Hi Patricia, The departure of an Agnes Gaffigan is very interesting. I don't know if it is my grandmother, but it sure seems as though it might be because of the age and her birth. When she came over in 1912 she was 23, of full age. It is puzzling, however, in that she did marry at Dundalk and her given name at that time would be a McCarroll not Gaffigan. She and Michael Joseph McCarroll were around the Beragh - Omagh area of Tyrone and they did not have my father until 1914. They then settled in Fintona to own a "saloon",as it was called in America, sell shoes, coffins and auction horses - and to raise a passel of kids. This public house was very busy what with all of the children running around. I have been trying to piece this all together to come up with just one "story" because Agnes was very closed mouth about it, and even her children (my father included) did not know much about her early years. They did not know just when Michael J. Carroll (as he used the name after naturalization in San Francisco - and recall, the earthquake and fire destroyed all of those records in San Francisco), had traveled back and forth between Ulster and California. I do know that the John Amos Gaffigan was her father and he had sailed to Moville in 1914, ostensibly to visit his grandson. He was a printer and painter, so the compositor fits. Gaffigan was a very interested person in that he maintained a journal later in life (which caused some in the family to believe a lot of his stories). He was born in Scotland of Irish parents and maintained that he was a Scot, even though his aunts who lived in San Francisco where he and his brother went with his mother when Patrick the father passed away. He wanted to be different than all those Irish that lived in San Francisco at the time. The family went back to San Francisco in 1924, aboard the Cameronia, and they were all U.S. citizens even though the children were born in Ireland. Thank you very much because this does fill in one hole, John Amos Gaffigan's departure for America, and makes the other parts a little more interesting. Regards, jj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Hedley" <patricia.hedley@ntlworld.com> To: <countycork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [CO CORK] Irish brick walls - Connect people to townlands > > Hi Jim > Found these on passenger lists, if you would like full info please let me > know. > Regards > Patricia > > > > Name: Agnes GAFFIGAN > Date of departure: 25 May 1913 > Port of departure: Queenstown > Passenger destination port: New York, USA > Passenger destination: New York, USA > > Date of Birth: 1891 (calculated from age) > Age: 22 > Marital status: > Sex: Female > Occupation: Governess > Passenger recorded on: Page 6 of 9 > > > Ship: > Official Number: > Master's name: > Steamship Line: > Where bound: > Square feet: > Registered tonnage: > Passengers on voyage: > CARONIA > 180826 > D Dow > Cunard > New York, USA > 33010 > 10306 > 232 > > > Name: John A GAFFIGAN > Date of departure: 17 August 1914 > Port of departure: Londonderry > Passenger destination port: New York, USA > Passenger destination: New York, USA > > Date of Birth: 1858 (calculated from age) > Age: 56 > Marital status: > Sex: Male > Occupation: Compositor > Passenger recorded on: Page 10 of 12 > > > > > > Ship: > Official Number: > Master's name: > Steamship Line: > Where bound: > Square feet: > Registered tonnage: > Passengers on voyage: > CAMERONIA > 129599 > F H Wadsworth > Anchor > New York, USA > 23621 > 5935 > 297 > > > > > UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 > You searched for John Gaffigan > > View Record Name Age Birth Date Arrival Date Port of Departure Port of > Arrival View Images > View Record > John Gildas Gaffigan 60 abt 1857 2 Sep 1917 New York, New York, United > States Liverpool, England > View Record > John A Gaffigan 56 abt 1858 20 Jul 1914 New York, New York, United States > Glasgow, Scotland > View Record > John W Gaffigan 30 abt 1865 15 Feb 1895 New York, New York, United States > Moville, Ireland > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Carroll > Sent: 22 November 2009 15:15 > To: countycork@rootsweb.com; IRELAND-ROOTS@rootsweb.com; > IRELAND@rootsweb.com; IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com; > IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com; IRL-TIPPERARY@rootsweb.com; NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CO CORK] Irish brick walls - Connect people to townlands > > Shelia, thank you very much! > > When I saw your posting I went directly to it to see if I could find Agnes > Bridget Gaffigan who arrived at Queenstown on the "Celtic" in July 1912 on > her way to County Tyrone, with a stop-over at St. Patrick's in Dundalk to > get married. She was from San Francisco, California, and married Michael > Joseph McCarroll (or Carroll as he received his citizenship in the U.S.). > But, alas, it was not to be. > > Couldn't even locate a John Gaffigan who arrived sometime in 1914 to visit > his new grandson. > > Hopefully, it will connect some others that are searching. > > > > > Check out the Ireland GenWeb County Cork Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/ > It is a good place to find information related to your family research. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COUNTYCORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message