This is "dedicated" to Ted and Denise, without whom I may have procrastinated in the transcribing of these letters and other documents. Further postings of the papers that I have will be called "Edwin Covey Collection" because he's the ancestor who originally collected the material. A descendant named Steve Jones inherited the papers and added correspondance of his own. I'm cc'ing him and asking his permission to transcribe the letters he wrote back in the 1980's as well, as I continue transcribing all the papers. By the way, Rita Ackerman, you have my permission to copy anything I post and put it in the print edition of Covey Cousins. Ted Holden [mailto:TIHolden@aol.com] meet Denise Sallee [mailto:densallee@hotmail.com] (if you haven't already) Ted wrote with questions about something I had on the Landphere chart, then asked: > Do you have the parentage of this Elisha Covey, and Elizabeth, who I believe > was a Mott? This is my line, and we cannot prove his parents. I told him to re-send the question after the 23rd (busy with a meeting on 22nd) as I had more paperwork associated with the chart that I hadn't gone through in detail except on my direct line (actually my husband's, but it's easier to say mine). Denise and I have had a few exchanges on some John Coveys and mentioned her ancestor Elisha, and I asked what his wife's name was. In the same mail within two hours of each other, Ted re-sent his message, and Denise replied: > Elisha married Elizabeth Mott dau of Ebenezer Mott and Elizabeth Braman of > Hopkinton RI. They were in Renss Co NY 1790 and I suspect my Elisha was > living with him as he doesn't show up and Eb. has 5 males over 16 > with him. So you two can help each other with the Mott angle if you haven't already connected. Now, on to the letters. You can check the Covey archives on Sickler and his connection to "the Landphear charts". First up are three letters from Fred Sickler to Edwin Covey, of which this is the first. The letterhead is Oceanside Township (San Diego CA) Justice Court stationary which shows him as Constable (& Charles Berry, Justice of Peace). I've interspersed comments in [brackets], standardized state abbreviations, and corrected his consistantly mispelled "decendants", and a couple other spelling errors [but of course there may be typos], but he seems to be a quite literate man and there were few. [Dated 17 Jan 1929] Dear Sir & Covey, I am engaged during my spare time in collecting data & records of the Covey family in the USA and though I would write to you and any aid you may give me concerning your family would be most appreciated. I have record of James Covey of Boston & Braintree MA 1640 to 1651 [no sources state]. I have record of Coveys in MD as early as 1717. I have a great deal concerning Hope Cove or Covey who came to Newport RI in 1680 and settled in Westerly RI. I have also considerable concerning his descendant Hope Covey & family who lived at Farmington, Bristol & Burlington during the Revolution & whose descendants live at present at Brookfield & Lenardsville[?] NY. I have a list of all the Coveys listed in the 1st US census of 1790, Records of Coveys who served in the Revolutionary War, more or less complete genealogy of descendants of Joseph and Theodosia who lived in Windham Co VT and of David & Lynda Covey who lived in St Laurence Co NY, of John Covey who lived in Rensselaer Co NY etc. [I break in to say, I tried to track down his records several years ago, think I remember talking to his son who I think I remember saying they were packed away or something like that. Maybe I'll try again] I am a descendant of Elisha & Elizabeth Covey who were both born in 1770. They had three sons Ebenezer (my great grandfather born in Rensselaer Co NY in 1790), Elisha, and John. [end of page]. My great grandfather moved to Lackawana PA in 1799 and raised a family of 10 children. His brother John lived near Friendship in Allegany Co about the time of the Civil War. I was born in San Diego CA July 12, 1879. Am a graduate of the Carnegie Tech at Pittsburgh PA class of 1910. I have been constable of Oceanside Twp for about 5 years. For reference I refer you to the 1st National Bank of Oceanside, or to any businessman of Oceanside, or any City of Oceanside or County of San Diego Official. I have written to several Coveys among Los Angeles and Pasadena and have received very interesting letters from a Covey in Los Angeles who is a descendant of Theodore Covey, a Baptist Preacher born in Acton VT about 1777. Also a lady in Pasadena who is a descendant of Walter Covey, a Baptist preacher of Dutchess Co NY. It appears that the Early Coveys were either Baptists or 7th Day Baptists. A great deal of my history was obtained from the Rev Paul Burdick who is pastor off the 7th day Baptist Church at Rockville RI. I would be glad to get any dates from Family Bibles - the older the better also names and addresses of any Coveys whether related to you or not who have these records. Kindly write to me, respectfully [abbreviation for it], Fred M Sickler. [end of letter] [Dated 27 Jan 1929] Dear Sir & Covey, I am in receipt of your interesting letter and am sending you a genealogical chart [Landphear chart already transcribed & in the archive] of the records I have been able to find in state, church, census, military and other records being the 1st descendants of Hope Covey who arrived in Newport RI in 1780. It is and has been my opinion that all the Coveys of New England and New York are decednants of above Hope Covey. Such may not be the case, but in all my research of the records and in all my correspondence with descendants of New York Coveys, it appears to me that way. Now this John Covey of yours about when was he born and when did he died and where was he born and where did he live in CT, town? & county?. What was the maiden name of his wife? [Oh how I wish Edwin had kept a copy of his letters to Fred. This is my only clue to someone named John being the ancestor of my William]. How was he related to John Covey born March 16, 1719? How was he related to John Covey who married Desire Classon? How was he related to John Covey of Hoosick & Grafton NY who served in the revolutionary War and died in 1818? How was he related to John Covey, the brother of my great grandfather Ebenezer Covey? This John was born Nov 23, 1794 and afterwards lived near Friendship, Allegany Co NY. About what year did your John Covey settle at Butternuts Twpt, Otsego Co NY? Are you acquainted with the descendants of James Sickler (born about 1810) who lived in Laurens and elsewhere in Otsego Co? Or have you met the Sicklers who lived in Andes and Middlton, Delaware Co NY, or the Sicklers who live at Binghamton NY? Now about your partner, Noble Covey [coincidently Edwin's parter was Noble, not closely related as far as I've been able to determine]. I never heard of him but I am sure I know his family. He is, I believe, a descendant of John Covey, wife's name was Martha, who served in the Revolutionary War & died in Grafton NY in 1818. I have a copy of his will. His sons were John Covey 2nd, Mathew Covey and Samuel Covey. His daugher Polly Covey who married Jonathan Burdick and Clive Walace or Wallis. Two grandsons John Covey 3rd & Sylvester Covey were mentioned in his will. Mathew Covey went to Beartown, Sandgate Township VT where he is buried. He had a son Aaron Covey. Among the records of his family I have the following: "Noble J Covey born May 18, 1830", also "Noble John Covey born Sandgate Township VT born 1857 June 27. Maiden name of mother Eveline born in Hooseck NY, a resident of Sandgate VT. Father of Noble John Covey, Samuel [looks like an intial J] Covey born at Sandgate VT". So I think your partner is of this family. Kindly write again, respectfully, Fred M Sickler, constable, Box 115 Oceanside CA. [end of letter] [undated letter] Dear Sir & Covey [how formal he still is!]. Since writing you I have called on your old friend and partner noble Covey. It appears that his family came from Virginia. I have showed them the photograph of the old wills, petitions, bonds and other documents of CT that I have photographic copies of from the year 1773 to about 1800. Now I would like to know just what part of CT your grandfather John came from and about what year? [He has to mean great grandfather as Edwin's father was Lorenzo and his grandfather was William]. As some of your aunts and uncles lived to be over 100 years old, your John Covey must have settled in Otsego Co before 1825. As appears from the records, I have been able to find James Covey & his wife Mary lived at Mt Wooleystone near Boston from 1640 to 1651 when he sold out. As I find no further record of Coveyin New England until 1680, I presume he sold out and left for the south. [end of page] In 1680, Hope Covey came from Virginia and settled at Westerly & Hopkinton, RI where his descendants, or some of them, lived until 1740 and perhaps later. About this time, some of the family moved across the line in Stonington & New London CT, as I find record of a James Covey there who signed a petition for a road from Stonington to Preston in 1751 & in 1752. The military records show that a James Covey served in the French and Indian War in 1750 in Rhode Island and in 1761 in CT, probably from Lyme CT. Hope Covey, grandson of the 1st Hope, settled near Hartford CT and his body, and those of several of his family are buried near there at Burlington CT, which was formerly part of Bristol & Farmington. Hope Covey settled at Farmington CT shortly before 1767 and it appears that he and his sons and grandsons lived there until about 1800 when they died or scattered. I do know that some of them went ot Brookfield, NY where some of their descendants now live. Kenyon Covey of RI married sarah Kinnie of Rheston[?] Ct and he died at Stirling, Windham Co CT in 1825. He was married in Oct 28, 1789 at Preston CT. [end of page] Randall Covey appears to have lived about Harminton[?], New Hartford, Winchester, Winstead, New Caanen, and other towns in Litchfield CT from about 1800 to 1824. I have not been able to find the name of any Covey who served in the Revolutionary War from CT or from RI although there were a number in Dutchess & Albany counties in NY state and also in VT. I have searched the records in all the CT towns where I found Covey's lived, and for that reason would like to know what town & county your grandfather John Covey came from. John Covey who was born Mar 16, 1717 married Martha Burdick of Stonington CT June 25, 1741. Mr John Covey married Mrs Desire Clossen at Hopkinton RI 10 of Nov 1764 [ah, Denise, this source says RI which agrees with your comment to me off list]. I would like to know the names of all of your grandfather's children. Is there any inscription on your grandfather's grave? I hope you will answer this letter before long. Respectfully, Fred M Sickler [end of letter] Here's hoping someone finds a new clue in all this. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) kathryn.bassett@switchboard.net "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" http://pw2.netcom.com/~kathrynb/kathryn.htm ICQ World-Wide-Pager address http://wwp.mirabilis.com/17663458