E, born Adair Co, d/o D H & N R (YATES) Hamilton (Adair-Adair), 16 June > 1861. Note: Father's > first initial could be T instead of D. > Malissa, d/o Ben F & Sarah E (PEDIGO) Hamilton (Monroe-Barren), 13 June 1875. > Narcissus, d/o John & Malinda (NEWCOMB) Hamilton (Adair-Adair), born Adair > Co, parents > reside Adair Co, Oct 1861. > > * I have no idea why all the Adair Co residents are shown in Metcalfe Co > births unless they all went to Metcalfe Co to have their children, or were > visiting family there. > > HARBISON: > John E, s/o A L & S M (WHITLOW) Harbison (Barren-Barren), 30 Aug 1875. > Note: See Maryletta > below. > Lola A, d/o Samuel & Julia Q (SILL?) Harbison (Barren-Barren), 8 Mar 1874. > Malcolm?, s/o J E & Pernie (EDWARDS) Harbison (Metcalfe-Metcalfe), 7 Mar 1907 > Maryetta, d/o A C & S J (WHITLOW) Harbison (Barren-Barren), 9 Nov 1876. > > HARDEN, D E, d/o Marcus & H C (MLLER) Harden (Barren-Barren), 30 July 1878 > HARDING, Mary A, d/o Marcy & A C (MILLER) Harding (Cumberland-Monroe), 13 > Aug 1876. > Note: Are these the same parents??? > HARDY, J L, s/o J W & Eliza (HISER) Hardy (TN-Barren), 1 May 1861. > HARLAN, M H, d/o Robert Q & S A (SLINKER) Harlan (Metcalfe-Metcalfe), 15 > Oct 1878. > > HARPER: > James A W, s/o Joseph M & Hester A (BRAGG) Harper (Adair-Adair), 27 June 1874. > Louisa, d/o Levi & Lena (FROEDGE) Harper (Metcalfe-Metcalfe), 16 Feb 1907. > Mary F, d/o W J & Cassandra (PERKINS) Harper (Barren-Barren), 12 July 1875. > Mary F or T, d/o F M & Mandy J (JOHNSON) Harper (Metcalfe-Russell), 10 Dec > 1906. > Roy, s/o R S & Florence (NICHOLS) Harper (Metcalfe-Barren), 15 July 1906. > Rufus S, s/o Pascal C & Melissa E (CRAWFORD) Harper (Barren-Barren), 30 > July 1875. > William H, s/o Warren A & Sarah L (EDWARDS) Harper (Barren-Barren), 27 Jan > 1875. > > HARRIS: > Claude, s/o W W & S A (Cassaday) Harris (Barren-Barren), 8 June 1876. > Mary E, d/o Pleasant D & Mary E (EDWARDS) Harris (Fentress Co TN-Barren), > 12 Feb 1874. > Rachel J, d/o William C & Martha C (OAKES) Harris (Barren-Taylor), 10 Sept > 1875. > Sally C, d/o William H & Martha E (OAKES) Harris (Barren-Taylor), 16 Jan > 1874. Note: her > maiden name looks more like CAKES in this entry but was smeared). > > to be continued next year with HARVEY/HARVY. Sandi > > > > > SCKY Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=south-central-kentucky > Barren Co Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybarren > GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ > > >

Thank you, Mona. Lee Ivester (Crawford descendant - collateral) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mona Anderson Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:31 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [CRAWFORD] Yahoo! News Story - Ancestry.com puts 90M war recordsonline - Yahoo! News Mona Anderson ([email protected]) has sent you a news article. (Email address has not been verified.) ------------------------------------------------------------ Personal message: FYI: I saw this today on my Yahoo homepage. Ancestry.com puts 90M war records online - Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070524/ap_on_hi_te/genealogy_war_records ============================================================ Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Alexander only had one son and his name was John ,and he lived in Franklin co all his life. Sorry rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Hollis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Alexander Crawford Franklin Co, Indiana > Rose, I have an Alexander Crawford, b. 21 Oct 1784 in GA. and d. IL. It > seems the descendants of Alexander lived in Indiana, Ohio, and Illinois for > many years. I have a very old letter that names one of his son's > (Zachariah) descandants where they lived and how they died. DO you have > information that you might share to determine if these are connected. > V. Hollis > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rose crawford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:05 PM > Subject: [CRAWFORD] Alexander Crawford Franklin Co, Indiana > > > >I am looking for information on an Alexander Crawford who was born around > >1800 in Landrick Scotland. He was to have sailed from Glascoe on April 20 > >1817 and arrived in New York on June 1 1817 and setteled in Franklin Co , > >Indiana in 1822 . I am tring to find the ship that he sailed on and where > >he was at after he came to US also did he come alone. I read what Riely > >Kidd had and was wondering how he is extended family . r crawford > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/717 - Release Date: 3/10/2007 2:25 PM > >

sorry about the previous post. I hit the button. Thanks for your patience. Marilyn

might like to read this ----- Original Message ----- .com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:30 PM Subject: [CRAWFORD] Yahoo! News Story - Ancestry.com puts 90M war recordsonline - Yahoo! News > > Mona Anderson ([email protected]) has sent you a news article. > (Email address has not been verified.) > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Personal message: > > FYI: I saw this today on my Yahoo homepage. > > Ancestry.com puts 90M war records online - Yahoo! News > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070524/ap_on_hi_te/genealogy_war_records > > ============================================================ > Yahoo! News > http://news.yahoo.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mona Anderson ([email protected]) has sent you a news article. (Email address has not been verified.) ------------------------------------------------------------ Personal message: FYI: I saw this today on my Yahoo homepage. Ancestry.com puts 90M war records online - Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070524/ap_on_hi_te/genealogy_war_records ============================================================ Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/

Rose, I have an Alexander Crawford, b. 21 Oct 1784 in GA. and d. IL. It seems the descendants of Alexander lived in Indiana, Ohio, and Illinois for many years. I have a very old letter that names one of his son's (Zachariah) descandants where they lived and how they died. DO you have information that you might share to determine if these are connected. V. Hollis ----- Original Message ----- From: "rose crawford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: [CRAWFORD] Alexander Crawford Franklin Co, Indiana >I am looking for information on an Alexander Crawford who was born around >1800 in Landrick Scotland. He was to have sailed from Glascoe on April 20 >1817 and arrived in New York on June 1 1817 and setteled in Franklin Co , >Indiana in 1822 . I am tring to find the ship that he sailed on and where >he was at after he came to US also did he come alone. I read what Riely >Kidd had and was wondering how he is extended family . r crawford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I am looking for information on an Alexander Crawford who was born around 1800 in Landrick Scotland. He was to have sailed from Glascoe on April 20 1817 and arrived in New York on June 1 1817 and setteled in Franklin Co , Indiana in 1822 . I am tring to find the ship that he sailed on and where he was at after he came to US also did he come alone. I read what Riely Kidd had and was wondering how he is extended family . r crawford

sorry it is not me i have not had the test done yet -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 13 May 2007 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Crawfords of Rutherford Co., NC Hello Bob I had my testing done by Family Tree DNA http://www.familytreedna.com/ using the Crawford Surname Project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/crawford/. I do not know the corporate structure of Family Tree DNA so I couldn't say what the relationship with Family Tree Maker might be. The commonality of the names might give you reason to think but I don't know for sure. On the Crawford Project page, you can click on "Request to join this Group" and a form comes up that provides all the prices. A 12 marker test is pretty general but doesn't really tell you much. I think that it is generally accepted that if you want to be able to compare yourself to others, you should get a 37 marker test. A 67 marker test is really more than you need unless you are trying to narrow down a search. They use the same test sample. You pay more for more markers. You don't have to have all the markers checked right away. For a fee you can upgrade your results at a later date. I think it is a little cheaper if you get them all done at one go. Read the section on Privacy to understand who gets to see the results. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Crawford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:39 AM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Crawfords of Rutherford Co., NC > Bob Crawford this is Bob Crawford of Tucson, AZ. Who does this > testing and at what cost? Is this Family Tree part of Family Tree > Maker or is it part of the group that I seen a little of on the > Crawford List? Can someone view this chart that's not part of the > DNA testing? I do believe that there are different levels of markers > does that relate to cost and at what point do you have diminishing > returns for added markers, if any. > > Talk at me later, > > Bob C. > > > > At 09:43 PM 5/12/2007, you wrote: >>Ida >> >>The 67 marker in the group is me. The results for the other just came in. >>The chart hasn't been updated yet. I suspect that it will be done shortly. >> >>The differences between your results and mine are at 438 & 458 which don't >>seem to be on the list of faster mutating markers. >> >>Bob >> >>Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Crawfords of Rutherford Co., NC >> >> >> > Hi Bob, >> > >> > I only see one 67 test posted. Is that yours? Where is the match >> > posted? >> > I >> > would really like to get this chart saved so that I could add some >> > color >> > to >> > it to better see the numbers within the group that don't match, and to >> > see if >> > they are the faster changing markers. Highlighting the markers that >> > are >> > different makes it much easier to really see what doesn't match. It >> > is >> > my >> > understanding that if the faster moving markers are the ones that don't >> > match, then >> > the difference isn't that critical. >> > >> > Ida >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Hello Bob I had my testing done by Family Tree DNA http://www.familytreedna.com/ using the Crawford Surname Project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/crawford/. I do not know the corporate structure of Family Tree DNA so I couldn't say what the relationship with Family Tree Maker might be. The commonality of the names might give you reason to think but I don't know for sure. On the Crawford Project page, you can click on "Request to join this Group" and a form comes up that provides all the prices. A 12 marker test is pretty general but doesn't really tell you much. I think that it is generally accepted that if you want to be able to compare yourself to others, you should get a 37 marker test. A 67 marker test is really more than you need unless you are trying to narrow down a search. They use the same test sample. You pay more for more markers. You don't have to have all the markers checked right away. For a fee you can upgrade your results at a later date. I think it is a little cheaper if you get them all done at one go. Read the section on Privacy to understand who gets to see the results. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Crawford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:39 AM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Crawfords of Rutherford Co., NC > Bob Crawford this is Bob Crawford of Tucson, AZ. Who does this > testing and at what cost? Is this Family Tree part of Family Tree > Maker or is it part of the group that I seen a little of on the > Crawford List? Can someone view this chart that's not part of the > DNA testing? I do believe that there are different levels of markers > does that relate to cost and at what point do you have diminishing > returns for added markers, if any. > > Talk at me later, > > Bob C. > > > > At 09:43 PM 5/12/2007, you wrote: >>Ida >> >>The 67 marker in the group is me. The results for the other just came in. >>The chart hasn't been updated yet. I suspect that it will be done shortly. >> >>The differences between your results and mine are at 438 & 458 which don't >>seem to be on the list of faster mutating markers. >> >>Bob >> >>Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Crawfords of Rutherford Co., NC >> >> >> > Hi Bob, >> > >> > I only see one 67 test posted. Is that yours? Where is the match >> > posted? >> > I >> > would really like to get this chart saved so that I could add some >> > color >> > to >> > it to better see the numbers within the group that don't match, and to >> > see if >> > they are the faster changing markers. Highlighting the markers that >> > are >> > different makes it much easier to really see what doesn't match. It >> > is >> > my >> > understanding that if the faster moving markers are the ones that don't >> > match, then >> > the difference isn't that critical. >> > >> > Ida >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Ida Just to pop in here with my 2 cents. I have my DNA posted and I am in the Ardmillan Crawford line. I have traced my family back to Donegal, Ireland to the late 1700's. These land grants or plantations were given out around a general same time if I am right, some in Ireland and some in the USA. So that is why you see some people around the 1700's getting land in the USA and then Crawfords coming to North America from Ireland where they or friends and relatives got land grants back in the around the1700's. You had the potatoe famine which brought a bunch of Scots- Irish over and there were also smaller migrations patterns here and there. It's a whole area of study. There was the big migration to Pennsylvania and most went south in the US or to Ohio and further west and a smaller amount went North to Canada. I generalized in my post so as not to get in any trouble or mistakes I hope, but it is an interesting area of study, if only we had the time.~~~~~~~~~~~~~Tom In a message dated 5/12/2007 11:31:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Cathy, I am very interested in who your Crawford ancestor was in Rutherford Co. and how the line goes back to Ireland. It appears that the lines we match on DNA, who have traced lines back, have found their line goes to Ireland. I strongly suspect that is where our line originated, or at least came from there, perhaps having gone from Scotland to Ireland at an earlier time. Some who know their line came from Ireland came to the Americas later than mine did, hence is has been difficult to find the connection, as it apparently existed in Ireland. While my line was in the south, later ones seem to have gone north, some as far north as Canada. I would appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks so much for your reply. Ida ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Ida The 67 marker in the group is me. The results for the other just came in. The chart hasn't been updated yet. I suspect that it will be done shortly. The differences between your results and mine are at 438 & 458 which don't seem to be on the list of faster mutating markers. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Crawfords of Rutherford Co., NC > Hi Bob, > > I only see one 67 test posted. Is that yours? Where is the match posted? > I > would really like to get this chart saved so that I could add some color > to > it to better see the numbers within the group that don't match, and to > see if > they are the faster changing markers. Highlighting the markers that are > different makes it much easier to really see what doesn't match. It is > my > understanding that if the faster moving markers are the ones that don't > match, then > the difference isn't that critical. > > Ida > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bob, I only see one 67 test posted. Is that yours? Where is the match posted? I would really like to get this chart saved so that I could add some color to it to better see the numbers within the group that don't match, and to see if they are the faster changing markers. Highlighting the markers that are different makes it much easier to really see what doesn't match. It is my understanding that if the faster moving markers are the ones that don't match, then the difference isn't that critical. Ida ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Cathy, I am very interested in who your Crawford ancestor was in Rutherford Co. and how the line goes back to Ireland. It appears that the lines we match on DNA, who have traced lines back, have found their line goes to Ireland. I strongly suspect that is where our line originated, or at least came from there, perhaps having gone from Scotland to Ireland at an earlier time. Some who know their line came from Ireland came to the Americas later than mine did, hence is has been difficult to find the connection, as it apparently existed in Ireland. While my line was in the south, later ones seem to have gone north, some as far north as Canada. I would appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks so much for your reply. Ida ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Bob Crawford this is Bob Crawford of Tucson, AZ. Who does this testing and at what cost? Is this Family Tree part of Family Tree Maker or is it part of the group that I seen a little of on the Crawford List? Can someone view this chart that's not part of the DNA testing? I do believe that there are different levels of markers does that relate to cost and at what point do you have diminishing returns for added markers, if any. Talk at me later, Bob C. At 09:43 PM 5/12/2007, you wrote: >Ida > >The 67 marker in the group is me. The results for the other just came in. >The chart hasn't been updated yet. I suspect that it will be done shortly. > >The differences between your results and mine are at 438 & 458 which don't >seem to be on the list of faster mutating markers. > >Bob > >Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Crawfords of Rutherford Co., NC > > > > Hi Bob, > > > > I only see one 67 test posted. Is that yours? Where is the match posted? > > I > > would really like to get this chart saved so that I could add some color > > to > > it to better see the numbers within the group that don't match, and to > > see if > > they are the faster changing markers. Highlighting the markers that are > > different makes it much easier to really see what doesn't match. It is > > my > > understanding that if the faster moving markers are the ones that don't > > match, then > > the difference isn't that critical. > > > > Ida > >

Hi Ida We spoke a number of years ago. Your cousin and I are a genetic distance of 2 on 37 markers. Unfortunately my family appears to come from Ireland to N. America in the mid-1800s and I haven't been able to trace them to the southern U.S. I have found a 67 marker exact match with a Crawford in New Jersey and we are exploring our information to find the connection. It should be within the last couple of hundred years. We think that we have a common gr. gr. gr. grandfather in Ireland. If more people would join the Crawford Y-DNA project, we might break down some of the brick walls that are in our way. It would help everyone. It would also help if Crawford relatives would join the Clan Crawford Association www.clancrawford.org Bob Crawford ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: [CRAWFORD] Crawfords of Rutherford Co., NC >I have received some recent notifications of DNA matches from Family Tree > DNA, however I realized I can't recall having seen any postings from this > list > lately. > > My cousin took the DNA test for our line, and we are part of the Lineage 1 > Group. I believe our earliest known ancestor is John Crawford of > Rutherford Co. > NC who received land grants in that county in the late 1700's, post Rev. > War. Is there anyone else in the list group who has participated in the > DNA > testing who is part of Group 1 and can trace their line back to NC, > particularly the Rutherford Co. area? > > Ida Crawford Madison > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I haven't taken, nor has anyone else in my family taken the DNA test, but my Crawfords can be traced to Rutherford County...then back to Ireland. Cathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 12 May 2007 1:32 PM Subject: [CRAWFORD] Crawfords of Rutherford Co., NC I have received some recent notifications of DNA matches from Family Tree DNA, however I realized I can't recall having seen any postings from this list lately. My cousin took the DNA test for our line, and we are part of the Lineage 1 Group. I believe our earliest known ancestor is John Crawford of Rutherford Co. NC who received land grants in that county in the late 1700's, post Rev. War. Is there anyone else in the list group who has participated in the DNA testing who is part of Group 1 and can trace their line back to NC, particularly the Rutherford Co. area? Ida Crawford Madison ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.