I have a relative named JANET CRAWFORD (who hasn't?) who was born in BEITH, AYR in the early part of the 1800's. There are at least two born at this time and the problem is to sort out which is which. There is one born in 1804 and the other in 1807. As she was married in 1822 at DALRY to DAVID WHITEFORD the 1804 one would seem to be the logical choice as that would make her 18 at the time of marriage. If it were the other one she would only be 15. Her children were, in order of birth, JANET 1823, ROBERT 1824, MARGARET 1829, ELIZABETH 1831, JEAN 1832,JAMES 1835, MARY 1837, EUPHEMIA 1839, DAVID 1842, CATHERINE 1845. I have endeavoured to prove which are her parents using the Scottish naming pattern and this doesn't seem to work. JANET (1804) has parents ALEXANDER & MARGARET (LOUDON) and there is no sign of any Alexanders in any generations. JANET (1807) has parents WILLIAM & JANET (Robertson) again with neither fitting the pattern. The only other possibility (????) is a marriage of JAMES CRAWFORD & JANET DICKIE 1793 in DALRY. I can find no trace of children to this couple. What makes the marriage a feasible one is that the original Janets (1804,1807) have a grand daughter named JANET DICKIE RALSTON. This may all seem garbled but it may help an enquiring mind help me solve the problem. George

Hi George, I don't think there are any relationships here. Are these places in Scotland? We are Irish/Scots I think. My Gr.Gr Grandfather Robert Crawford came to Port Hope in Upper Canada about 1830. He claimed to be born in Ireland in 1800 and married a Martha Boyd b. 1807 from Co. Cavan, Ireland. Thanks for trying. Bob. Robert T. Crawford Researching Crawford, Pugh, Creasor, Gyles, Rathbone, Mott, > I have a relative named JANET CRAWFORD (who hasn't?) who was born > in BEITH, AYR in the early part of the 1800's. > > There are at least two born at this time and the problem is to > sort out which is which. > > There is one born in 1804 and the other in 1807. As she was > married in 1822 at DALRY to DAVID WHITEFORD the 1804 one would > seem to be the logical choice as that would make her 18 at the time > of marriage. If it were the other one she would only be 15. > > Her children were, in order of birth, JANET 1823, ROBERT 1824, > MARGARET 1829, ELIZABETH 1831, JEAN 1832,JAMES 1835, MARY 1837, > EUPHEMIA 1839, DAVID 1842, CATHERINE 1845. > > I have endeavoured to prove which are her parents using the > Scottish naming pattern and this doesn't seem to work. JANET (1804) > has parents ALEXANDER & MARGARET (LOUDON) and there is no sign of > any Alexanders in any generations. > > JANET (1807) has parents WILLIAM & JANET (Robertson) again with > neither fitting the pattern. > > The only other possibility (????) is a marriage of JAMES > CRAWFORD & JANET DICKIE 1793 in DALRY. I can find no trace of > children to this couple. What makes the marriage a feasible one is > that the original Janets (1804,1807) have a grand daughter named > JANET DICKIE RALSTON. > > This may all seem garbled but it may help an enquiring mind > help me solve the problem. > > George > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRAWFORD- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

OBIT: Arizona Daily Star 09/16/2007 Tucson, AZ. Jacqueline Russell Crawford - born July 9, 1922, passed away on Sunday, September 9, 2007. She was the widow of major Frank Steele Crawford, U.S.M.C. Retired. She is survived by daughter, Candace Dale Crawford; son, Russell Scott Crawford and his wife, Sheri Lynn Crawford; grandchildren, Melissa Janelle and Tammara Lynn Crawford, Timothy Andrew and David Adam Barrett; step grandchildren, Andrew Neal, Christian Sean and Allaina Evonne Ragone. She is preceded in death by two sisters, Dale Trombley and Roberta Russell. She served in the U.S.M.C. during WW II, and was a stewardess for Western Airlines from 1948 - 1952. Loving to fly made her marriage to a pilot in the US Marine Corp a perfect match. She was an attendance clerk for Orange Unified School Dirtrict untill she retired. Travel, cooking and her family and friends were her life's pleasures. Her final resting place will be next to her beloved husband at El Toro memorial Park in Lake Forest, CA. Arrangements by Adair Funeral Home, Dodge Chapel.

I have a Henry CRAWFORD born 23 Feb.1783 in Long Island, New York. He died in Pickering, Ontario, Canada . His sons were: Caleb, b. 1786, Henry B. 23 Feb. 1783 in New York and Jacob 1777.I do not know where he was born. Any help with this family would be much appreciated. Dottie -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 118 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Ann, thank you so much for the lineage on Sarah! So you have any idea of who this grandson, David Holt might be? Who were his parents? If he was a minor in abt. 1686, he must have been born about 1669........... Thanks so much, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Avery Hunter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: [CRAWFORD] David Crawford's Daughter Sarah > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary L. Thompson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [CRAWFORD] David Crawford's grandson, David Holt > > >> As Crawfords, who can assume that David Holt's mother has to be David >> Crawford's daughter Sarah, > > > David Crawford's daughter Sarah was the wife of Thomas Poindexter and then > the Rev. James Brechin. The relationship is spelled out in suits recorded > in > the Louisa Co, VA Clerk's office, mentioning her father David Crawford, > both > husbands, and her sister Elizabeth Meriwether. Transcriptions can be found > in Janice Abercrombie's "Louisa County, Virginia Judgments", Iberian > Publishing Co., 1988. > > Sarah had 5 children by Thomas Poindexter and 4 by the Rev. James Brechin. > Her will was written in June, 1751 and recorded 23 March 1753 in Louisa > Co., > VA., Will Book 1, p. 27 > > Ann > --- > Ann Avery Hunter > Winston-Salem, NC > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have complete genealogy records for my Crawford ancestors dating back to David S. Crawford - born 1824 in southern Illinois and married to Margaret Jane Gasaway. I do NOT have any earlier records as to his parents etc. I believe that David's folks were from KY, but have no actual proof. Does anyone have this earlier Crawford lineage? Really would like some help. Thanks Cliff Karch ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary L. Thompson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [CRAWFORD] David Crawford's grandson, David Holt > As Crawfords, who can assume that David Holt's mother has to be David > Crawford's daughter Sarah, David Crawford's daughter Sarah was the wife of Thomas Poindexter and then the Rev. James Brechin. The relationship is spelled out in suits recorded in the Louisa Co, VA Clerk's office, mentioning her father David Crawford, both husbands, and her sister Elizabeth Meriwether. Transcriptions can be found in Janice Abercrombie's "Louisa County, Virginia Judgments", Iberian Publishing Co., 1988. Sarah had 5 children by Thomas Poindexter and 4 by the Rev. James Brechin. Her will was written in June, 1751 and recorded 23 March 1753 in Louisa Co., VA., Will Book 1, p. 27 Ann --- Ann Avery Hunter Winston-Salem, NC

MODESTO BEE MODESTO, CA 8/7/2007 Gertrude Trannie Crawford 6/17/1907-8/3/2007 Age 90, passed away at her home in Keyes Ca, She was a homemaker. She was the mother of Dora Lee Pennington of Berry, AL: Ralph Crawford of Hickman, CA; Minnie Barnes of Waterford, CA:; Claudie Crawford of Berry, AL; L.D. Crawford of Ely, NV. ; Jerry Crawford of Ceres, CA; Kathy Breckenridge of Keyes, CA; Sandra Gantt of Modesto, Ca. She was preceded in death by her husband LeeDell Crawford. Funera; Services Aug 7, 2007 at Salas Brothers Funeral chapel. Committal at Ceres Memorial Park.

Mary Thompson, Would you please contact me at my personal address? Thanks [email protected]

>From "The Patrish Register of Saint Peter's, New Kent County, Va. from 1680 to 1787", published by the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America in the State of Virginia, 1966 page 4 "Peter negro belonging to David Crawford borne ye 10th of Oct. 1688" page 56 "John Craford Departed this Life ye 13 day of December 1689" I am curious, from all of the printings I have seen on John Crawford of Jamestown, it states that he died in Bacon's Rebellion some 13 years earlier............. But I have also seen writings which state that no one has found any record of John serving in Bacon's Rebellion, I wonder where this information is coming from and it source. In the parish records, all deaths of children are listed as "infant son" or "infant daugher" of the parents. Deaths of adults are always listed as the above for John Crawford is listed, so the above can be concluded to be the death of an adult. I am wondering if this is not the record of the death of John Crawford who came with his son David to Jamestown in 1643. He may have been younger that we had at first been lead to believe. There could not have been very many, if indeed anyone other that John Crawford of Kilbernnie in the area at this time....... And the above negro being born to David Crawford in 1688 has to be David, the son of John of Kilbernnie. The gift of land to David Holt by David Crawford was in 1686. The time line is right for all of these people, and the location is right. Mary

For those of you who are interested in David Crawford, of New Kent and Hanover Counties, VA., and the deed in which David Crawford gives some land to his minor grandchild, David Holt, I have found some clues. As Crawfords, who can assume that David Holt's mother has to be David Crawford's daughter Sarah, as we have the lineages for all of the rest of his daughters. I have just learned, from a cousin of mine who is also a descendant of Michale Holt of the Second Colony of Virginia, that her aunt, Maudie Marie Holt (Mrs. Arch Bruce Marshall) had written a book a number of years ago on the Holts and list a grandson of Michale (by the name of John Holt) who married a Sarah, no last name given. So, here is one clue. On the FTM message boards, there is a conversation on Robert Holt/David Holt/Hanover Co., VA. #4722, which states that "David Holt's parents were John Holt and _________Crawford, possibly Ann. David and MArgaret Dibdall named their first daughter Ann. John Holt was the grandson of the first Holt into Virginia, Randall Holt of Hog Island, who arrived in 1620. I don't think there is probably any connection between the Robert Holt and the Randall Holt descedants." >From these two sources, there seems to be two different Holt lines in Va very early. I think that our Sarah Crawford probably married a "John Holt" and died very early, as there seems to be other wives for these John Holt's. It is just unclear to me which of the lines are correct for our John Holt, but at least I do think the name of Sarah's husband was indeed John Holt. We know that the early generations named their children after their ancestors, and the first daughter was usually named for a grandmother. Since David Crawfords mother died before he and his father, John Crawford, came to America (Jamestown) could this be an indication that John's wife was named "Ann". Of could this mean that Sarah named her daugher after her mother, the wife of David. At this time no one seems to have any indication as to who the wife of the first David was........................ It looks like form the message boards that this Holt family also married into the Davies family, and we know that the Davies family also married into the Crawford family in Amherst Co. Va., names into the desdendants of Capt. David Crawford, son of the above David Crawford. This is just for your consideration as I have not documentated this information, I am relaying others research on to you. Mary

Hi, Even though we do not match I sure do thank you for checking for me. The best of luck with your searches. Dottie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 12:03 AM Subject: CRAWFORD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 147 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: CRAWFORD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 146 (K Powell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 07:03:53 -0700 (PDT) > From: K Powell <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] CRAWFORD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 146 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Sorry, the only families I've identified moved from MD to PA, OH and the US > midwest states. > >> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:26:57 -0700 >> From: "Dottie" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] CRAWFORD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 145 >> >> Did your Crawford family have any descendents who moved to Oxford County, >> Canada? I have a David Crawford who lived and raised his children in >> Canada. >> Dottie > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. > http://sims.yahoo.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CRAWFORD list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the CRAWFORD mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CRAWFORD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 147 > **************************************** > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 34 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Sorry, the only families I've identified moved from MD to PA, OH and the US midwest states. > Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:26:57 -0700 > From: "Dottie" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] CRAWFORD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 145 > > Did your Crawford family have any descendents who moved to Oxford County, > Canada? I have a David Crawford who lived and raised his children in > Canada. > Dottie ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/

Did your Crawford family have any descendents who moved to Oxford County, Canada? I have a David Crawford who lived and raised his children in Canada. Dottie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:03 AM Subject: CRAWFORD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 145 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. David CRAWFORD abt 1710 Scotland - 1785 Frederick Co, MD > (K Powell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:08:24 -0700 (PDT) > From: K Powell <[email protected]> > Subject: [CRAWFORD] David CRAWFORD abt 1710 Scotland - 1785 Frederick > Co, MD > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Some digging: I learned that while we "knew" he disembarked at Philadelphia > harbor, records of marriages and births recorded at Christ Church indicate that > at least David Jr of the 6 known children did not move from Philadelphia PA to > MD until during the Revolution. Merion twp Philadelphia formed 1714(?); > Montgomery County PA formed 1784 from part of Philadelphia County. > > This family moved to Frederick County MD during the Revolution some time > between the births of David Jr's sons Thomas CRAWFORD (born 31 Jul 1775 > Philadelpia, Merion, PA) and Samuel CRAWFORD (born 25 Jan 1778 New Windsor, > Frederick, MD). This information indicates that all 6 children of David Sr were > born in Philadelphia, not MD, strongly suggesting that the whole family moved > about that time. > > Not long after, we see that the family begins migrating out further. Much of > who moved where when is unclear but by the War of 1812-14 Frederick Co MD is > clearing out of Crawfords. Some have tantalizingly moved, or moves are > suggested, to OH during or after that war. I've little doubt that some may have > moved "south", to VA and the states that mega state was broken up into. > > Part of why we don't find them in Frederick Co MD much after census has begun > is that same effect - some are in Carroll County. Carroll Co MD didn't exist > until about 1840 when it was created about half each from Frederick & adjoining > Baltimore Co. Some of these Crawfords are found there & some apparently marry > at Baltimore. > > At the time of his death 1785 David Sr's will indicates that his wife was "Mgt" > Margaret, I had hoped to learn who the mother of his children were. Repeated > online gedcoms show her to have been a Jane Douglas but I haven't yet found any > documentation for that. Their last child was born 1740 is as close as I've > gotten, so far. > > That 1785 will names David Sr's children Jonas, John, Thomas, David and > Abigail, including deceased James, but fortuitously names James' children. I > think I have tracked that James' son David L to Preble Co OH, then Rush Co, IN > by 1819. Thanks to this Crawford bunch's Litigous Genes, court records supply > additional documents. David L's son David A even sued his own father. > > More work to do, genealogy research is obsessive! > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? > Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CRAWFORD list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the CRAWFORD mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CRAWFORD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 145 > **************************************** > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 34 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Some digging: I learned that while we "knew" he disembarked at Philadelphia harbor, records of marriages and births recorded at Christ Church indicate that at least David Jr of the 6 known children did not move from Philadelphia PA to MD until during the Revolution. Merion twp Philadelphia formed 1714(?); Montgomery County PA formed 1784 from part of Philadelphia County. This family moved to Frederick County MD during the Revolution some time between the births of David Jr's sons Thomas CRAWFORD (born 31 Jul 1775 Philadelpia, Merion, PA) and Samuel CRAWFORD (born 25 Jan 1778 New Windsor, Frederick, MD). This information indicates that all 6 children of David Sr were born in Philadelphia, not MD, strongly suggesting that the whole family moved about that time. Not long after, we see that the family begins migrating out further. Much of who moved where when is unclear but by the War of 1812-14 Frederick Co MD is clearing out of Crawfords. Some have tantalizingly moved, or moves are suggested, to OH during or after that war. I've little doubt that some may have moved "south", to VA and the states that mega state was broken up into. Part of why we don't find them in Frederick Co MD much after census has begun is that same effect - some are in Carroll County. Carroll Co MD didn't exist until about 1840 when it was created about half each from Frederick & adjoining Baltimore Co. Some of these Crawfords are found there & some apparently marry at Baltimore. At the time of his death 1785 David Sr's will indicates that his wife was "Mgt" Margaret, I had hoped to learn who the mother of his children were. Repeated online gedcoms show her to have been a Jane Douglas but I haven't yet found any documentation for that. Their last child was born 1740 is as close as I've gotten, so far. That 1785 will names David Sr's children Jonas, John, Thomas, David and Abigail, including deceased James, but fortuitously names James' children. I think I have tracked that James' son David L to Preble Co OH, then Rush Co, IN by 1819. Thanks to this Crawford bunch's Litigous Genes, court records supply additional documents. David L's son David A even sued his own father. More work to do, genealogy research is obsessive! ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/

I would love to see it. Jean Crawford Thanks John Crawford was the name of my husbands grandfather in the WW1 and 2. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Thomas Crawford 1784/5 VA >I just received today a copy of a picture of a "John Crawford" per >inscription on the back of the pictures. No date, but it looks WWI vintage >to me. It was in with pictures of descendants of our Thomas Crawford > >George Washington Crawford> Thomas Jefferson Crawford. My files are boxed >up right now, but didn't Thomas or George have a son named John Cyrus? I >can email the picture if?anyone would?like to see it. > June > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mimi <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 8:01 pm > Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Thomas Crawford m. Jenny James > > > > Hi Marilyn --- > > I posted a query much like the one I posted here, but with my great > grandfather > and mother (James Monroe and Nancy Riggs instead of Thomas and Jenny, and > it was > included in the reply. James Monroe was the son of Moses. Since I am > homebound, I do all my research on the computer and can seldom "prove" > what I > get. I do let people know when I communicate with them that my > information is > not proven by me, but I am always searching, trying to either prove, > disprove or > add to my database. > > Unless I can find where my information came from (I have voluminous files > from > now and from when I researched at Clayton Genealogical Library years ago), > I > will remove her name from my information. It is a daunting task to plow > through > my files. I primarily use my FTW program now, but of course, try to keep > hard > copies of anything I get my hands on. > > Since you are a descendant of Thomas, would you mind sharing your line > with me? > > Thanks for letting me know. > > Mimi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marilyn Conner > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:53 PM > Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Thomas Crawford m. Jenny James > > > Mimi-- > > Where did you find the identity of Thomas' wife? Other descendants have > searched for years and not been able to come up with her name. > > IMHO, an early Crawford researcher misread the (1850 or 1860 - can't > remember) > Itawamba Co MS census which does show a male "James" as the son of Thomas > but > somehow that got translated into "Jenny" and waaalllaaa, she became the > wife of > Thomas. The information was posted on a website and now the whole > geneology > world thinks Thomas (1784-85 VA) was married to Jenny. I've tried to > straighten this out before, and now Jenny has become "Jenny James." If > someone > can show me a document naming Jenny as the wife of Thomas, I will be glad > to > include her in my records, but until that happens, I will go on believing > it is > a mistake that continues to propogate itself. > > No offense intended toward Mimi or anyone else. I have made my share of > mistaken postings, too. > > Marilyn Griffin Conner - > descendant of Miranda Crawford Hancock, Thomas Crawford's daughter > > Mimi <[email protected]> wrote: Thomas b. abt 1784 in Va., Jenny b. > abt > 1780 in SC. Both wound up in Fulton, Itawamba County, Mississippi. 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I just received today a copy of a picture of a "John Crawford" per inscription on the back of the pictures. No date, but it looks WWI vintage to me. It was in with pictures of descendants of our Thomas Crawford > George Washington Crawford> Thomas Jefferson Crawford. My files are boxed up right now, but didn't Thomas or George have a son named John Cyrus? I can email the picture if?anyone would?like to see it. June -----Original Message----- From: mimi <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 8:01 pm Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Thomas Crawford m. Jenny James Hi Marilyn --- I posted a query much like the one I posted here, but with my great grandfather and mother (James Monroe and Nancy Riggs instead of Thomas and Jenny, and it was included in the reply. James Monroe was the son of Moses. Since I am homebound, I do all my research on the computer and can seldom "prove" what I get. I do let people know when I communicate with them that my information is not proven by me, but I am always searching, trying to either prove, disprove or add to my database. Unless I can find where my information came from (I have voluminous files from now and from when I researched at Clayton Genealogical Library years ago), I will remove her name from my information. It is a daunting task to plow through my files. I primarily use my FTW program now, but of course, try to keep hard copies of anything I get my hands on. Since you are a descendant of Thomas, would you mind sharing your line with me? Thanks for letting me know. Mimi ----- Original Message ----- From: Marilyn Conner To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Thomas Crawford m. Jenny James Mimi-- Where did you find the identity of Thomas' wife? Other descendants have searched for years and not been able to come up with her name. IMHO, an early Crawford researcher misread the (1850 or 1860 - can't remember) Itawamba Co MS census which does show a male "James" as the son of Thomas but somehow that got translated into "Jenny" and waaalllaaa, she became the wife of Thomas. The information was posted on a website and now the whole geneology world thinks Thomas (1784-85 VA) was married to Jenny. I've tried to straighten this out before, and now Jenny has become "Jenny James." If someone can show me a document naming Jenny as the wife of Thomas, I will be glad to include her in my records, but until that happens, I will go on believing it is a mistake that continues to propogate itself. No offense intended toward Mimi or anyone else. I have made my share of mistaken postings, too. Marilyn Griffin Conner - descendant of Miranda Crawford Hancock, Thomas Crawford's daughter Mimi <[email protected]> wrote: Thomas b. abt 1784 in Va., Jenny b. abt 1780 in SC. Both wound up in Fulton, Itawamba County, Mississippi. Does anyone have any information about ancestory or descendancy? I will share what I have. Mimi -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2251 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3080 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Hi Marilyn --- I posted a query much like the one I posted here, but with my great grandfather and mother (James Monroe and Nancy Riggs instead of Thomas and Jenny, and it was included in the reply. James Monroe was the son of Moses. Since I am homebound, I do all my research on the computer and can seldom "prove" what I get. I do let people know when I communicate with them that my information is not proven by me, but I am always searching, trying to either prove, disprove or add to my database. Unless I can find where my information came from (I have voluminous files from now and from when I researched at Clayton Genealogical Library years ago), I will remove her name from my information. It is a daunting task to plow through my files. I primarily use my FTW program now, but of course, try to keep hard copies of anything I get my hands on. Since you are a descendant of Thomas, would you mind sharing your line with me? Thanks for letting me know. Mimi ----- Original Message ----- From: Marilyn Conner To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Thomas Crawford m. Jenny James Mimi-- Where did you find the identity of Thomas' wife? Other descendants have searched for years and not been able to come up with her name. IMHO, an early Crawford researcher misread the (1850 or 1860 - can't remember) Itawamba Co MS census which does show a male "James" as the son of Thomas but somehow that got translated into "Jenny" and waaalllaaa, she became the wife of Thomas. The information was posted on a website and now the whole geneology world thinks Thomas (1784-85 VA) was married to Jenny. I've tried to straighten this out before, and now Jenny has become "Jenny James." If someone can show me a document naming Jenny as the wife of Thomas, I will be glad to include her in my records, but until that happens, I will go on believing it is a mistake that continues to propogate itself. No offense intended toward Mimi or anyone else. I have made my share of mistaken postings, too. Marilyn Griffin Conner - descendant of Miranda Crawford Hancock, Thomas Crawford's daughter Mimi <[email protected]> wrote: Thomas b. abt 1784 in Va., Jenny b. abt 1780 in SC. Both wound up in Fulton, Itawamba County, Mississippi. Does anyone have any information about ancestory or descendancy? I will share what I have. Mimi -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2251 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3080 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Mimi-- Where did you find the identity of Thomas' wife? Other descendants have searched for years and not been able to come up with her name. IMHO, an early Crawford researcher misread the (1850 or 1860 - can't remember) Itawamba Co MS census which does show a male "James" as the son of Thomas but somehow that got translated into "Jenny" and waaalllaaa, she became the wife of Thomas. The information was posted on a website and now the whole geneology world thinks Thomas (1784-85 VA) was married to Jenny. I've tried to straighten this out before, and now Jenny has become "Jenny James." If someone can show me a document naming Jenny as the wife of Thomas, I will be glad to include her in my records, but until that happens, I will go on believing it is a mistake that continues to propogate itself. No offense intended toward Mimi or anyone else. I have made my share of mistaken postings, too. Marilyn Griffin Conner - descendant of Miranda Crawford Hancock, Thomas Crawford's daughter Mimi <[email protected]> wrote: Thomas b. abt 1784 in Va., Jenny b. abt 1780 in SC. Both wound up in Fulton, Itawamba County, Mississippi. Does anyone have any information about ancestory or descendancy? I will share what I have. Mimi -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2251 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.

Dottie / Sylvia, I have a Simeon and Eliza Martin Crawford. Simeon is my wife's GGG Uncle. I believe his father's name was Jacob and his mother's name was Jemimah? Stevens Crawford. We have more information but we also have many blanks. We would very much like to exchange data with you both. Jim and Mary Lennon -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: [email protected] > Dottie, My g-g-grandparents were Simeon and Eliza Crawford and I have more > information on them. However, I will be away from home until after the middle > of September. > > If you want to contact me direct at that time I can share what I know. > > Sylvia Foster > > > > > Hi List, > > > Would anyone have a Simeon Crawford b. 1801 and died 1888 in Florida. He > > > married Eliza MARTIN and moved to Michigan about 1855. > > > > > > I know Simeon had a brother named Henry Crawford born 1783 probably in N.Y. > > > or PA. and that is about it. Thanks for reading my email. Dottie in Calif. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message