Bill, Your post on Richard Walker from Londonderry was absolutely stunning!! The insults, deceptions and incoherent ramblings about the McPheeter family made that one of the great e-mails of all-time, especially when you consider it avoided the critical point, "What evidence do you have that the Walkers were from Newry?" To be labeled an outsider, lacking in basic knowledge of Ulster history, sent a dagger right through my heart. This is not southwest Virginia, big guy, and while you are without question the Master of Minutiae when it comes to the Clinch river boys, it is obvious that Ulster is a problem for you. Perhaps it is the lack of research or the plain fact you just don't want ole Emma to be wrong about anything that clouds your ability to think and makes you lash out, bully, or otherwise try to intimidate people. Well you see, that approach does not work with me because I have no dog in this fight. Having consumed copious amounts of Guinness in both Newry and Londonderry it matters squat to me where the Walkers are from. I enjoyed both towns equally. Let me requote the passage from Emma 1902 to make sure something has not been lost in the translation: "Proscribed because of their religion," and excluded from all positions of trust, what wonder that forebearance ceased to be a virtue-and they were finally driven as outcasts from their beloved land. Ireland, which they hoped to find a more neutral ground, only witnessed renewed persecutions, and after a short sojourn here many of them embarked for America, Londonderry being the home of OUR family who sought refuge on this island for a time." What part of that don't you understand? It has nothing to do with McPheeters or anyone else. A problem exists because you can not accept what Emma says here nor defend what she says about Newry. I feel your pain. >From the register of the Cathedral Church of St. Columb we find the following: Baptismes in April 1721 Anne, the daughter of Mr. Robert Houston and Rebecca his wife baptised the 14th. Don't these names just drive you crazy? Wasn't John Walker married to a Houston? Foregive me, I am but an outsider, dim-witted and lacking in the basics, but good grief the Houston family. Imminent in the annals of Derry, those Houston boys and girls. I think one even shot the flag bearer of King James from the walls of the city. Since nothing has been added to our knowledge of John Walker of Newry in 100 years perhaps we should study his wife's family for clues. Anybody thought of that? Regards, Robert Cowan Outsider, Dim-Wit, evesdropper, but Pig farmer? Nah.