This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cowan/Mitchell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DMQ.2ACIB/818 Message Board Post: Looking for info. on Jenane Cowan born in 1887 in Scotland came to US via Ellis Island between 1903-1908 to help her uncle William Cowan. Settled in Ramsaytown, Jefferson County PA. Married John Mitchell. Any info. on her parents/relatives would be helpful.

Hi to All, I looking for information on the follow people. Robert MARTIN married Susan COWAN. The family lived in Corryhomer, Stranorlor, County Donegal, Ireland, two and half miles from Belmofa. The family of eight children lived in a stone house and their lease consisted of fifty-five acres of tillable land and thirty-five of mountain land, which was sold to a cousin, upon leaving Ireland for America in April 1805. Susan mother's name was thought to be Catherine EDMONSTON. Robert MARTIN had no brothers; but he had two sisters. Martha married a Mr. RANKIN, and Esther married a Mr. BALACKBURN. There is no record of them coming to America. In April of 1805 Robert, Susan, and three of their children sailed from Ireland on the ship, Experiment, and landed in New York in July. They eventually settled near South Shenango Township, Crawford County, Pennsylvania. The reason for Pennsylvania was because Robert only knew one person, Mr. RANKIN, in America and he lived there. Robert and Susan Martin's Children; Jacob b. Feb.1799, Katy, Ellen, Susan, Martha, John, Robert, James Thanks for the help Patty in MN at [email protected]

The last day John and I spent at PRONI was basically to tidy up a bit and copy some of the Cowan documents that we failed to get during the preceeding days. I left this task to John and spent the best part of a day trying my best to dig up something on the Walkers. I searched geographically (Kernan, Kirnan, Newry, Down, Derry) by name (John Walker, Richard Walker, Rutherford, Campbell) and looked at church records. Not a trace, zip, nada but it is very frustrating looking in the National archives of Northern Ireland for a guy named John Walker because there are LOTS of them. However, the thing I remember most vividly was that in almost every instance the John Walker reference would lead to a Quaker rent roll, deed or church record. Almost every time! Your Walkers might not be Quakers but most were. What does this mean? Not much, but if you can tie any Walkers with connections to Thompsons you are on the right track, Quaker or not. I am convinced the answers to the Wigton-Walker questions will not be found by researching Walkers, but rather one of the allied families who followed them around. After John and I found that 1733 letter from Robert Cowan discussing the origins of the Cowan family in Stirling and their removal to Londonderry in the 1620's along with detailed land records including hand-drawn maps showing Alderman Cowan's holdings and the names of the tenants living on his land we had to chuckle. How many times does a researcher find not one, but two relatives discussing the family history with a distant relative and have the luck and good fortune to have both letters preserved. Dr. Cowan's letter in 1895 was almost word for word a restatemnt of Robert Cowan's 1733 letter. That just does not happen in genealogy. I have always said that skill in genealogical research is nice but luck is much better. We were LUCKY and that is whats missing in the Walker research, a little luck. Perhaps it will come in an unexpected relationship with another family, or from a Pennsylvania connection previously thought to be unimportant. Regards, Lucky, Lucky Bob Stirling, Derry, Pa, Va, Tn, Al Aways on the Move

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cowan Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DMQ.2ACIB/817 Message Board Post: I'm looking for any information on Grace or June Cowan born in New York around 1925-45. Father was James Vallance Cowan from Edinburgh, Scotland. He was a merchant seaman all his life. He had three children from a previous marriage in Edinburgh. His first wifes name was Jean Thomson. James Cowan was my maternal grandfather through the daughter of his first marriage.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DMQ.2ACIB/809.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Jean, I have my NY COWAN family only up to 1880. It's entirely possible your Jessie (1890) is linked. Why not try the US Census of 1890 and 1900? The detail of the family in 1880 is: Page 11/ Supervisor Dist 87/ Enumerator. Dist. 240 of NYC. At 126 Horatio Street, NYC COWAN David T.(34) Laborer, b.NY/ fath. Ireland, moth. Ire. C .. Henrietta (35) housekeep, b. NJ/ fath. Mass, moth NJ. C... David B. (7) school b.NY, C... Marion G. (3) home b.NY. C... John C. (1) home b.NY. Regards, Colin Edwards - Sydney

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DMQ.2ACIB/527.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Jean, Sorry. I have a Jessie but she died early in the 1960's an old maid ~ never married and to my knowledge never left the state of Georgia. Looney as they come in her later years, the mirrors in the house had to be covered or removed as she thought she was seeing witches (her own reflection). Good luck in your search!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COWAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DMQ.2ACIB/527.1.1 Message Board Post: I am looking for Jessie COWAN b 1890 in New York. She married John ALBERT and had several children in the 20's. She then married and Ed BROWN. I have pictures of Jessie COWAN. Does this sound familiar?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COWAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DMQ.2ACIB/809.1 Message Board Post: I, too, am looking for COWAN from NY. Jessie COWAN b. 1890 in New York. She married John ALBERT and had several children. Then she married an Ed Brown and she went by the name of Ellen-perhaps a middle name? Does this sound familiar? Jean in Arizona

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COWAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DMQ.2ACIB/816 Message Board Post: Looking for Jessie COWAN b. 1890 in New York. She was married to John ALBERT in the 20's. She had several children with the last name of ALBERT, Pat, John b. 12/23/25, Ann. Jesse also went by the name of Ellen, Perhaps her middle name was Ellen. Then she married an Ed BROWN in New York, in the late 40's-early 50's. I have pictures of Jessie and Ed and Jessie by herself. Would like to make contact with other family members. Jean in Arizona

And the follow-up to the first post as follows: "Thank you David for two most interesting and informative replies to my posts looking for information relating to early 16th century leases to the Cowane family of Stirling. I will look for any surviving Erskine papers to see if any of these leases might have survived. The first person horror story account on the destruction of documents authorized by the Stirling Council contains many lessons for all of us: politicians do not necessarily share the same value systems as geneologists; the priorities required for business decisions regarding allocation of financial resources are not high for bundles of documents that have a high ongoing maintenance cost. Test me ... John Cowane was born about 1570 and died in October of 1633. John's father Walter Cowane was first married to Janet Alexander and secondly to Mariota Chrystison. John was a child along with his sister Maise of the second marriage. Interestingly, there may have also been a son John born of Walter Cowane's first marriage. In my personal quest for the John Cowan who left Scotland and settled in County Down in 1637 "in consequence of a duel," this seems to allow for a step-brother to John whose issue might have high tailed it out of Scotland in 1637 at the time of the distribution of the Cowane estate and the pursuit of Covenanteers by Montrose. It is the several ackowledgements by Cowane's genealogist W. W. Cook in the Stirling Antiquary in the 1890's and the later work of Craig Mair in STIRLING, THE ROYAL BURGH, Edinburgh, 1990 that continues to offer slim straws of hope or else I may be resigned to the roll of a possible decendent of one of John Cowane's two illegitimate sons. I've been called worse. My Ulster research on the Cowan families in Derry and county Down shows that these Cowan merchants organized family cartels in order to monopolize as much as possible all the steps in getting a product to market. All these other Cowans that show up in the printed genealogies had important roles to perform .... farming lands, purchasing hides, hijacking ships, producing spirits, all the day to day activities in which John Cowane, Merchant, Guildsman, profligate fornicator and Privateer was involved. Acknowledged: The family of William Cowane, contemporary with John's grandfather, also John Cowane, Merchant, grocer to the royal household. John Cowane, Hammerman, and a member of the Stirling Council, also a contemporary of John's grandfather. Two illigitimate sons previously alluded to and a legitimate step-brother, issue of Walter Cowan's first marriage. Walter MacCowane and another Cowan who appear in the 1630 Muster Roll of Donegal as servitors of Lord Arthur Chichester, Lord Deputy of Ireland. And the 1733 Statement of Sir Robert Cowan, M.P., Governor of Bombay that the family originally came from Stirling a century earlier. If I could fit Walter Cowan's (John's brother) marrige to Ana Stirling into this I would. But they had no issue. jcmaclay Does anybody have Erskine connections?

A recent post to the Scotch-Irish list forwarded for general interest: In my relentless, unyielding and bull-dogged approach to collar the Cowans of Ulster and chain them to the Cowanes of Stirling, I would like to submit the following 1st person account horror story from Dave Stirling in response to my post on the Stirlingshire list. The stark lesson is that we need to get as many of these unfilmed documents microfilmed before more are wontenly destroyed and that the time to do your research is yesterday, not when (you hope) they will appear on the internet in a few years. jcmaclay There WERE many early documents and references which D.B. Morris would have access to. The earliest archives of the Stirling Town Council, in the early 1950's, were stored (badly and covered with sooty deposits) in the attic of the old Town House in Broad Street. The vandals, who were known then as Stirling Council, sent these to paper salvage (Thames Board Mills) in the 1950's (I worked in the Sanitary Inspector's Office at the time). I examined them at this time, but, of course, was unable to prevent their destruction. One thing Morris missed was some personal data that was there on John Cowane's family. It was also destroyed with other 16th century documents. That is why John Cowane's birth date and baptismal date is "unknown" to most people (Morris does not give it) and why his mother's name is often given wrongly. Even the plaque to him does not have the details, nor an exact death date. His grandmother was a usurer, and John also carried out money lending. Much of his assets were squandered by their recipient, Short. I have read an interesting Bond with information on the activities. The bequest to the town was actually made by his brother (John was dead when it was made) following John's dying wishes. John Cowane's house was a Carpet factory for some time in the 18th century. It was allowed to deteriorate into little more than a ruin by the Town Council he had benefitted. Dave Stirling > from: [email protected] > date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 02:38:04 > to: [email protected] > subject: Re: [SCT-STIRLINGSHIRE] Looking for Leases > > John Cowane's biographer David B. Morris was Town Clerk of Stirling in the > opening decade of the 20th century. > > Morris would have had access to and knowledge of many early 16th century > Stirling documents. > > He writes in his LIFE OF JOHN COWANE that Cowane "probably belonged to a > family of Cowanes who were tenants on long leases of Touchbrayes, Touchgorm > and other lands to the south-west of Stirling." > > Any suggestions as to where one might find these leases of the 1520s and > 1530s. Where these lands of Touch possibly owned by Camstradden Colquhouns? > > Are there somnolent researches in the cradles of the list? > > jcmaclay >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cowan or Cowen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DMQ.2ACIB/390.1.1 Message Board Post: Frank birth place could be Drumhillery or Doogary Armagh Parish of Tynan about 1823 have you look at the root tree I have up in world trees the wedding date is there and more put Francis Cowen or Cowan or try this web site http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jane_teskey&id Do you have New Jersey Cowan from Ireland a Frank???? Jane

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DMQ.2ACIB/390.1 Message Board Post: Jane, What is the birthdate for Frank?

1880 Census Place: Walnut, Cowley, Kansas Source: FHL Film 1254378 National Archives Film T9-0378 Page 644D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Willie COWEN Self M W W 45 IN Occ: Farmer Fa: KY Mo: --- William T. COWEN Son M S W 25 IL Occ: Farmer Fa: IN Mo: KY James B. COWEN Son M S W 20 IL Occ: Farmer Fa: IN Mo: KY Lewela COWEN Dau F S W 16 IL Occ: Keeping House Fa: IN Mo: KY Jesse A. COWEN Dau F S W 12 IL Fa: IN Mo: KY Eliza M. COWEN Dau F S W 8 DAKOTA TERRITORY Fa: IN Mo: KY Evilena COWEN Dau F S W 5 KS Fa: IN Mo: KY

I am looking for my GGGF Willis Cowen's parents birthplace and marriage. I found his family in the 1880 census living in Walnut, Cowley, Kansas. (LDS CD's - wonderful). No wife was listed (dead?) but another source indicates she was Maria or Mariah Wells of Kentucky. Prior to this they lived in Dakota Territory, probably for a short time. Prior to that they lived in Scottsville, Macquopin, Illinois for about 20 years. His son spelled his name Cowan as did my grandmother Ella May Cowan. I have his children's names as of 1880 if anyone is interested. George LeFurjah

I found the following article tonight in Missing Links: AFRICAN AMERICAN GENEALOGY IS WORK AND FUN by Vircher Floyd [email protected] Descendants and heirs of Aaron and Fannie FLOYD have just begun to look into the past of that family and are finding that black genealogy is not easy. It is challenging, though, so should be begun as early as any black family has the urge to trot down that trail. A great-aunt told the family back in 1952 that: . . . a slave owner by the name of Mr. GRIFFITH, who with a family, wife and children, had in their employ a Cherokee Indian female, with the name of Clarissa, by whom he (Mr. --?—- GRIFFITH, or GRIFIETH, or GRIFFIN) fathered a girl child, who was given the name of Fannie GRIFFITH. I never learned just what became of Clarissa (the mother) but the child Fannie remained and was reared in the same household with his wife and children. As a young woman, Fannie met and later married a black by the name of Wallace COWAN. But after a period of time, Fannie's father, Mr. GRIFFITH, decided that Wallace COWAN was no longer suitable for his daughter and subsequently sold him off. As a result of this ill- fated union, a daughter named Alice was born, and Fannie later married Aaron FLOYD taking Alice to that marriage. Fannie and Aaron, together, had two children, John and Nanny FLOYD. Of the three children, Alice was the first to marry. She married a man named Mr. GIBBS and had 15 children, ten of whom I can remember: Sophia, Fannie, Clara, Ann, Rob, John, Will, Ben, Asilee, and Hugh. Nanny later married Rob RICE and to that union six children were born. They were George, Alma, Lillie, Eva, Elbert and Joseph. Joseph was the first World War soldier from Lancaster, Kentucky to die in the service of his country. The American Legion Post of Lancaster, Kentucky was named in his honor "The Joseph RICE Post." Nanny and Alice's brother, John, married Martha BURDETT. Martha was the step-daughter of Josh BURDETT, who much later had married John's mother Fannie. John and Martha had seven children. They were named James, Addie, Commodore, Vircher, and Walker. Two other children, Birdie and Tommy, died in childhood. Now, after Aunt Sophie and virtually all of the relations of her generation have died, FLOYDs who have "skipped a generation" are seeking to learn more about great-grandparents and everyone in between. We are learning that the Indian female was probably not a Cherokee but a Wyandot from Virginia. We have no way of ascertaining for sure the facts in this case, but continue to look. We are pretty sure that Wallace COWAN at first worked on the same farm as Aaron and Fannie FLOYD. We understand that when he was sold or left that GRIFFIETH, GRIFFITH, GRIFFIN, or Christopher FLOYD farm, he bought his freedom or was freed by an Elizabeth COWAN (Mercer or Boyle County, Kentucky), who obtained him from his former owner, whoever that was. He joined the 124th Colored Infantry, USCT. He was twice married "legitimately," first to Ann HARDIN and then to Rachel MUCHS, and last lived in Springfield, Ohio. Why is he so important? Because if we can verify that he was on the first farm with Aaron and Fannie FLOYD, it will help to find the name of the farmer and slave owner and then the county where the farm was located. It will also help to trace Clarissa [--?--] and learn much more about the circumstances under which they all lived. It will help to learn about the contributions they made to the development and growth of the county and country where they lived at that time. We believe that it will help us to understand some of the tastes we have for this or that food, tend to clarify our preferences for certain kinds of work, and even show from where our hairlines have come, and the shape of our noses. It will be fun when we have pulled together this information to pass on to our children. It will make them proud of all that was done on their behalf and give them the reasons for giving to their children shoulders on which to stand -- and step off on their journeys. POST SCRIPT: Since I wrote this, I have received from the National Archives and Records Administration a note indicating that a Wall COWAN's former owner was named Isham VAN NOSTALL or VAN SARSDALE. This is the first information we have about any former owners. We have to verify the county, if we can, and look for deeds. We will, of course, look for census information too. It is somewhat like "detective work." My hope is that someone may see this and clarify, confront, and otherwise add to our picture of the past of Aaron and Fannie FLOYD. My prayer is to finish this work by August 2003 when we have our family reunion. I would like to present a paper of what we have then and persuade other family members to jump aboard and write up our findings together. If anyone has suggestions or additional information, we would be grateful. Be careful, though, because the trail can grow cold very quickly where names may change and/or be nonexistent, where often the dates and ages are mere guesses. Sometimes ages were disguised to avoid paying taxes on "property" and income. PERMISSION TO REPRINT articles from MISSING LINKS is granted unless stated otherwise, provided: (1) the reprint is not used for commercial purposes; and (2) the following notice appears at the end of the article: Previously published in MISSING LINKS, Vol. 7, No. 29, 21 July 2002 http://www.petuniapress.com --- By the way, subscribe to MISSING LINKS at http://www.petuniapress.com Valorie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COWAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DMQ.2ACIB/815 Message Board Post: Well, all I really know of my family is up to my grandfather. His name was Rudolph Valentino Cowan, he had a brother named Lincoln. I think his mother's name was Helen, but that's about all I know. They're from Albany,NY by way of Virginia.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DMQ.2ACIB/814.2 Message Board Post: Monique, a good rule of thumb is -- work from the known to the unknown. In other words, prove what you already know, by charting your own family, and gathering the documents that proved the relationships. In modern times, you can find birth, marriage & death certificates, diplomas, driver's licences, deeds, wills, mortgage papers, etc. Then move back to your parent's generation, and again, prove everything by gathering your evidence. At that point, you might be able to use census records to help you pinpoint their movements. Keep moving back, not forgetting the siblings, multiple marriages, and other complications! You will find that the nature of the records changes as you move back in time, and certificates are no longer available. As you go, you'll figure out what you need. Also, be sure to visit: http://rwguide.rootsweb.com/ You'll find every question you can think of, answered there! Good luck, Valorie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DMQ.2ACIB/814.1 Message Board Post: Hi it's not all that hard you should post the family you do know but if living don't put brith dates Parent, grandparent I foound some living family around the age of 80 and they are full of information I only been doing family tree for 2 1/2 years , there lots of free sites. where was your father born ? look there and if he has living brother or sister Census are great and in the states you can get 1930 go to the LDS near you or you local Library look up death dates and see who else they list in the notice like grandfather try this site http://genealogylinks.net/index.html Jane (Cowan ) Teskey Canada

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COWAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DMQ.2ACIB/814 Message Board Post: Hi! My name is Monique Cowan and I live in Los Angeles. I am trying to trace my family tree and it's kinda hard because I don't really know a lot of my family (ie great grandmas and grandpas, etc) How can I get started in the research and how much does it usually cost? Please contact me with any help. Thanks! [email protected]