Message text written by INTERNET:CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com >I know from marriage and death certs that he should have been born in 1871. Family lore says that he lived at Murray's Model Farm, Cork.< Please remind us, Bob, whether you checked the index to Irish births already. You can view it at an LDS Family History Center and then order the certificate. Wait until you get pre-1830 to talk about brick walls. :>} Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com