Hello Barbara, My Crawfords come from New Brunswick Canada and, as far as I know, there are no Lizze Bell Crawfords in the line. Sorry that I can't help and good luck with your quest. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] new to the list > Hello, > Thank you for looking and Lizzie Bell Crawford married Archaball Gary > sorry > if I made a mistake and put Gray. > Barbara > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] new to the list > > >> No one in my family named Lizzie Bell Crawford, and no one by the name of >> Gray. >> >> Jane >> >> >> >> **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's >> hottest >> products. >> (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Judy, Again I wish to give thanks to you for your help. I should have known better as I never saw and of my mom or dads family that was never talked about a NO-NO so you would think I would have asked on my sons and daughter families but thought all families were like mine so I was glad to get what I did on my sons fathers side. My daughters fathers side I don't even have any last names for the females and only abt. years as her father was killed when I was 2 mos. pregnant and they didn't like talking about family either as she my daughter's grandmother was a child of rape. Which I have to start also just trying to get my sons dads line going first. Again thank you, Barbara [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Penland" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Asking again can anyone help please > Hi Barbara, > > The social security death index gives Viola's birth date as 15 Sep 1908 > and her death as 28 May 2000, Gerber, Tehama, CA and her s.s. # issued in > Colorado. There is also an old address for her in Corona, Kings, CA. > > Unfortunately, we almost all start when it's too late to glean > information from older relatives. If I weren't a pack rat, I wouldn't > have had all the information I did have to start my research. It was long > after my parents and my husband's parents had passed away. > > Good luck in your search and if I can be of any further help, just email > me direct. > > Judy, in NC > > Barbara Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Judy, > Thank you this gives me names, dates and places which is so much more than > I > had. On the 1930 census Lon Gary must be dead which is why L.B. Gary is > head > of house her name is Lizzie Bell and William is her son who is my sons > g-grandfather (grandpee) and Viola his wife is granny we called her she is > my sons g-grandmother I only saw them twice Johnny my boys father was > killed > in a car wreck and Wanda the daughter moved to Okla. for years she came > back > here to CA. when she found she had cancer and died about a month later. > Voila also died her in CA. just don't know where. I think she had about 5 > children. > Thank you Judy as I was so young and had no idea about family research > back > then I just had her give me names for my son baby book wish now I had her > wrote down all she knew, > Barbara > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Penland" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:19 PM > Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Asking again can anyone help please > > >> Hi Barbara, >> I have no relationship to your Crawford or Gary line, but I have looked >> at Ancestry.com and found a little information. It is only a little, but >> it might give you something to build on. >> 1930 Census, Precinct 3, Donley, Texas lists William Gary age 22 b. abt. >> 1908 Texas and wife Viola age 21. The previous household is Mrs. L.B.Gary >> age 48 b. TN with children Buck age 23, Pearl age 20, Dee (son) age 18, >> J.C. (son) age 16, Gladys age 13, Ellanor (?) age 11 and Anniebell age 9. >> The chldren were all born in TX. Also, it lists Mr. L.B. as married, but >> she's the head of household and no sign of Arch. >> >> The 1910 census, Precinct 2, Dickens, Texas had Arch Gary age 37 married >> 9 yrs b Arkansas, Lizzie age 27 b. TX, having had 4 children and all 4 >> living. The children are listed as Nora age 7, Elige (son) age 4, Nelson >> age 2 and Pearl age 3/12. >> >> 1900 Census Justice Precinct 3, Fannin, TX has a Crawford, Ju(unreadable) >> b. Jan 1850 TX (both parents born TN). Shows him as married, but no wife >> listed. Children at home are Ada b. Sep 1890 age 9, Claud b Apr 1896 age >> 4, Jo (son) b Apr 1886 age 14, and Lizzie b Oct 1882 age 17. This may be >> your Lizzie, but I couldn't find any other census years to follow up on. >> >> A death record is listed for William Nelson Gary b. 6 Dec 1907 Texas, >> died 26 Oct 1991 Kings. This is in the California Death Index for 1940 - >> 1997. >> >> Hope this is a little help. Sorry it couldn't be more. >> >> Good luck. >> Judy, in NC >> >> Barbara Smith wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> I am new to this list and starting my research on a new family line and >> hope I there is someone that belongs to this family or someone may be >> able >> to help me. >> I am looking for thes people Archaball Gary that married a Lizzie Bell >> Crawford they has a sone named William Gary born abt. 1907 he married >> Viola Mae Seymour her parents were Minnie Cannon and Lon Seymour. >> I know this is very little to go on I had William's wife write out this >> information for me when she was really old and I was very young and >> stupid >> for not getting more information. I know William died in CA. and she puts >> maybe's on the place of death for his parents and no dates. Archaball >> Gary >> may have died in Texas and Lizzie Bell Crawford Gary may have died in >> Alpaugh CA. >> >> Thank you for any help, >> Barbara >> [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try >> it now. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. 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If Larry W.CRAWFORD is still on this Mail List, please get in touch with me. If anyone knows his current address, phone, snail or email, I really do need to get in touch with him. Please. Thanks Wanda

Judy, you are a kind sole. Barbara, I'm sure we all wish we had listened to the stories of our elders. Keep hunting and a lot of information will come together. Good luck, Nancy On 11/25/07 10:48 PM, "Barbara Smith" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Judy, > Thank you this gives me names, dates and places which is so much more than I > had. On the 1930 census Lon Gary must be dead which is why L.B. Gary is head > of house her name is Lizzie Bell and William is her son who is my sons > g-grandfather (grandpee) and Viola his wife is granny we called her she is > my sons g-grandmother I only saw them twice Johnny my boys father was killed > in a car wreck and Wanda the daughter moved to Okla. for years she came back > here to CA. when she found she had cancer and died about a month later. > Voila also died her in CA. just don't know where. I think she had about 5 > children. > Thank you Judy as I was so young and had no idea about family research back > then I just had her give me names for my son baby book wish now I had her > wrote down all she knew, > Barbara > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Penland" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:19 PM > Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Asking again can anyone help please > > >> Hi Barbara, >> I have no relationship to your Crawford or Gary line, but I have looked >> at Ancestry.com and found a little information. It is only a little, but >> it might give you something to build on. >> 1930 Census, Precinct 3, Donley, Texas lists William Gary age 22 b. abt. >> 1908 Texas and wife Viola age 21. The previous household is Mrs. L.B.Gary >> age 48 b. TN with children Buck age 23, Pearl age 20, Dee (son) age 18, >> J.C. (son) age 16, Gladys age 13, Ellanor (?) age 11 and Anniebell age 9. >> The chldren were all born in TX. Also, it lists Mr. L.B. as married, but >> she's the head of household and no sign of Arch. >> >> The 1910 census, Precinct 2, Dickens, Texas had Arch Gary age 37 married >> 9 yrs b Arkansas, Lizzie age 27 b. TX, having had 4 children and all 4 >> living. The children are listed as Nora age 7, Elige (son) age 4, Nelson >> age 2 and Pearl age 3/12. >> >> 1900 Census Justice Precinct 3, Fannin, TX has a Crawford, Ju(unreadable) >> b. Jan 1850 TX (both parents born TN). Shows him as married, but no wife >> listed. Children at home are Ada b. Sep 1890 age 9, Claud b Apr 1896 age >> 4, Jo (son) b Apr 1886 age 14, and Lizzie b Oct 1882 age 17. This may be >> your Lizzie, but I couldn't find any other census years to follow up on. >> >> A death record is listed for William Nelson Gary b. 6 Dec 1907 Texas, >> died 26 Oct 1991 Kings. This is in the California Death Index for 1940 - >> 1997. >> >> Hope this is a little help. Sorry it couldn't be more. >> >> Good luck. >> Judy, in NC >> >> Barbara Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> I am new to this list and starting my research on a new family line and >> hope I there is someone that belongs to this family or someone may be able >> to help me. >> I am looking for thes people Archaball Gary that married a Lizzie Bell >> Crawford they has a sone named William Gary born abt. 1907 he married >> Viola Mae Seymour her parents were Minnie Cannon and Lon Seymour. >> I know this is very little to go on I had William's wife write out this >> information for me when she was really old and I was very young and stupid >> for not getting more information. I know William died in CA. and she puts >> maybe's on the place of death for his parents and no dates. Archaball Gary >> may have died in Texas and Lizzie Bell Crawford Gary may have died in >> Alpaugh CA. >> >> Thank you for any help, >> Barbara >> [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try >> it now. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Barbara, The social security death index gives Viola's birth date as 15 Sep 1908 and her death as 28 May 2000, Gerber, Tehama, CA and her s.s. # issued in Colorado. There is also an old address for her in Corona, Kings, CA. Unfortunately, we almost all start when it's too late to glean information from older relatives. If I weren't a pack rat, I wouldn't have had all the information I did have to start my research. It was long after my parents and my husband's parents had passed away. Good luck in your search and if I can be of any further help, just email me direct. Judy, in NC Barbara Smith <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Judy, Thank you this gives me names, dates and places which is so much more than I had. On the 1930 census Lon Gary must be dead which is why L.B. Gary is head of house her name is Lizzie Bell and William is her son who is my sons g-grandfather (grandpee) and Viola his wife is granny we called her she is my sons g-grandmother I only saw them twice Johnny my boys father was killed in a car wreck and Wanda the daughter moved to Okla. for years she came back here to CA. when she found she had cancer and died about a month later. Voila also died her in CA. just don't know where. I think she had about 5 children. Thank you Judy as I was so young and had no idea about family research back then I just had her give me names for my son baby book wish now I had her wrote down all she knew, Barbara [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Penland" To: Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Asking again can anyone help please > Hi Barbara, > I have no relationship to your Crawford or Gary line, but I have looked > at Ancestry.com and found a little information. It is only a little, but > it might give you something to build on. > 1930 Census, Precinct 3, Donley, Texas lists William Gary age 22 b. abt. > 1908 Texas and wife Viola age 21. The previous household is Mrs. L.B.Gary > age 48 b. TN with children Buck age 23, Pearl age 20, Dee (son) age 18, > J.C. (son) age 16, Gladys age 13, Ellanor (?) age 11 and Anniebell age 9. > The chldren were all born in TX. Also, it lists Mr. L.B. as married, but > she's the head of household and no sign of Arch. > > The 1910 census, Precinct 2, Dickens, Texas had Arch Gary age 37 married > 9 yrs b Arkansas, Lizzie age 27 b. TX, having had 4 children and all 4 > living. The children are listed as Nora age 7, Elige (son) age 4, Nelson > age 2 and Pearl age 3/12. > > 1900 Census Justice Precinct 3, Fannin, TX has a Crawford, Ju(unreadable) > b. Jan 1850 TX (both parents born TN). Shows him as married, but no wife > listed. Children at home are Ada b. Sep 1890 age 9, Claud b Apr 1896 age > 4, Jo (son) b Apr 1886 age 14, and Lizzie b Oct 1882 age 17. This may be > your Lizzie, but I couldn't find any other census years to follow up on. > > A death record is listed for William Nelson Gary b. 6 Dec 1907 Texas, > died 26 Oct 1991 Kings. This is in the California Death Index for 1940 - > 1997. > > Hope this is a little help. Sorry it couldn't be more. > > Good luck. > Judy, in NC > > Barbara Smith wrote: > Hello Everyone, > I am new to this list and starting my research on a new family line and > hope I there is someone that belongs to this family or someone may be able > to help me. > I am looking for thes people Archaball Gary that married a Lizzie Bell > Crawford they has a sone named William Gary born abt. 1907 he married > Viola Mae Seymour her parents were Minnie Cannon and Lon Seymour. > I know this is very little to go on I had William's wife write out this > information for me when she was really old and I was very young and stupid > for not getting more information. I know William died in CA. and she puts > maybe's on the place of death for his parents and no dates. Archaball Gary > may have died in Texas and Lizzie Bell Crawford Gary may have died in > Alpaugh CA. > > Thank you for any help, > Barbara > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try > it now. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

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Hello, Thank you for looking and Lizzie Bell Crawford married Archaball Gary sorry if I made a mistake and put Gray. Barbara [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] new to the list > No one in my family named Lizzie Bell Crawford, and no one by the name of > Gray. > > Jane > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Judy, Thank you this gives me names, dates and places which is so much more than I had. On the 1930 census Lon Gary must be dead which is why L.B. Gary is head of house her name is Lizzie Bell and William is her son who is my sons g-grandfather (grandpee) and Viola his wife is granny we called her she is my sons g-grandmother I only saw them twice Johnny my boys father was killed in a car wreck and Wanda the daughter moved to Okla. for years she came back here to CA. when she found she had cancer and died about a month later. Voila also died her in CA. just don't know where. I think she had about 5 children. Thank you Judy as I was so young and had no idea about family research back then I just had her give me names for my son baby book wish now I had her wrote down all she knew, Barbara [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Penland" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Asking again can anyone help please > Hi Barbara, > I have no relationship to your Crawford or Gary line, but I have looked > at Ancestry.com and found a little information. It is only a little, but > it might give you something to build on. > 1930 Census, Precinct 3, Donley, Texas lists William Gary age 22 b. abt. > 1908 Texas and wife Viola age 21. The previous household is Mrs. L.B.Gary > age 48 b. TN with children Buck age 23, Pearl age 20, Dee (son) age 18, > J.C. (son) age 16, Gladys age 13, Ellanor (?) age 11 and Anniebell age 9. > The chldren were all born in TX. Also, it lists Mr. L.B. as married, but > she's the head of household and no sign of Arch. > > The 1910 census, Precinct 2, Dickens, Texas had Arch Gary age 37 married > 9 yrs b Arkansas, Lizzie age 27 b. TX, having had 4 children and all 4 > living. The children are listed as Nora age 7, Elige (son) age 4, Nelson > age 2 and Pearl age 3/12. > > 1900 Census Justice Precinct 3, Fannin, TX has a Crawford, Ju(unreadable) > b. Jan 1850 TX (both parents born TN). Shows him as married, but no wife > listed. Children at home are Ada b. Sep 1890 age 9, Claud b Apr 1896 age > 4, Jo (son) b Apr 1886 age 14, and Lizzie b Oct 1882 age 17. This may be > your Lizzie, but I couldn't find any other census years to follow up on. > > A death record is listed for William Nelson Gary b. 6 Dec 1907 Texas, > died 26 Oct 1991 Kings. This is in the California Death Index for 1940 - > 1997. > > Hope this is a little help. Sorry it couldn't be more. > > Good luck. > Judy, in NC > > Barbara Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Everyone, > I am new to this list and starting my research on a new family line and > hope I there is someone that belongs to this family or someone may be able > to help me. > I am looking for thes people Archaball Gary that married a Lizzie Bell > Crawford they has a sone named William Gary born abt. 1907 he married > Viola Mae Seymour her parents were Minnie Cannon and Lon Seymour. > I know this is very little to go on I had William's wife write out this > information for me when she was really old and I was very young and stupid > for not getting more information. I know William died in CA. and she puts > maybe's on the place of death for his parents and no dates. Archaball Gary > may have died in Texas and Lizzie Bell Crawford Gary may have died in > Alpaugh CA. > > Thank you for any help, > Barbara > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try > it now. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Barbara, I have no relationship to your Crawford or Gary line, but I have looked at Ancestry.com and found a little information. It is only a little, but it might give you something to build on. 1930 Census, Precinct 3, Donley, Texas lists William Gary age 22 b. abt. 1908 Texas and wife Viola age 21. The previous household is Mrs. L.B.Gary age 48 b. TN with children Buck age 23, Pearl age 20, Dee (son) age 18, J.C. (son) age 16, Gladys age 13, Ellanor (?) age 11 and Anniebell age 9. The chldren were all born in TX. Also, it lists Mr. L.B. as married, but she's the head of household and no sign of Arch. The 1910 census, Precinct 2, Dickens, Texas had Arch Gary age 37 married 9 yrs b Arkansas, Lizzie age 27 b. TX, having had 4 children and all 4 living. The children are listed as Nora age 7, Elige (son) age 4, Nelson age 2 and Pearl age 3/12. 1900 Census Justice Precinct 3, Fannin, TX has a Crawford, Ju(unreadable) b. Jan 1850 TX (both parents born TN). Shows him as married, but no wife listed. Children at home are Ada b. Sep 1890 age 9, Claud b Apr 1896 age 4, Jo (son) b Apr 1886 age 14, and Lizzie b Oct 1882 age 17. This may be your Lizzie, but I couldn't find any other census years to follow up on. A death record is listed for William Nelson Gary b. 6 Dec 1907 Texas, died 26 Oct 1991 Kings. This is in the California Death Index for 1940 - 1997. Hope this is a little help. Sorry it couldn't be more. Good luck. Judy, in NC Barbara Smith <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Everyone, I am new to this list and starting my research on a new family line and hope I there is someone that belongs to this family or someone may be able to help me. I am looking for thes people Archaball Gary that married a Lizzie Bell Crawford they has a sone named William Gary born abt. 1907 he married Viola Mae Seymour her parents were Minnie Cannon and Lon Seymour. I know this is very little to go on I had William's wife write out this information for me when she was really old and I was very young and stupid for not getting more information. I know William died in CA. and she puts maybe's on the place of death for his parents and no dates. Archaball Gary may have died in Texas and Lizzie Bell Crawford Gary may have died in Alpaugh CA. Thank you for any help, Barbara [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.

Hello Everyone, I am new to this list and starting my research on a new family line and hope I there is someone that belongs to this family or someone may be able to help me. I am looking for thes people Archaball Gary that married a Lizzie Bell Crawford they has a sone named William Gary born abt. 1907 he married Viola Mae Seymour her parents were Minnie Cannon and Lon Seymour. I know this is very little to go on I had William's wife write out this information for me when she was really old and I was very young and stupid for not getting more information. I know William died in CA. and she puts maybe's on the place of death for his parents and no dates. Archaball Gary may have died in Texas and Lizzie Bell Crawford Gary may have died in Alpaugh CA. Thank you for any help, Barbara [email protected]

Hello Everyone, I am new to this list and starting my research on a new family line and hope I there is someone that belongs to this family or someone may be able to help me. I am looking for thes people Archaball Gary that married a Lizzie Bell Crawford they has a sone named William Gary born abt. 1907 he married Viola Mae Seymour her parents were Minnie Cannon and Lon Seymour. I know this is very little to go on I had William's wife write out this information for me when she was really old and I was very young and stupid for not getting more information. I know William died in CA. and she puts maybe's on the place of death for his parents and no dates. Archaball Gary may have died in Texas and Lizzie Bell Crawford Gary may have died in Alpaugh CA. Thank you for any help, Barbara [email protected]

That was a good catch. I don't know anything about a Phillip Crawford, but his identity is of great interest. Bob Chope ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Does anyone have further information on these Crawfords? From VA Marriages to 1800 David Crawford married Christian Terry, 22 Dec 1782 Moses Crawford married Susanna Willis, 22 Dec 1782 Elizabeth Crawford married Stephen Clever, 7 Mar 1793 Strather Crawford married Nancy Hutison, 5 Oct 1800 I'm wondering if these people are related to George Crawford who was in the area at the same time. Ann

While researching using "Cavaliers and Pioneers, Abstracts of Virginia Land Patentd and Grants, 1623-1666", on page 271 I found the following entry: "George Smith, 200 acs. on S. side of Yorke Riv. behind land of George Gills & upon land of Rice Hutcheson. 8 Mar. 1652, p. 163. Trans. of 4 pers: George Smith, Phill. Crafford, John Crafford, Elizab. Crafford." I found this very interesting, could this be the John Crawford from Ayrshire? Does anyone know of a Phill. Crafford(Crawford) Thanks, Mary

Just curious if any this Crawford group had participated in the Crawford-DNA project. My line is Lazarus Crawford that originally came from North Carolina, Tennessee, then Oklahoma. I don't have by records very organized but it seems like we had 1-brother go to Arkansas and there was a cemetary record of that. I just read all the roosweb communications thinking some day we'll hit pay dirt. We have found several DNA matches that haven't found the common relative yet. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MICHAEL CRAWFORD Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Wiliam 1850, Washington, ARK The 1850 census for Cane Hill, Washington County, Ark. lists the family of James Crawford, age 47, born in Tenn., his wife Lucivy, age 49, born in Tenn, and 5 children, Andrew, age 26, born in Tenn, Margaret, and 18, born in Ark, William, age 17, born in Ark. Do you know if this William Crawford moved to La Grange, Fayette County, TX by 1870? I am trying to find a William Thomas Crawford, or it may be William J. Crawford, that moved to La Grange, and married Sarah Elizabeth Bean Dec. 21, 1870.Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: Mimi<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Wiliam 1850, Washington, ARK Can you give more information? Like the name of James' wife, other census info like state where born, etc.? Thanks. Mimi ----- Original Message ----- From: MICHAEL CRAWFORD To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:34 PM Subject: [CRAWFORD] Wiliam 1850, Washington, ARK Anyone have any information about William Crawford listed on the Cane Hill, Washington County, Ark census of 1850? The census states he was 17, living with his father James Crawford and family. They lived close to Richard H. Bean, who moved to La Grange in Fayette County, TX. Did this Crawford family move to La Grange, TX also? Michael Crawford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3578 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len<http://www.spamfighter.com/len> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The 1850 census for Cane Hill, Washington County, Ark. lists the family of James Crawford, age 47, born in Tenn., his wife Lucivy, age 49, born in Tenn, and 5 children, Andrew, age 26, born in Tenn, Margaret, and 18, born in Ark, William, age 17, born in Ark. Do you know if this William Crawford moved to La Grange, Fayette County, TX by 1870? I am trying to find a William Thomas Crawford, or it may be William J. Crawford, that moved to La Grange, and married Sarah Elizabeth Bean Dec. 21, 1870.Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: Mimi<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] Wiliam 1850, Washington, ARK Can you give more information? Like the name of James' wife, other census info like state where born, etc.? Thanks. Mimi ----- Original Message ----- From: MICHAEL CRAWFORD To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:34 PM Subject: [CRAWFORD] Wiliam 1850, Washington, ARK Anyone have any information about William Crawford listed on the Cane Hill, Washington County, Ark census of 1850? The census states he was 17, living with his father James Crawford and family. They lived close to Richard H. Bean, who moved to La Grange in Fayette County, TX. Did this Crawford family move to La Grange, TX also? Michael Crawford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3578 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len<http://www.spamfighter.com/len> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can you give more information? Like the name of James' wife, other census info like state where born, etc.? Thanks. Mimi ----- Original Message ----- From: MICHAEL CRAWFORD To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:34 PM Subject: [CRAWFORD] Wiliam 1850, Washington, ARK Anyone have any information about William Crawford listed on the Cane Hill, Washington County, Ark census of 1850? The census states he was 17, living with his father James Crawford and family. They lived close to Richard H. Bean, who moved to La Grange in Fayette County, TX. Did this Crawford family move to La Grange, TX also? Michael Crawford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3578 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Anyone have any information about William Crawford listed on the Cane Hill, Washington County, Ark census of 1850? The census states he was 17, living with his father James Crawford and family. They lived close to Richard H. Bean, who moved to La Grange in Fayette County, TX. Did this Crawford family move to La Grange, TX also? Michael Crawford

Hello Listers, I am from Australia and after 20 odd years have much to share. In recent times I have found A Crawford link back to Ireland, although I have not checked it out lately. Herewith my web site, which I can update with a Word Doc I have in the file... ISAB ELLA CRAWFORD born Glasgow was mother of HELEN McKAY while her father was JOHN McKAY obviously both married in Glasgow....Surnames SARKIES too Just for now the web page... and I will be happy to share with anyone from these is Glasgow names or ADAM CRAWFORD from Ireland. Thelma (Bostock) Birrell in Queensland Crawford : www.electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/crawfor2.html U.K. families : http://matthewbirrell.50megs.com/index.html

Hi Bob, As you say, don't think there are any connections. The Ralston side of my family were Scots/Irish but they are related further down the track. CRAWFORDS definitely from Scotland. Regards, George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert T. Crawford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [CRAWFORD] CRAWFORD Janet > Hi George, > > I don't think there are any relationships here. Are these places in > Scotland? We are Irish/Scots I think. > > My Gr.Gr Grandfather Robert Crawford came to Port Hope in Upper > Canada about 1830. He claimed to be born in Ireland in 1800 and > married a Martha Boyd b. 1807 from Co. Cavan, Ireland. > > Thanks for trying. > Bob. > Robert T. Crawford > Researching Crawford, Pugh, Creasor, > Gyles, Rathbone, Mott, > > >> I have a relative named JANET CRAWFORD (who hasn't?) who was born >> in BEITH, AYR in the early part of the 1800's. >> >> There are at least two born at this time and the problem is to >> sort out which is which. >> >> There is one born in 1804 and the other in 1807. As she was >> married in 1822 at DALRY to DAVID WHITEFORD the 1804 one would >> seem to be the logical choice as that would make her 18 at the time >> of marriage. If it were the other one she would only be 15. >> >> Her children were, in order of birth, JANET 1823, ROBERT 1824, >> MARGARET 1829, ELIZABETH 1831, JEAN 1832,JAMES 1835, MARY 1837, >> EUPHEMIA 1839, DAVID 1842, CATHERINE 1845. >> >> I have endeavoured to prove which are her parents using the >> Scottish naming pattern and this doesn't seem to work. JANET (1804) >> has parents ALEXANDER & MARGARET (LOUDON) and there is no sign of >> any Alexanders in any generations. >> >> JANET (1807) has parents WILLIAM & JANET (Robertson) again with >> neither fitting the pattern. >> >> The only other possibility (????) is a marriage of JAMES >> CRAWFORD & JANET DICKIE 1793 in DALRY. I can find no trace of >> children to this couple. What makes the marriage a feasible one is >> that the original Janets (1804,1807) have a grand daughter named >> JANET DICKIE RALSTON. >> >> This may all seem garbled but it may help an enquiring mind >> help me solve the problem. >> >> George >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRAWFORD- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message