I haven't contributed lately but suddenly feel the need. PLEASE make sure you change your subject lines so they reflect the information you wish to share. I'm sure many of us have deleted a lot of these latest e-mails with the STOP and HARDLY subject notations and, by so doing, have probably missed some legitimate genealogy information. If you're someone who is on a number of lists or if you receive a multitude of e-mails every day or if your time is limited, I'm sure you skim right to what's pertinent to you and delete the excess. Thanks! Just one of my personal pet peeves.

I am afraid if you do not change this subject line to the name of the Craig ancestor you are talking about.....your message is getting deleted by half of the list. Don't risk someone not seeing something important to you...or them.... by using a subject line that does not have anything to do with the content of your post. Happy Hunting........Judy *********************************************************** cato@primary.net ***********************************************************

You ask for information about John Ross, a man whose stance was both political and controversial not only with regard to the Cherokees but with regard to his use of power. We are unable to do a sanitized genealogy without distorting or completely destorying the truth, you know. The book you asked me about is THE PAPERS OF JOHN ROSS. The University of Oklahoma published it in two volumes.

Hi, I have not done very much toward this subject, but for what this suggestion is worth, I would go to the state archives and then search through county by county. Also, I find it helpful to go to the probate records in any areas you think might turn up something. Also, the National Archives have some lists of Cherokee marriages. If you can get one correct name and follow it, you can turn up all kinds of gems.

Dear Cousins, William, William, William. . . wonderful! Am asking about Matilda Craig also, because I have had numerous contacts with a dear elderly pastor looking for his ancestor, Matilda Craig Jameson - with perhaps a Wisconsin, Northern IL connection. I don't think my Matilda - sister to William - is his, but I ask whenever I can. -----Original Message----- From: Stuart & Grace Mattingly [mailto:rissie@kih.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:54 PM To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CRAIG-L]William Craig b. 1841 Don't we all have William Craig's in our line? Mine was William Craig m. Mary Ann Moore s/o Robert Craig m. Margaret Parrott. Robert is the son on James Craig m. Rebecca Hill. There seem to be many of the same names but so hard to connect to each other. -----Original Message----- From: Dale K. Arthur <darthur@iquest.net> To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com <CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [CRAIG-L]William Craig b. 1841 >Maggie: > I have a William Craig b. abt 1839 Indiana, son of John Craig and >Permelia McCormick. No further info on him at all. > Donna (Clem) Arthur > >MaggieBeth@aol.com wrote: > >> I have a William Craig also who got married in Indian Territory served in >> Civil War from Indiana ..............b. 1841 d. 1915 ................. >> >> ==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== >> All material sent through Craig-L >> is copyright 2000 by its original author >> permission must be obtained from the original author >> for the reuse of any text, "whole or in part". >> Craig Genealogy Web Page >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 >> >> ============================== >> The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! >> http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 > > >==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > All material sent through Craig-L > is copyright 2000 by its original author > permission must be obtained from the original author > for the reuse of any text, "whole or in part". > Craig Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > ==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== All material sent through Craig-L is copyright 2000 by its original author permission must be obtained from the original author for the reuse of any text, "whole or in part". Craig Genealogy Web Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 ============================== Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Don't we all have William Craig's in our line? Mine was William Craig m. Mary Ann Moore s/o Robert Craig m. Margaret Parrott. Robert is the son on James Craig m. Rebecca Hill. There seem to be many of the same names but so hard to connect to each other. -----Original Message----- From: Dale K. Arthur <darthur@iquest.net> To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com <CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [CRAIG-L]William Craig b. 1841 >Maggie: > I have a William Craig b. abt 1839 Indiana, son of John Craig and >Permelia McCormick. No further info on him at all. > Donna (Clem) Arthur > >MaggieBeth@aol.com wrote: > >> I have a William Craig also who got married in Indian Territory served in >> Civil War from Indiana ..............b. 1841 d. 1915 ................. >> >> ==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== >> All material sent through Craig-L >> is copyright 2000 by its original author >> permission must be obtained from the original author >> for the reuse of any text, "whole or in part". >> Craig Genealogy Web Page >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 >> >> ============================== >> The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! >> http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 > > >==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > All material sent through Craig-L > is copyright 2000 by its original author > permission must be obtained from the original author > for the reuse of any text, "whole or in part". > Craig Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

Maggie: I have a William Craig b. abt 1839 Indiana, son of John Craig and Permelia McCormick. No further info on him at all. Donna (Clem) Arthur MaggieBeth@aol.com wrote: > I have a William Craig also who got married in Indian Territory served in > Civil War from Indiana ..............b. 1841 d. 1915 ................. > > ==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > All material sent through Craig-L > is copyright 2000 by its original author > permission must be obtained from the original author > for the reuse of any text, "whole or in part". > Craig Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1

Gary: Hartford City isn't far from me - as the crow flies about 30 miles (of course, the roads go out of the way, but . . . ) I'll check our phone book and see if I can find any of the names you mention there - just in case descendants moved to Anderson or Muncie. Stay tuned. Donna Gary Craig wrote: > Is anyone familiar with a Mrs. William L. Craig of RR #4, in Hartford City, > Indiana or her family. About 15 to 20 years ago she wrote my mother about > our Craig line. The letter was not dated but she mentioned that her daughter > had more information and would be getting in touch with her. The information > she noted in the letter was dead-on target and included information relative > to a Frederick Craig Sr. born in 1796 and his wife Mary Rice. Their Children > were, John Rice Craig, m Lucinda; Lee Craig; Frederick Craig Jr., m Cynthia > A.; Elizabeth m John Tindle, Jame Harvey Craig m Nancy Schrimser (Owenton, > Ky) they ended up in Lyon County, KS.; Hugh Craig m Ester/Easter; William m > Elizabeth Wheat. > > Some of you have provided similar information but I am interested in seeing > if I can find someone connected to Mrs William L. Craig's family. The letter > had the feel that they (mom and Mrs. WLC) knew (or knew of) each other. I > just ran across the letter in some old files. Thought I would give it a > shot! gdc > Gary D. Craig > garygdc@att.net > > ==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > All material sent through Craig-L > is copyright 2000 by its original author > permission must be obtained from the original author > for the reuse of any text, "whole or in part". > Craig Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Gary: It may very well be a lot of help. I'll admit when I used the researchers in England, I didn't give them all the varieties of spellings that you listed. Saxon would explain a lot where our physical attributes are concerned. WHEN I find something I'll post it to the list. Thanks for a lead! Donna (Clem) Arthur Gary Craig wrote: > Dale ... When I was researching my William Craig in Edgar County, Illinois, > I first found him in Indiana... during that search we turned up another > William Craig (unrelated) in that same area. I seem to remember some similar > time frames on some of that family compared to mine but the name Roderick > never cropped up. Roderick/Roderick (as I understand it) is, as you > indicate, a totally English name.... Have you tried the other spellings... > Craige, Kraig, Kreig and the like.... English it may have been but it could > have been from the Saxon lineage and been Kreig or the like. Anyway... not > much help ... but ....good luck! > Gary D. Craig > garygdc@att.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale K. Arthur" <darthur@iquest.net> > To: <CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 8:41 AM > Subject: [CRAIG-L] Persecution and US move > > > Posting again, 'cause it has been awhile. > > > > My first Craig ancestor to come to America was Rodrick Craig, b. abt > > 1740 London England. Now, no matter how I attack it, I can't find > > parrish records indicating a line of Craigs in that area (haven't been > > to England but using their genealogical services) that would explain him > > or his ancestors living in that area. Rodrick was in the King's service > > when he came to America, but fought in the Revolutionary War on the side > > of the colonies. > > I'd like to find out about Rodrick's parents, siblings, etc. Since > > he was born in England, were they a family that was misplaced by the > > things happening in the message from Gary Craig? Were they originally > > in Scotland or Ireland? And if so, was it only his parents who were > > pushed out? What about aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc.? > > I have so many questions about this, but haven't asked the right > > ones yet, as I've found no answers. > > Can anyone on the list fill in any of the blanks on Rodrick's > > history? I know he ended up in Indiana - I've taken photographs of his > > tombstone and it is still legible after 160 years or so. It is a > > Revolutionary War soldier stone. > > > > My line is as follows: > > me - b. 1948 IN > > James E. Clem b. 1918 d. 1996 (born and died in IN) > > Charles E. Clem b. 1897 d. 1981 (b. & d. IN) > > Clara (or Clarinda) Belle Craig b. 1874 d. 1945 (b. & d. IN) > > David Craig b. 1852 d. 1935 (b. & d. IN) > > Daniel Craig b. 1822 d. 1896 (b. & d. IN) > > William Craig b. 1781 North Carolina d. 1873 Indiana > > Roderick (Rodrick) Craig b. 1740 London, England d. 1854 Indiana (not a > > typo) > > > > Thank you for any help you can provide! > > Donna (Clem) Arthur > > > > > > ==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > > All material sent through Craig-L > > is copyright 2000 by its original author > > permission must be obtained from the original author > > for the reuse of any text, "whole or in part". > > Craig Genealogy Web Page > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > > > > > ============================== > > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > > your heritage! > > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > > > ==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > All material sent through Craig-L > is copyright 2000 by its original author > permission must be obtained from the original author > for the reuse of any text, "whole or in part". > Craig Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Tax rolls or land records are great resources. Also, if you know for a fact that he DIED in the area, the death certificate will tell you who the mortician was, and then following that trail you can get all the info from the funeral - which usually contains more wonderful information than you expected! Not many counties recorded death certificates that far back - at least not regularly - but even a funeral held in the home was following "preparation" by a mortician. This was the only lead we had, recently, and it was a gold mine. (another line) Happy Hunting Donna (Clem) Arthur "Brenda L. Minor" wrote: > I found something. Ancestry.com has just listed the 1889-90 directories for > Oklahoma City,OK. It shows the following: > > W. Craig, carpenter, Oklahoma City,OK Year: 1889 > > This is probably my guy. Now, I just need to find out if "W. Craig" was our > "William T. Craig". Any suggestions? > > >From: "Brenda L. Minor" <blminor@hotmail.com> > >Reply-To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com > >To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [CRAIG-L] STOP!! > >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:01:13 -0000 > > > >THANK-YOU! My email box had so much of this political yahoo in it, that I > >finally deleted everything but this one message. I apologize to all Craigs > >who were attempting to locate info on their folks; but I don't need the > >aggravation. > > > >I have a question or two. How do I find more information on any CRAIGS > >living in Indian Territory--late 1800's? My grandfather was William T. > >Craig, 1841-1921 (b: TN or KY) and he fought in the Civil War--serving out > >of Missouri. Q: Was there a William T. CRAIG in MO in 1880? He had a son > >named Porter Craig (Craige?) & a daughter named Laura Lee WaConnie (Connie) > >Craig. I'd be just as happy to locate Uncle Porter. One Aunt said he was > >living in Oklahoma City, OK during the 1950's and she said he was quite old > >at that time. So, he problaby died there. > > > >Since I can't find this family's origins, should I list them on the Orphans > >List? > > > > > >>From: john brandt <jbrandt@ucla.edu> > >>Reply-To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com > >>To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com > >>Subject: [CRAIG-L] STOP!! > >>Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:39:38 -0800 > >> > >> > >>Good morning everyone, > >> > >> Yesterday I was polite. Today I'm the BOSS. Let it be known that > >>anyone continues this political discussion will be dropped from the CRAIG > >>lists. > >>Let's get back to genealogy. > >> > >>John > >> > >> > >>==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > >> CRAIG MAILING LIST > >> The list for the study of Genealogy and History > >> of the Craig Families, here and abroad > >> Craig Genealogy Web Page > >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > >> > >> > >>============================== > >>Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > >>learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > >>http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > >==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > > All Material sent through Craig-L > > is copyright 2000 by its original > > author. Permission must be obtained > > from the original author for the reuse > > of any text "whole or in part". > > Craig Genealogy Web Page > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > > > > >============================== > >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > >your heritage! > >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > All material sent through Craig-L > is copyright 2000 by its original author > permission must be obtained from the original author > for the reuse of any text, "whole or in part". > Craig Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Thank you for the lead - I'll check this out! Ruth L Flanery wrote: > By oral tradition a certain Roderick Craig is related to my Craig line > which goes back to > Monmouth County, NJ. My great grandfather was Archibald Tunis Craig, > born 1814 or 15 > In Manalapan, NJ. His parents were Elizabeth Schenck and John I. Craig. > Some of that > line were here as early as 1628 in New Netherlands. The story also goes > that our > John Craig died at the Battle of Monmouth and left at least one child. > They were all > members of Tennent Presby. Church at Freehold, NJ and went to the Ohio > Territory > which later became Indiana and Illinois. > > ==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > All material sent through Craig-L > is copyright 2000 by its original author > permission must be obtained from the original author > for the reuse of any text, "whole or in part". > Craig Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

I'm looking for a possible connection between the Craig and Robinson (Robertson, Roberson, Robeson) families about the time of the Revolution. My Roberson ancestor named one of his sons Craig Roberson, and the family continued to use the name in succeeding generations, leading me to believe that they might have been connected to a Craig family. James ROBERSON, born 1770-1780 (was his mother a CRAIG?). He md in TN about 1803 to Catherine HELVEY, of Wythe Co VA, daughter of Henry HELVEY and Susannah GALE, and "widow" of Joseph BARRON, an Indian trader. Godspeed implies that they were married at the Watauga Settlement. Moved to Lee Co VA after 1810. Bought land at Cumberland Gap, Lee Co VA in 1813 and 1814. (Other Lee Co families had connections in NC, TN, KY, and VA -- the county touches all of those states.) James made his will in 1835, probated in 1836. Widow and her children moved 1839 to Platte Co MO. Children: 1. (step-son) William Nathaniel Gale BARRON, born 1801, raised by his mother's uncle in Carter Co, TN. 2. (step-daughter) Joanna BARRON, born about 1803, md abt 1820 TN to John W. COLLIER. To MO in 1839. 3. Catherine BARRON or ROBERSON, born about 1805. 4. Rufus Morgan ROBERSON, born about 1811 VA. To GA before 1834; to MO in 1839. Md (1) about 1834 GA to --- SKIDMORE?; (2) 1840 MO to Elizabeth LOMAX, half Cherokee. Died 1897 Holt Co MO. 5. Benjamin Francis ROBERSON, born 1813 VA. To MO in 1839. Md 1841 MO to Cynthia WYNN. Died 1858 Platte Co MO. 6. Thursa ROBERSON, born about 1817 VA. --> 7. Craig F. ROBERSON, born about 1819 VA. To MO in 1839. Md (1) 1843 MO to Elizabeth USSERY; (2) 1852 MO to Margaret STOVALL. 8. Regina ROBERSON, born about 1821 VA. To MO in 1839. Md 1843 MO to James G. RHEA. I would be interested in any connections between Craig and Roberson families that might account for the given name Craig here. Justin Howery justin@howery.net

I found 3 William T. CRAIGs on the Ancestry.com Civil War Pension List. They are as follows: Search Results Database: Civil War Pension Index Combined Matches: 3 William T. Craig View Image OnlineT Image: 1525 State Filed: Widow: Belinda M. Craig Relative: Minor: Comments: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- William T. Craig View Image OnlineT Image: 1526 State Filed: West Virginia and Ohio Widow: Sarah Elizabeth Craig Relative: Minor: Comments: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- William T. Craig View Image OnlineT Image: 1527 State Filed: Michigan Widow: Relative: Minor: Comments: Nick R. Keifer St. Louis, Mo. keifer30@atc-enviro.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Brenda L. Minor <blminor@hotmail.com> To: <CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 5:36 PM Subject: RE: [CRAIG-L] STOP!! > > Hi Marybeth. Well, I haven't got a clue as to what county. So far, all I > know is what the census record for my g.g. grandma showed and that her > birthplace was "Missouri". Since W.T. served in the army (from MO), there > should be a pension record for him and that might give a county or twp. But > he was a Conf.--and I guess I need to write someone in Missouri to get his > records (instead of the National Archives). Since he died in Ark, would his > military record show up in MO or AR? > > Our Craigs were Irish, but we don't know how much Irish and how far back. > THAT's one of the reasons I'm searching... There was some kind of tragedy > that may have led to W.T.'s girls being put into a Catholic Church in Indian > Territory; at least, that's what the rumor is. Connie did marry > early--16-yrs-old. If we have ties to any other states besides > AR>OK>MO>TN-KY, I'm unaware of them. > > All I know is that searching for my CRAIGS has turned from a challenge to a > real pain...But I'd like to know what happened to Connie's mother and who > she was. At least! > > > > > > > > > >From: "Marybeth Shea" <mbshea@toad.net> > >Reply-To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com > >To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: RE: [CRAIG-L] STOP!! > >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:24:47 -0500 > > > >Brenda, > > > >What county in MO? I have a William Craig of the same years,1837- 1919, > >but > >emigrated Ireland in 1849 to Wisconsin. After the Civil War, he lived near > >Cameron, MO, with a number of other Irish Catholic families - Navin, > >Doolin, > >Tobin, Grady, Carlow, Farrell. He homesteaded in South Dakota beginning in > >the 1880s. I ask because I sometimes come across MO Craig information that > >does not fit my family. > > > >Mb > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Brenda L. Minor [mailto:blminor@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 6:01 PM > >To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [CRAIG-L] STOP!! > > > >THANK-YOU! My email box had so much of this political yahoo in it, that I > >finally deleted everything but this one message. I apologize to all Craigs > >who were attempting to locate info on their folks; but I don't need the > >aggravation. > > > >I have a question or two. How do I find more information on any CRAIGS > >living in Indian Territory--late 1800's? My grandfather was William T. > >Craig, 1841-1921 (b: TN or KY) and he fought in the Civil War--serving out > >of Missouri. Q: Was there a William T. CRAIG in MO in 1880? He had a son > >named Porter Craig (Craige?) & a daughter named Laura Lee WaConnie (Connie) > >Craig. I'd be just as happy to locate Uncle Porter. One Aunt said he was > >living in Oklahoma City, OK during the 1950's and she said he was quite old > >at that time. So, he problaby died there. > > > >Since I can't find this family's origins, should I list them on the Orphans > >List? > > > > > > >From: john brandt <jbrandt@ucla.edu> > > >Reply-To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [CRAIG-L] STOP!! > > >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:39:38 -0800 > > > > > > > > >Good morning everyone, > > > > > > Yesterday I was polite. Today I'm the BOSS. Let it be known that > > >anyone continues this political discussion will be dropped from the CRAIG > > >lists. > > >Let's get back to genealogy. > > > > > >John > > > > > > > > >==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > > > CRAIG MAILING LIST > > > The list for the study of Genealogy and History > > > of the Craig Families, here and abroad > > > Craig Genealogy Web Page > > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > > > > > > > >============================== > > >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > >==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > > All Material sent through Craig-L > > is copyright 2000 by its original > > author. 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Can we please change the subject line so that folks know we aren't discussing improper things<g> and are back to our Craigs? I've been automatically deleting those with STOP in the subject line and now realize I've been deleting possible information. Thanks Nancy Welch Searching Craig, Eaton, Rogers, Gray, Fidler, Davolt

I have a William Craig also who got married in Indian Territory served in Civil War from Indiana ..............b. 1841 d. 1915 .................

Hi Marybeth. Well, I haven't got a clue as to what county. So far, all I know is what the census record for my g.g. grandma showed and that her birthplace was "Missouri". Since W.T. served in the army (from MO), there should be a pension record for him and that might give a county or twp. But he was a Conf.--and I guess I need to write someone in Missouri to get his records (instead of the National Archives). Since he died in Ark, would his military record show up in MO or AR? Our Craigs were Irish, but we don't know how much Irish and how far back. THAT's one of the reasons I'm searching... There was some kind of tragedy that may have led to W.T.'s girls being put into a Catholic Church in Indian Territory; at least, that's what the rumor is. Connie did marry early--16-yrs-old. If we have ties to any other states besides AR>OK>MO>TN-KY, I'm unaware of them. All I know is that searching for my CRAIGS has turned from a challenge to a real pain...But I'd like to know what happened to Connie's mother and who she was. At least! >From: "Marybeth Shea" <mbshea@toad.net> >Reply-To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com >To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [CRAIG-L] STOP!! >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:24:47 -0500 > >Brenda, > >What county in MO? I have a William Craig of the same years,1837- 1919, >but >emigrated Ireland in 1849 to Wisconsin. After the Civil War, he lived near >Cameron, MO, with a number of other Irish Catholic families - Navin, >Doolin, >Tobin, Grady, Carlow, Farrell. He homesteaded in South Dakota beginning in >the 1880s. I ask because I sometimes come across MO Craig information that >does not fit my family. > >Mb > >-----Original Message----- >From: Brenda L. Minor [mailto:blminor@hotmail.com] >Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 6:01 PM >To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CRAIG-L] STOP!! > >THANK-YOU! My email box had so much of this political yahoo in it, that I >finally deleted everything but this one message. I apologize to all Craigs >who were attempting to locate info on their folks; but I don't need the >aggravation. > >I have a question or two. How do I find more information on any CRAIGS >living in Indian Territory--late 1800's? My grandfather was William T. >Craig, 1841-1921 (b: TN or KY) and he fought in the Civil War--serving out >of Missouri. Q: Was there a William T. CRAIG in MO in 1880? He had a son >named Porter Craig (Craige?) & a daughter named Laura Lee WaConnie (Connie) >Craig. I'd be just as happy to locate Uncle Porter. One Aunt said he was >living in Oklahoma City, OK during the 1950's and she said he was quite old >at that time. So, he problaby died there. > >Since I can't find this family's origins, should I list them on the Orphans >List? > > > >From: john brandt <jbrandt@ucla.edu> > >Reply-To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com > >To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [CRAIG-L] STOP!! > >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:39:38 -0800 > > > > > >Good morning everyone, > > > > Yesterday I was polite. Today I'm the BOSS. Let it be known that > >anyone continues this political discussion will be dropped from the CRAIG > >lists. > >Let's get back to genealogy. > > > >John > > > > > >==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > > CRAIG MAILING LIST > > The list for the study of Genealogy and History > > of the Craig Families, here and abroad > > Craig Genealogy Web Page > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > All Material sent through Craig-L > is copyright 2000 by its original > author. Permission must be obtained > from the original author for the reuse > of any text "whole or in part". > Craig Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > >==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > All material sent through Craig-L > is copyright 2000 by its original author > permission must be obtained from the original author > for the reuse of any text, "whole or in part". > Craig Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > >============================== >Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi. I just sent an election message after reading some that came to me. I don't usually speak out on the many things I read on this or other lists, but I find the election happenings very disturbing, not just for who won/lost, but for the damage done to our system. But apologies. .

The recent election was a travesty; the flag should have flown half mast at Bush's inauguration. Even if Bush was your candidate, I would hope the past election would leave a very bad taste in your mouth. While taking responsibility is important, the teacher may want to remind her students that, if they can manage to have their brother as governor, the rule about not leaving things out only applies to your opponent. In this case, the republicans went in and fixed a very large number of absentee ballots that, without their corrections, would have been invalid. You can also tell your students that the only thing that matters is winning and ignore the integrity of the process. Encourage them to ignore and ride roughshod over any injustices perpetrated so long a they win, which in this instance clearly meant far more than the fairness of the process or any determination if the results were accurate. I received an e-mail a month or so ago, noting that if this was a third world country and we learned that, of the two presidential candidates, the one who did not win thepopular vote was declared the winner and that even that win was dependent on a clearly flawed vote from the province where his brother was the governor and further, his father was an ex-presidente and former head of the secret police, we would be wondering whether we should send troops in to encourage democrary. I don't think it matters who you support---the american system was badly and tragically perverted and the long earned credibility and neutrality of the supreme court was destroyed when the engaged in political paybacks based upon convoluted logic (which for a number of Justices was directly contradictory to their state's rights stance on other issues).

I found something. Ancestry.com has just listed the 1889-90 directories for Oklahoma City,OK. It shows the following: W. Craig, carpenter, Oklahoma City,OK Year: 1889 This is probably my guy. Now, I just need to find out if "W. Craig" was our "William T. Craig". Any suggestions? >From: "Brenda L. Minor" <blminor@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com >To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CRAIG-L] STOP!! >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:01:13 -0000 > >THANK-YOU! My email box had so much of this political yahoo in it, that I >finally deleted everything but this one message. I apologize to all Craigs >who were attempting to locate info on their folks; but I don't need the >aggravation. > >I have a question or two. How do I find more information on any CRAIGS >living in Indian Territory--late 1800's? My grandfather was William T. >Craig, 1841-1921 (b: TN or KY) and he fought in the Civil War--serving out >of Missouri. Q: Was there a William T. CRAIG in MO in 1880? He had a son >named Porter Craig (Craige?) & a daughter named Laura Lee WaConnie (Connie) >Craig. I'd be just as happy to locate Uncle Porter. One Aunt said he was >living in Oklahoma City, OK during the 1950's and she said he was quite old >at that time. So, he problaby died there. > >Since I can't find this family's origins, should I list them on the Orphans >List? > > >>From: john brandt <jbrandt@ucla.edu> >>Reply-To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com >>To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [CRAIG-L] STOP!! >>Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:39:38 -0800 >> >> >>Good morning everyone, >> >> Yesterday I was polite. Today I'm the BOSS. Let it be known that >>anyone continues this political discussion will be dropped from the CRAIG >>lists. >>Let's get back to genealogy. >> >>John >> >> >>==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== >> CRAIG MAILING LIST >> The list for the study of Genealogy and History >> of the Craig Families, here and abroad >> Craig Genealogy Web Page >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 >> >> >>============================== >>Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >>learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >>http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > All Material sent through Craig-L > is copyright 2000 by its original > author. Permission must be obtained > from the original author for the reuse > of any text "whole or in part". > Craig Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

THANK-YOU! My email box had so much of this political yahoo in it, that I finally deleted everything but this one message. I apologize to all Craigs who were attempting to locate info on their folks; but I don't need the aggravation. I have a question or two. How do I find more information on any CRAIGS living in Indian Territory--late 1800's? My grandfather was William T. Craig, 1841-1921 (b: TN or KY) and he fought in the Civil War--serving out of Missouri. Q: Was there a William T. CRAIG in MO in 1880? He had a son named Porter Craig (Craige?) & a daughter named Laura Lee WaConnie (Connie) Craig. I'd be just as happy to locate Uncle Porter. One Aunt said he was living in Oklahoma City, OK during the 1950's and she said he was quite old at that time. So, he problaby died there. Since I can't find this family's origins, should I list them on the Orphans List? >From: john brandt <jbrandt@ucla.edu> >Reply-To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com >To: CRAIG-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [CRAIG-L] STOP!! >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:39:38 -0800 > > >Good morning everyone, > > Yesterday I was polite. Today I'm the BOSS. Let it be known that >anyone continues this political discussion will be dropped from the CRAIG >lists. >Let's get back to genealogy. > >John > > >==== CRAIG Mailing List ==== > CRAIG MAILING LIST > The list for the study of Genealogy and History > of the Craig Families, here and abroad > Craig Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9791 > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com