I remember seeing a posting a while ago about the naming patterns use by Irish families. I do not know for certain the names of parents & grandparents of my ancestor, but am trying to use a process of elimination using the names of the children. Could someone remind me of the naming pattern? I have a Thomas McEvoy who was the son of a David McEvoy & Mary Hayden. Thomas had a son called David and daughters called Mary, Julia, Ellen, Alice, Beatrice, Charlotte & Edith. A first child a girl, named Margaret Rose died soon after arrival in Australia. In Thomas's will, he leaves money to his brother David, and sisters Mary, Ellen & Julia. Is it possible to try to work out what David McEvoy & Mary Hayden's parents' names may have been. Thanks. Jane australia

I thought along those lines until I figured there are potential errors in deducting parents using that pattern. For example: If there were children born to that family you didn't know about - perhaps died before they were ever recorded. The lack of knowledge of their names could throw off your search. If the was a second wife and you didn't know she was a second wife - how could you match up a family with any certainty. -----Original Message----- From: countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Sullivan Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:49 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com; irl-co-kildare@rootsweb.com; countycork@rootsweb.com Subject: [CO CORK] naming patterns for RC Irish families I remember seeing a posting a while ago about the naming patterns use by Irish families. I do not know for certain the names of parents & grandparents of my ancestor, but am trying to use a process of elimination using the names of the children. Could someone remind me of the naming pattern? I have a Thomas McEvoy who was the son of a David McEvoy & Mary Hayden. Thomas had a son called David and daughters called Mary, Julia, Ellen, Alice, Beatrice, Charlotte & Edith. A first child a girl, named Margaret Rose died soon after arrival in Australia. In Thomas's will, he leaves money to his brother David, and sisters Mary, Ellen & Julia. Is it possible to try to work out what David McEvoy & Mary Hayden's parents' names may have been. Thanks. Jane australia Check out the Ireland GenWeb County Cork Website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/ It is a good place to find information related to your family research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COUNTYCORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 2 April 2010 13:48, Jane Sullivan <janeoz123@bigpond.com> wrote: I remember seeing a posting a while ago about the naming patterns use by > Irish families. I do not know for certain the names of parents & > grandparents of my ancestor, but am trying to use a process of elimination > using the names of the children. Could someone remind me of the naming > pattern? > Hi Jane I don't know how close Scottish and Irish naming patters are but for much of Scotland and quite a lot of England the pattern - not rigorously followed!! - is: 1st son - father's father 2nd son - mother's father 3rd son - father Other sons: grandparents' and parents' siblings, best friends, local worthies 1st dtr - mother's mother 2nd dtr - father's mother 3rd dtr - mother Other dtrs: as for other sons Do remember that this is only a general guide and many families didn't use it or some generations decided to ignore it. While your ancestors look as though they may have used it to some extent, it may not have been rigorous. [and note Ellen's comments which are very relevant.] If [big IF] they followed the pattern it looks like Mary Hayden's mother was Margaret. Without more info on the sequence of sons at both levels, working out Thomas's grandfathers' or Mary's father's possible names isn't achievable. -- Best wishes Ray ********************************************************** >From Ray Hennessy Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net Preferred Email address: ray@whatsinaname.net Hints for Scotland's People at http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP **********************************************************

1st son was named after the father's father 2nd son was named after the mother's father 3rd son was named after the father 4th son was named after the father's eldest brother 1st daughter was named after the mother's mother 2nd daughter was named after the father's mother 3rd daughter was named after the mother 4th daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister These patterns were not locked in, so to speak. Garry McFadden Researching Myles, McFadden & Raneous -----Original Message----- From: Jane Sullivan [mailto:janeoz123@bigpond.com] Sent: April-02-10 5:49 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com; irl-co-kildare@rootsweb.com; countycork@rootsweb.com Subject: [CO CORK] naming patterns for RC Irish families I remember seeing a posting a while ago about the naming patterns use by Irish families. I do not know for certain the names of parents & grandparents of my ancestor, but am trying to use a process of elimination using the names of the children. Could someone remind me of the naming pattern? I have a Thomas McEvoy who was the son of a David McEvoy & Mary Hayden. Thomas had a son called David and daughters called Mary, Julia, Ellen, Alice, Beatrice, Charlotte & Edith. A first child a girl, named Margaret Rose died soon after arrival in Australia. In Thomas's will, he leaves money to his brother David, and sisters Mary, Ellen & Julia. Is it possible to try to work out what David McEvoy & Mary Hayden's parents' names may have been. Thanks. Jane australia