Ev, When one sees different surnames with that close a match at 67 markers then one has to look for some of the following: 1. an adoption 2. a male who married and changed his name - done on occasion for money to shore up a line that had daughtered out. 3. a child born outside of a marriage and taking either his mother's name or that of a close relative who raised the child. 4. Someone changing his surname to avoid being found, either by the law or a wife. Of our 53 Y-DNA Cousins in our Johnstons in Poldean group I have come across a handful of such events. Interestingly, a Johnston contacted me to take a look at his Y-DNA. I was amazed. He had more than a dozen different surnames that matched him, none of them a Johnston. This verifies the old oral clan history that many Johnston/es were not from our clan, and that many assumed our surname to escape the law or one or more wives;-) With 2 miss-matches in 67 markers from what I've seen I would suggest that the event took place probably somewhere in the 1750's plus or minus 100 years. Good hunting, Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn" <ebayna@ucsd.edu> To: <countycork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [CO CORK] FAMILY TREE DNA >I had my father's DNA done at the 67 level He's John Fahey and there were > only 7 Fahey's done none from Cork and he matched someone named Bullock at > the 37 level and 67 level with 2 mismatches. Now what, maybe he isn't a > Fahey? No answers yet only more questions. > Evelyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Joan FitzGibbon > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:03 AM > To: countycork@rootsweb.com > Cc: mulvihill@rootsweb.com; MCCARTHY@rootsweb.com; conner@rootsweb.com; > MCCARTY@rootsweb.com; CONNOR@rootsweb.com; CONROY@rootsweb.com; > mahoney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CO CORK] FAMILY TREE DNA > > > I had my brother do a 37 marker DNA sample for me on the Fitzgibbon line > and > there are no matches or even close matches. Big disappoint for me since I > am at a brickwall. > There are only 43 others in the study group for Gibbons to compare with of > the same surname, so hopefully there will be more added in future. > > -----Original Message----- > From: countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > KENTUCKYSHAMROCK@aol.com > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:14 AM > To: countycork@rootsweb.com > Cc: mulvihill@rootsweb.com; MCCARTHY@rootsweb.com; conner@rootsweb.com; > MCCARTY@rootsweb.com; CONNOR@rootsweb.com; CONROY@rootsweb.com; > mahoney@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CO CORK] FAMILY TREE DNA > > Has anyone submitted their a male DNA sample to FAMILY TREE DNA? > > If so was it of any help? > > My immediate family has submitted DNA for Connor/Conroy and McCarthy > lines. > > Would be interested in anybody's experience. > > Regards, > > Monica McCarthy > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=htt > p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd > =JulystepsfooterNO115) > Check out the Ireland GenWeb County Cork Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/ > It is a good place to find information related to your family research. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COUNTYCORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.65/2322 - Release Date: 08/24/09 > 06:05:00 > > Check out the Ireland GenWeb County Cork Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/ > It is a good place to find information related to your family research. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COUNTYCORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Check out the Ireland GenWeb County Cork Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/ > It is a good place to find information related to your family research. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COUNTYCORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cliff, you missed a fifth possibility. A married woman bearing a child whose biological father was not her husband--not uncommon, today as well as in the past! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@comcast.net> To: <countycork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [CO CORK] FAMILY TREE DNA > Ev, > > When one sees different surnames with that close a match at 67 markers > then > one has to look for some of the following: > 1. an adoption > 2. a male who married and changed his name - done on occasion for money > to > shore up a line that had daughtered out. > 3. a child born outside of a marriage and taking either his mother's name > or that of a close relative who raised the child. > 4. Someone changing his surname to avoid being found, either by the law > or > a wife.