Dear David, I saw your message to John on the County Cork list and remembered that you had been kind enough to help me with lots of REID family information a little while ago. I am also copying this to the lists in the hope that if you can't help, David, someone else maybe could! I have now discovered that another branch of my family are possibly from the Fermoy area, and wondered if there is any help or advice you can give me in tracking down my great grandfather, Daniel DOODY, who said he was born in Fermoy in 1843 when he joined the Royal Navy in 1863. He is named as the father of John Doody (my grandfather) on John's marriage certificate in 1915; Daniel is described as a stoker, Royal Navy (deceased). I have not yet been able to find John's birth registration, but his baptism at Cobh Cathedral in 1875 also names Daniel as his father and Hanorah McDonald (sic) as his mother. (Her name is given as Hanora McDonnell on their son Daniel's birth registration in 1880.) From his age of 57 in the 1901 census I had estimated Daniel Doody's date of birth as about 1844. In the 1901 census for Newtown, Queenstown (now Cobh), Co. Cork, the place of birth for Daniel is given as County Waterford; however, in his Royal Navy records (obtained at the Public Record Office, Kew) it is given as Fermoy, Co. Cork, and the date as 12th September 1843, his capacity on board is stoker, later leading stoker. He entered in 1863 and he signed again in 1873 for a further ten years. Since civil registration did not start until 1864 it is not possible to look for the registration of Daniel's birth. I would need to check christenings/baptisms in Fermoy; film #POS 4988 at the National Library in Dublin is a copy of Roman Catholic Baptisms in Fermoy from Sept 15, 1803 - Nov 30, 1880. Unfortunately I have been unable to get to Dublin to look! Is it possible that the enumerator for the 1901 census made a mistake and wrote Co Waterford in error; maybe he thought Fermoy was in Waterford? Equally the town of Fermoy is close to the border with Waterford and the parish of Fermoy might well include places in Co. Waterford. I wrote to the Parish Priest, Father Eugene Baker at The Presbytery, St. Patrick's Roman Catholic Church, Fermoy, County Cork on 21 July 2001, but received the reply that "I cannot find any entry for Daniel Doody for 1843 or for the years preceding or anteceding." In the online IGI there were 8 matches for Birth/Christening for Daniel Doody between 1834 - 1854, in Ireland, but 7 were in Kerry and one in Limerick. None in Co. Waterford, or Co. Cork, though. A search of the BVRI CDs for the birth of a Daniel Doody in 1844 (+ or - 5 years) in Co. Waterford gave no results; as did a search of all counties for similar dates; there were 7 birth entries for Daniel Doody in Ireland, but all were between 1867 and 1871. In the 1901 census the family are living at Newtown Village, DED - Queenstown, Parish - Clonmel, Barony - Barrymore. In 1901 it was in Queenstown Rural No.4. Daniel Doody, Head of Family, Age 57, Pensioner, Born Co. Waterford. Norah Doody, Age 56, Wife, Housekeeper, Born Co. Cork. John Doody, Son, Age 25, Garden Labourer, Born Co. Cork. Theresa Doody, Daughter, Age 23, Seamstress, Born Co. Cork. Daniel? Doody, Son, Age 21, Painter, Born Co. Cork. Additional information from the print out: all Roman Catholic, all could read and write except for Norah who could read only; Daniel and Norah were married, but the three children were all unmarried; all spoke English but not Irish. In a booklet called 'The 150th Anniversary of Newtown From the Watering Place to Newtown' Compiled and Edited by Jimmy and Breda O'Brien, printed by Litho Press Co., Midleton, Co. Cork (published 1996), there is a copy of a list of the 1891 tenants of Newtown; Daniel Doody is shown as the tenant at number 11. Another list of tenants of Newtown during the Easter Rising of 1916 shows the tenant at Number 11 Newtown to be Mrs H. Doody. The 1911 census for Newtown shows Norah Doody as the head of household, a widow; Daniel must therefore have died after the 1901 census and before the 1911 census. I am sorry this is such a long statement, but I thought it would be helpful for you to know the sources I had already tried. I have searched your web site, and the only Doody is a Patrick Doody in the 1827 Tithes, at Clondulane. I hope that you can offer some help! I would be *SO* grateful best wishes, Moira Clevedon, Somerset > -----Original Message----- > From: David N Murray [mailto:dmurray@totalnetnh.net] > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 08:36 > To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Cork] Look-up request > > > Hi; > > For starters - take a look at my web pages for Fermoy. I'll check the > military graveyard records for Fermoy and write you off-list. > > http://www.totalnetnh.net/~dmurray > > Dave > > > > David N. Murray > Email Address: dmurray@totalnetnh.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JCYFRA@aol.com> > To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:24 PM > Subject: [Cork] Look-up request > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > My ancestor gave his age as 17 years when he enlisted in > the15th regiment > of > > Foot at Cork 14/11/1851. > > > > David ROCHE was born at Fermoy in 1834 (calculated) He returned to live > in > > Cork when he was retired to pension in 1873. During his service, > essentially, > > in India, he married Sarah and had six children. The last three are > assumed > > born in England . > > > > I would be very thankful if some helpful person could do a > look-up in the > > local parish register in Fermoy for his baptism records. > > > > Thanking you in advance, > > > > John > > > > jcyfra@aol.com > > > > > > > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > > ** Please use subject line appopriately! Put surnames in all CAPS ** > > > > ______________________________

Hello Moira - I have information on Doodys, however obviously notd yours because mine are from Co. Cork, in a townland named Caherbarnagh in Ballyvourney Parish. Anyway, the real reason for my reply is your name, Forde. I wonder where in Irelandy our Forde's are from? I have Forde family from townlands of Coolclogher, and Loumanagh, in parishs of Cullen and Kilmeen, Co. Cork. If you ever come across any Fordes from that area, let me know. As an aside, my daughter is named Maura Forde Casey - her middle name after my grandmother. Thanks, David Casey --On Sunday, July 07, 2002, 12:24 AM +0100 Moira Forde <mmforde@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Dear David, > > I saw your message to John on the County Cork list and remembered that you > had been kind enough to help me with lots of REID family information a > little while ago. I am also copying this to the lists in the hope that if > you can't help, David, someone else maybe could! > > I have now discovered that another branch of my family are possibly from > the Fermoy area, and wondered if there is any help or advice you can give > me in tracking down my great grandfather, Daniel DOODY, who said he was > born in Fermoy in 1843 when he joined the Royal Navy in 1863. > He is named as the father of John Doody (my grandfather) on John's > marriage certificate in 1915; Daniel is described as a stoker, Royal Navy > (deceased). I have not yet been able to find John's birth registration, > but his baptism at Cobh Cathedral in 1875 also names Daniel as his father > and Hanorah McDonald (sic) as his mother. (Her name is given as Hanora > McDonnell on their son Daniel's birth registration in 1880.) From his age > of 57 in the 1901 census I had estimated Daniel Doody's date of birth as > about 1844. > > In the 1901 census for Newtown, Queenstown (now Cobh), Co. Cork, the place > of birth for Daniel is given as County Waterford; however, in his Royal > Navy records (obtained at the Public Record Office, Kew) it is given as > Fermoy, Co. Cork, and the date as 12th September 1843, his capacity on > board is stoker, later leading stoker. He entered in 1863 and he signed > again in 1873 for a further ten years. > > Since civil registration did not start until 1864 it is not possible to > look for the registration of Daniel's birth. I would need to check > christenings/baptisms in Fermoy; film #POS 4988 at the National Library in > Dublin is a copy of Roman Catholic Baptisms in Fermoy from Sept 15, 1803 - > Nov 30, 1880. Unfortunately I have been unable to get to Dublin to look! > > Is it possible that the enumerator for the 1901 census made a mistake and > wrote Co Waterford in error; maybe he thought Fermoy was in Waterford? > Equally the town of Fermoy is close to the border with Waterford and the > parish of Fermoy might well include places in Co. Waterford. I wrote to > the Parish Priest, Father Eugene Baker at The Presbytery, St. Patrick's > Roman Catholic Church, Fermoy, County Cork on 21 July 2001, but received > the reply that "I cannot find any entry for Daniel Doody for 1843 or for > the years preceding or anteceding." > > In the online IGI there were 8 matches for Birth/Christening for Daniel > Doody between 1834 - 1854, in Ireland, but 7 were in Kerry and one in > Limerick. None in Co. Waterford, or Co. Cork, though. A search of the BVRI > CDs for the birth of a Daniel Doody in 1844 (+ or - 5 years) in Co. > Waterford gave no results; as did a search of all counties for similar > dates; there were 7 birth entries for Daniel Doody in Ireland, but all > were between 1867 and 1871. > > In the 1901 census the family are living at Newtown Village, DED - > Queenstown, Parish - Clonmel, Barony - Barrymore. In 1901 it was in > Queenstown Rural No.4. > Daniel Doody, Head of Family, Age 57, Pensioner, Born Co. Waterford. > Norah Doody, Age 56, Wife, Housekeeper, Born Co. Cork. > John Doody, Son, Age 25, Garden Labourer, Born Co. Cork. > Theresa Doody, Daughter, Age 23, Seamstress, Born Co. Cork. > Daniel? Doody, Son, Age 21, Painter, Born Co. Cork. > > Additional information from the print out: all Roman Catholic, all could > read and write except for Norah who could read only; Daniel and Norah were > married, but the three children were all unmarried; all spoke English but > not Irish. > > In a booklet called 'The 150th Anniversary of Newtown From the Watering > Place to Newtown' Compiled and Edited by Jimmy and Breda O'Brien, printed > by Litho Press Co., Midleton, Co. Cork (published 1996), there is a copy > of a list of the 1891 tenants of Newtown; Daniel Doody is shown as the > tenant at number 11. Another list of tenants of Newtown during the > Easter Rising of 1916 shows the tenant at Number 11 Newtown to be Mrs H. > Doody. The 1911 census for Newtown shows Norah Doody as the head of > household, a widow; Daniel must therefore have died after the 1901 census > and before the 1911 census. > > I am sorry this is such a long statement, but I thought it would be > helpful for you to know the sources I had already tried. > > I have searched your web site, and the only Doody is a Patrick Doody in > the 1827 Tithes, at Clondulane. > > I hope that you can offer some help! I would be *SO* grateful > > best wishes, > > Moira > Clevedon, Somerset > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David N Murray [mailto:dmurray@totalnetnh.net] >> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 08:36 >> To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [Cork] Look-up request >> >> >> Hi; >> >> For starters - take a look at my web pages for Fermoy. I'll check the >> military graveyard records for Fermoy and write you off-list. >> >> http://www.totalnetnh.net/~dmurray >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> David N. Murray >> Email Address: dmurray@totalnetnh.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <JCYFRA@aol.com> >> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:24 PM >> Subject: [Cork] Look-up request >> >> >> > >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > My ancestor gave his age as 17 years when he enlisted in >> the15th regiment >> of >> > Foot at Cork 14/11/1851. >> > >> > David ROCHE was born at Fermoy in 1834 (calculated) He returned to >> > live >> in >> > Cork when he was retired to pension in 1873. During his service, >> essentially, >> > in India, he married Sarah and had six children. The last three are >> assumed >> > born in England . >> > >> > I would be very thankful if some helpful person could do a >> look-up in the >> > local parish register in Fermoy for his baptism records. >> > >> > Thanking you in advance, >> > >> > John >> > >> > jcyfra@aol.com >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== >> > ** Please use subject line appopriately! 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