Hi, Does this fit in with anyone else’s family tree? On 18 March 1822, the baptism is recorded in Castlecomer of Elizabeth Cranston, daughter of Margaret (nee Jones) and John Cranston of Gurteen, Castlecomer in Reg 5 entry 95.Gurteen appears to be a hamlet to the west out of Castlecomer. However, I have also discovered a Gurteen further north in county Sligo. This is the first of three records I have of a John Cranston in Castlecomer, the last being the death of my ancestor in 1851, nearly 30 years later. If this were the same person, then our John would have been about 29 years at the time. Shalom, Chris Christopher N Ridings http://www.chrisridings.blogspot.com On 24 Dec 2013, at 5:39 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:09:49 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CRANSTON] Cranstons in Ireland > > Author: ScottRCAnderson > > Hi, Marci, > > These families coming from Roxborough Scotland in the 1850s to Ireland and Canada seem to be only distantly related to us, probably from before 1670. > > James is a pretty common name amongst Scots and Scots-Irish. For example, John Cranston and Mary Moore had an eldest son named James (born Monaghan, Ireland, 1785 -- we're descended from his younger brother Thomas). Probably James was also John Cranston's father's name, too (based on the Scots naming rule). > > Scott > > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 17:38:06 -0500 > From: Laura <[email protected]> > Subject: [CRANSTON] William Cranston born 1824 > > > I am researching a branch of the Cranston clan that I am reasonably sure was from Ireland. I have had to use conjecture to some extent but what I am searching for is the link between Ireland and Wales. My 4 times great grandfather was a journeyman mason named William Cranston who was born around 1824. I found a William Cranston, listed as a Mason from Ireland, in the 1851 census living in Knarsdale, Northumberland, England. There are very few Cranston's in Wales but my ancestor then shows up in 1856 in Glamorgan Wales, married to Margaret McKiverigan, and listed as a mason on the birth certificate of my 3 times great grandfather (also William Cranston) who was born in 1856. My 4 time great grandfather William died in 1859 of Phithisis. My 3 times great grandfather also married an Irish woman in Wales and was married in the Catholic church which leads me to believe that the family was Catholic at one point and I thought that might help in determining where they may ! ha! > ve lived in Ireland. > > Any help I can get I would appreciate. > > Laura > > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 06:39:30 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [CRANSTON] William Cranston (b. ? 1647), Muntober, Parish of > Kildress, Co. Tyrone, Ireland > > Author: ScottRCAnderson > > William Cranston (b. ? 1647) had settled in Muntober, Parish of Kildress, Co. Tyrone, by 1664. He may have come to Ireland from Scotland or possibly England, or he may be a descendant of the Co. Fermanagh Cranstons who were part of the original plantation of northern Ireland around 1619. He is described as "Colonus" in his son John's biographical information at Trinity College Dublin, which seems to be Latin for "Colonist"or "Settler", suggesting that he was a recent arrival to Muntober (though it could simply mean "Farmer"). > > In the fifteen years from 1641, Ireland was in turmoil due to the Irish rebellion concurrent with the English Civil War, until Oliver Cromwell suppressed the rebels. A large number of lands were forfeited, often given to Cromwell's soldiers. This timing raises the question of whether William Cranston could have been one of those soldiers. But evidence suggests otherwise: > > 1) Published lists of these soldiers do not show a William Cranston; > 2) William Cranston's son John became an archdeacon in the Church of Ireland, suggesting alignment of the family with the Stuart King Charles I rather than with Cromwell and the Puritans; > 3) Muntober was deeded to the Church of Ireland during the original plantation and when deeded away may more likely have gone to an Anglican; > 4) And, I recently discovered, Muntober was not one of the forfeited townlands, as can be seen in the Down Survey of Ireland, which was used to catalog the lands to be forfeited and is now online: > > http://downsurvey.tcd.ie/down-survey-maps.php#bm=Dungannon&c=Tyrone&indexOfObjectValue=-1&indexOfObjectValueSubstring=-1&p=Lisan Derriloran and Kildresse > > This map, which has northeast upward, shows that from Kildress, only the townlands of Drumshanbo, Magheraglass, Strews, and what appears to be Kildress Lower were forfeited. These are in the northeastern part of Kildress, just southwest of the parishes of Derryloran and Lissan, which also appear on the map. > > http://applications.proni.gov.uk/geogindx/tyro.htm > > Townlands in the unforfeited areas aren't delineated, but comparing with Google maps we can find the approximate location of Muntober, not directly but presumably in the vicinity of Muntober Road, about five miles west of Cookstown, and just below (southwest) of Feegarran and Creevagh. So it can't be confused with any of the forfeited lands. > > Scott (probably 8th great grandson of William Cranston) > > **************************************