Jeff - could you give us a sense of where Lackenafasoge is - what part of Co Cork? I have a Mary Keohane, born ca 1820. from around Baltimore, on the Atlantic Ocean, in southwest Co Cork. Barbara in St. Louis, Missouri USA -----Original Message----- From: countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Keohane Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 2:12 PM To: countycork@rootsweb.com Subject: [CO CORK] [CO CORK] Hello, Looking for any information on Dan Keohane; my great, great grandfather. Born circa 1830??? Married to Bridget Barrett Had son Cornelius (b 1853) married to Julia McCarthy lived in Lackenafasoge, and a son Tim (b 1856) married to Hannah Duggan. Thanks!!! Jeff Keohane Check out the Ireland GenWeb County Cork Website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/ It is a good place to find information related to your family research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COUNTYCORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hildanic@aol.com said: >Does anyone know where I'd get records of men who worked on the >railways or trains of County Cork in the second half of the 19th >century, when railways were in fashion? I am specifically interested >in any line that went over the viaduct, near Waterfall, but any clues >or hints at all would be appreciated, as I don't even know where to >start on this one! See: http://www.irrs.ie/ Irish Railway Record Society http://www.irtf-ie.org/ The Irish Railways & Transport Foundation

Pat - my family was also from Skibbereen - emigrating over a period of 40 years. My major surnames are Walsh, Minihane, Connolly and McCarthy [Reagh]. However their are 25 other surnames from Skibb in our tree. Barbara in St. Louis, MO On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:14 AM, <patrickj@att.net> wrote: > My wife, now deceased, had friends that told us about that railroad, and in > fact, my wife's family left Ireland (Skibbereen) on the first segment of > their emigration to the USA (1932). I have sent an E-Mail to some relatives > in Skib asking if they, or friends, might have some information about it. It > probably will take time to receive an answer, but I, too, would like to > learn more about it. Please be patient as they seldom are the speediest in > the world. > > ... Pat (Florida) > > > ] > Check out the Ireland GenWeb County Cork Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/ > It is a good place to find information related to your family research. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COUNTYCORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Pat, You probably mean the Baltimore railway which was a branch of the Cork, Bandon & South Coast . It was an extension running 8 miles from Skibbereen to Baltimore, opened in 1893. It closed down 1 April 1961. If you Email me privately I can get a few pictures together which will give you an indication of what it was like because this list does not allow attachments. Bill Fahy www.westcorkgenealogy.com

My wife, now deceased, had friends that told us about that railroad, and in fact, my wife's family left Ireland (Skibbereen) on the first segment of their emigration to the USA (1932). I have sent an E-Mail to some relatives in Skib asking if they, or friends, might have some information about it. It probably will take time to receive an answer, but I, too, would like to learn more about it. Please be patient as they seldom are the speediest in the world. ...   Pat (Florida)  ]

Thanks Bill. I had read the Wiki article and the impression I had of the book was that it dealt with later than I'm interested in. But given that there seems to be very little else out there, I may just order it anyway. Light Reading of a Spring eve? Thanks again Bill! Hilda On 2010 Beal 9, at 15:13, "Bill Fahy" <wpfahy@comcast.net> wrote: > Check these out! > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cork,_Bandon_and_South_Coast_Railway > > http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/product.php?productid=38865&cat=1061&page= > 1 > > > Bill Fahy > www.westcorkgenealogy.com > > > Check out the Ireland GenWeb County Cork Website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/ > It is a good place to find information related to your family > research. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COUNTYCORK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Check these out! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cork,_Bandon_and_South_Coast_Railway http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/product.php?productid=38865&cat=1061&page= 1 Bill Fahy www.westcorkgenealogy.com

Hello, I am looking for the death of GEORGE ROBERT TUCK, I believe he died in the CORK area between 1906-1911, can anyone advise me how I could find more details, all I know at the moment is he was born 1866 and he was discharged from the army 1906. Thanks for any help. Regards, Syd ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am looking for details about JAMES O'CONNELL from CORK, all I know at the moment is he was a sailor and he lived in the KINSALE area, he married MARY TUCK at KINSALE 1922, if there is any other person researching this family or can help me in any way would they kindly get in touch, thank you. Regards, Syd ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know where I'd get records of men who worked on the railways or trains of County Cork in the second half of the 19th century, when railways were in fashion? I am specifically interested in any line that went over the viaduct, near Waterfall, but any clues or hints at all would be appreciated, as I don't even know where to start on this one! Thanks! Hilda

The Registers of Seamen's Services list a James O'Connell born Cork. It also gives the name of a George Robert Tuck. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/browse-refine.asp?CatID=15&searchType=browserefine&pagenumber=1&query=*&queryType=1 <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/browse-refine.asp?CatID=15&searchType=browserefine&pagenumber=1&query=*&queryType=1> The 1911 census of Ireland has very few Tuck's listed, two are in Kinsale. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/help/history.html Colman Ahern. Berkeley, Calif.

Dear listers. National Archives website is now stating that the 1901 census of all Ireland will be online by the end of June 2010. This will be complete rather than in batches as with the 1911. Great news indeed. You can see the update at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ at the Future Plans link. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Website: http://www.loanegenealogy.webs.com

Hi Garry, Thanks for that printout of naming patterns which I will keep. No this rule was not always followed as shown in my ancestors of Irish birth living in Cardiff Wales. My great grandparents. I know the names of both their fathers but they do not show up until the 3rd and 9th sons name. 1st son was not named for his father's father. Not sure who he was named after but think it was fathers brother. 2nd son was named after his father. 3rd son named after his mothers father and so on Eldest daughter was named after her mother but do not have any information on the fathers and mothers families to check out who the rest of the 8 children were named after. Yes it would be so easy if they all stuck to this rule as it would be so easy to search for those persons wouldn't it? Kind regards, Mary in Nth Qld where it has been raining for a week and we are all sick of it! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry McFadden" <gmcf@telus.net> To: <countycork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [CO CORK] naming patterns for RC Irish families > 1st son was named after the father's father > 2nd son was named after the mother's father > 3rd son was named after the father > 4th son was named after the father's eldest brother > > 1st daughter was named after the mother's mother > 2nd daughter was named after the father's mother > 3rd daughter was named after the mother > 4th daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister > > > These patterns were not locked in, so to speak. > > Garry McFadden > Researching Myles, McFadden & Raneous > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Sullivan [mailto:janeoz123@bigpond.com] > Sent: April-02-10 5:49 AM > To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com; irl-co-kildare@rootsweb.com; > countycork@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CO CORK] naming patterns for RC Irish families > > I remember seeing a posting a while ago about the naming patterns use by > Irish families. I do not know for certain the names of parents & > grandparents of my ancestor, but am trying to use a process of elimination > using the names of the children. Could someone remind me of the naming > pattern? > > > > I have a Thomas McEvoy who was the son of a David McEvoy & Mary Hayden. > Thomas had a son called David and daughters called Mary, Julia, Ellen, > Alice, Beatrice, Charlotte & Edith. A first child a girl, named Margaret > Rose died soon after arrival in Australia. > > > > In Thomas's will, he leaves money to his brother David, and sisters Mary, > Ellen & Julia. > > Is it possible to try to work out what David McEvoy & Mary Hayden's > parents' names may have been. > > Thanks. > > > > Jane > > australia > > > > > > > Check out the Ireland GenWeb County Cork Website at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/ > It is a good place to find information related to your family research. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COUNTYCORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

1st son was named after the father's father 2nd son was named after the mother's father 3rd son was named after the father 4th son was named after the father's eldest brother 1st daughter was named after the mother's mother 2nd daughter was named after the father's mother 3rd daughter was named after the mother 4th daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister These patterns were not locked in, so to speak. Garry McFadden Researching Myles, McFadden & Raneous -----Original Message----- From: Jane Sullivan [mailto:janeoz123@bigpond.com] Sent: April-02-10 5:49 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com; irl-co-kildare@rootsweb.com; countycork@rootsweb.com Subject: [CO CORK] naming patterns for RC Irish families I remember seeing a posting a while ago about the naming patterns use by Irish families. I do not know for certain the names of parents & grandparents of my ancestor, but am trying to use a process of elimination using the names of the children. Could someone remind me of the naming pattern? I have a Thomas McEvoy who was the son of a David McEvoy & Mary Hayden. Thomas had a son called David and daughters called Mary, Julia, Ellen, Alice, Beatrice, Charlotte & Edith. A first child a girl, named Margaret Rose died soon after arrival in Australia. In Thomas's will, he leaves money to his brother David, and sisters Mary, Ellen & Julia. Is it possible to try to work out what David McEvoy & Mary Hayden's parents' names may have been. Thanks. Jane australia

Thanks. Had a feeling it wasn't going to be as easy as that!! Jane Australia -----Original Message----- From: countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray Hennessy Sent: Saturday, 3 April 2010 12:01 AM To: countycork@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CO CORK] [CO CORK] naming patterns for RC Irish families On 2 April 2010 13:48, Jane Sullivan <janeoz123@bigpond.com> wrote: I remember seeing a posting a while ago about the naming patterns use by > Irish families. I do not know for certain the names of parents & > grandparents of my ancestor, but am trying to use a process of elimination > using the names of the children. Could someone remind me of the naming > pattern? > Hi Jane I don't know how close Scottish and Irish naming patters are but for much of Scotland and quite a lot of England the pattern - not rigorously followed!! - is: 1st son - father's father 2nd son - mother's father 3rd son - father Other sons: grandparents' and parents' siblings, best friends, local worthies 1st dtr - mother's mother 2nd dtr - father's mother 3rd dtr - mother Other dtrs: as for other sons Do remember that this is only a general guide and many families didn't use it or some generations decided to ignore it. While your ancestors look as though they may have used it to some extent, it may not have been rigorous. [and note Ellen's comments which are very relevant.] If [big IF] they followed the pattern it looks like Mary Hayden's mother was Margaret. Without more info on the sequence of sons at both levels, working out Thomas's grandfathers' or Mary's father's possible names isn't achievable. -- Best wishes Ray ********************************************************** >From Ray Hennessy Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net Preferred Email address: ray@whatsinaname.net Hints for Scotland's People at http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP ********************************************************** Check out the Ireland GenWeb County Cork Website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/ It is a good place to find information related to your family research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COUNTYCORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ellen, I do have a second marriage in this family, but as it happened here in Australia, I know the 2nd wife & family (thank goodness) Thanks for your comments. Jane Australia -----Original Message----- From: countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ellen Elliott Sent: Friday, 2 April 2010 11:58 PM To: countycork@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CO CORK] naming patterns for RC Irish families I thought along those lines until I figured there are potential errors in deducting parents using that pattern. For example: If there were children born to that family you didn't know about - perhaps died before they were ever recorded. The lack of knowledge of their names could throw off your search. If the was a second wife and you didn't know she was a second wife - how could you match up a family with any certainty. -----Original Message----- From: countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:countycork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Sullivan Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:49 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com; irl-co-kildare@rootsweb.com; countycork@rootsweb.com Subject: [CO CORK] naming patterns for RC Irish families I remember seeing a posting a while ago about the naming patterns use by Irish families. I do not know for certain the names of parents & grandparents of my ancestor, but am trying to use a process of elimination using the names of the children. Could someone remind me of the naming pattern? I have a Thomas McEvoy who was the son of a David McEvoy & Mary Hayden. Thomas had a son called David and daughters called Mary, Julia, Ellen, Alice, Beatrice, Charlotte & Edith. A first child a girl, named Margaret Rose died soon after arrival in Australia. In Thomas's will, he leaves money to his brother David, and sisters Mary, Ellen & Julia. Is it possible to try to work out what David McEvoy & Mary Hayden's parents' names may have been. Thanks. Jane australia Check out the Ireland GenWeb County Cork Website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/ It is a good place to find information related to your family research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COUNTYCORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out the Ireland GenWeb County Cork Website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/ It is a good place to find information related to your family research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COUNTYCORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought I would add two exceptions to the naming pattern that was given. In the West Cork area it was common to name the oldest female after the father's mother. There was also some type of superstition among the Irish, but I cannot recall all of the details. It had to do with three males of the same name living at the same time: grandfather, father, and son. I am not sure if it was not good luck to have three with the same name who were also grandfather, father, and son all living in the same house or simply all living at the same time. So there would have been some families who would not have named the oldest son after the son's paternal grandfather.

I remember seeing a posting a while ago about the naming patterns use by Irish families. I do not know for certain the names of parents & grandparents of my ancestor, but am trying to use a process of elimination using the names of the children. Could someone remind me of the naming pattern? I have a Thomas McEvoy who was the son of a David McEvoy & Mary Hayden. Thomas had a son called David and daughters called Mary, Julia, Ellen, Alice, Beatrice, Charlotte & Edith. A first child a girl, named Margaret Rose died soon after arrival in Australia. In Thomas's will, he leaves money to his brother David, and sisters Mary, Ellen & Julia. Is it possible to try to work out what David McEvoy & Mary Hayden's parents' names may have been. Thanks. Jane australia

Here's a fairly common naming pattern for Co Cork: The 1st son was usually named after the father's father The 2nd son was usually named after the mother's father The 3rd son was usually named after the father The 4th son was usually named after the father's eldest brother The 5th son was usually named after the mother's eldest brother The 1st daughter was usually named after the mother's mother The 2nd daughter was usually named after the father's mother The 3rd daughter was usually named after the mother The 4th daughter was usually named after the mother's eldest sister The 5th daughter was usually named after the father's eldest sister Barbara in St. Louis, Missouri USA

On 2 April 2010 13:48, Jane Sullivan <janeoz123@bigpond.com> wrote: I remember seeing a posting a while ago about the naming patterns use by > Irish families. I do not know for certain the names of parents & > grandparents of my ancestor, but am trying to use a process of elimination > using the names of the children. Could someone remind me of the naming > pattern? > Hi Jane I don't know how close Scottish and Irish naming patters are but for much of Scotland and quite a lot of England the pattern - not rigorously followed!! - is: 1st son - father's father 2nd son - mother's father 3rd son - father Other sons: grandparents' and parents' siblings, best friends, local worthies 1st dtr - mother's mother 2nd dtr - father's mother 3rd dtr - mother Other dtrs: as for other sons Do remember that this is only a general guide and many families didn't use it or some generations decided to ignore it. While your ancestors look as though they may have used it to some extent, it may not have been rigorous. [and note Ellen's comments which are very relevant.] If [big IF] they followed the pattern it looks like Mary Hayden's mother was Margaret. Without more info on the sequence of sons at both levels, working out Thomas's grandfathers' or Mary's father's possible names isn't achievable. -- Best wishes Ray ********************************************************** >From Ray Hennessy Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net Preferred Email address: ray@whatsinaname.net Hints for Scotland's People at http://bit.ly/WIAN-SCP **********************************************************