Ed There are lots of vital records for you to get in New York: marriage certificate and death certificate. He arrived in time for the 1920 census, which you can look at too. Then there are city directories for the early 20th century. I assume you know where he is buried and have that data. And aren't you lucky you have a place of origin in Cork, unlike most people just beginning. He will have a birth record in Ireland (they began in 1864) and a baptismal record. I assume you know his religion. And you can probably get the same data for his parents. You can never bring back the past and a childhood with your father, but you sure can re-create the past through doing family history. Best of luck. Elizabeth Knowlton not the author of the query--see below Message text written by INTERNET:CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > I have recently begun to research my family history. It has been frustating and more difficult than I imagined it would be. The Ellis Island Passenger Record lists a Daniel Barry arriving in New York City on Nov. 23, 1919. It indicates that he was 21 years of age and sailed on the Adriatic out of Southampton, Southamptonshire, England. Since I figure that my father was born in County Cork circa 1898, the age and dates listed for Daniel Barry fit. My father was one of 13 children. The record also indicates that Daniel's destination was 132 E. 24th St, NYC, NY, the residence of a Mr. H. Barry. Daniel Barry lists his mother as Mrs. E. Barry of Ballymoney (This is the spelling in the ship's manifest.), Rostrevor, Ireland. My father met and married Beatrice McGrevey in New York City. They resided in Manhattan and produced eight children. He passed away in 1947 when I was 7 years of age so I have fleeting memories of him and no vital records. If the Daniel Barry listed in the ship! 's manifest is indeed my father, it fills me with feelings of joy and sadness. If someone can provide me with any additional facts re; the above Passenger Record information it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Barry edbarry@optonline.net<

Bev at rayclarke1@bigpond.com writes: << would like to know if anyone tell me if there is a place in county cork called Ballyonane? <snip> The info I have is: Parish of Aghada >> Ballyonane townland may be in Aghada RC parish - it's close to the border between it and Cloyne RC parish. In any case, it is located in Cloyne civil parish, and is located about a mile SSE of Cloyne town. A current map (1995) shows all of two houses in the entire townland. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Carroll, If you join the The Irish Genealogical Society, Int'l (IGSI) their staff will be able to perform a lookup for you in the following publications by Hickey, N.M. and Connolly, D. (dierctors) Genealogical Survey of Bandon, 1985-1986, Droichead na Banndan Community Co-Operative Society Ltd., Church Square, Kinsale, Co Cork Reilig, Baile, Muadan, call #Frgn.IR.C048 Ballymodan & Bandon, call #Frgn.IR.C049 Kilbrogan, Roman Catholic, Bandon, call #Frgn.IR.C050 Kilbrogan Church of Ireland, Bandon, call #Frgn.IR.C051 I know of no other library holding these publications. The IGSI website is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/index.html Cheers, Colin Ferguson

Hi listers I am new to the list and would like to know if anyone tell me if there is a place in county cork called Ballyonane? Couldn't find it on the web site. The info I have is: Parish of Aghada,Diocese CY?? District of Midleton Hope you can help Bev Clarke

I have been told there's a gravestone for Elizabeth SALTER "... all covered with yellow lichen and scarcely legible..." at Kilbrogan (Christchurch?) in Bandon, Cork, Ireland. Who might I prevail upon to look for that stone and try to read more of its inscription for me? A photograph would also be appreciated, because it might be manipulated by computer to further reveal some of the engraving. Carroll B. Knox Caribou, Maine

I have recently begun to research my family history. It has been frustating and more difficult than I imagined it would be. The Ellis Island Passenger Record lists a Daniel Barry arriving in New York City on Nov. 23, 1919. It indicates that he was 21 years of age and sailed on the Adriatic out of Southampton, Southamptonshire, England. Since I figure that my father was born in County Cork circa 1898, the age and dates listed for Daniel Barry fit. My father was one of 13 children. The record also indicates that Daniel's destination was 132 E. 24th St, NYC, NY, the residence of a Mr. H. Barry. Daniel Barry lists his mother as Mrs. E. Barry of Ballymoney (This is the spelling in the ship's manifest.), Rostrevor, Ireland. My father met and married Beatrice McGrevey in New York City. They resided in Manhattan and produced eight children. He passed away in 1947 when I was 7 years of age so I have fleeting memories of him and no vital records. If the Daniel Barry listed in the ship! 's manifest is indeed my father, it fills me with feelings of joy and sadness. If someone can provide me with any additional facts re; the above Passenger Record information it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Barry

Bev, From www.seanruad.com Ballyonane, 111acres, Cloyne Civil Parish, Middleton Poor Law Union Bill Fahy

I am searching for information on Patrick Delaney Family from Ballincollig. Patrick Delaney and wife Bessie Ryan or Regan Children Cornelius J. Delaney born about 3-10-1870 came to the US 1889 married in Woburn MA to Emeline Brennan (blacksmith by trade) Dennis Delaney Born abt 1885 came to US abt 1913 settled in Boston. Helen (Nettie) Delaney abt 1871 came to US 1892, married Thomas Ford born in Ireland ,settled in Boston Daniel stayed in Ireland Thomas stayed in Ireland. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheryl _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

I am seeking information regarding a listing of passengers and crew who were lost on board the Cunard Line's RMS Lusitania which was sunk by a German U-Boat off the coast of Ireland on 7 May 1915. I am specifically searching for Con Keeffe of County Cork who may have been a crewmember. Can anyone suggest where I might find that information either on the Internet or an address where I could write? Thanks for any help. Jean C. of Ohio

I am just starting out in my search for my family in County Cork, so I have limited info. so far. I have found that there are very few records to search, but I did find a marriage for Samuel Moore KYLE to Jane COTTER in 1833 in the Diocese of Cork & Ross, County Cork, Ireland. The source is Albert Eugene Casey, Eleanor L. Downey - Prince and Ursula Dietrich, Index of O'Kief, Coshe Mange, Slieve Lougher and Upper Blackwater in Ireland. I know there were many with the surname KYLE in Ireland, but very few in County Cork. I need to find the father and mother of my GG-Grandfather James KYLE born in Ireland abt. 1837. He had a brother, Robert William KYLE, both of who are listed born in Ireland. I have most of their info after they came to America, but not much before. Now, I do not know that Samuel & Jane COTTER KYLE were the parents, but they are the only couple I could find that might be a possibility. Any one with information or maybe an idea on what I should do next, would be greatly appreciated. Happy St. Patrick's Day to ALL.

Dear Listers; In February 1881, two elderly members of our family died within a week of each other. When word reached John B. Murray in New Albin, Iowa on St. Patrick's Day, 1881, John sat down and wept. He was reading of the death of his mother Mary (O'Brien) Murray and his uncle James Murray, both of Clondulane, near Fermoy, Co. Cork. Four days later, John sat down and penned a letter to his father Michael Murray, who was a steward at the Carey estate known as Careysville, along the Blackwater River in Clondulane. The Careys owned the "big house" and most of the land in the area. The Murrays were resident caretakers on this estate from the early 1800s until the 1920s. The text of John's letter is transcribed below, with bracketed comments . John erected two beautiful 6 foot marble headstones in Clondulane that are still standing. I hope you enjoy our letter. The letter is a genealogist's dream - one that has led to the connection of hundreds (perhaps in the thousand range) of descendants. The misspellings have been retained to maintain accuracy. Happy St. Patrick's Day. David Murray ============== New Albin March 21st /81 Dear Father Your sorrowfull letter of this month relateing the death of my poor mother and Uncle James has been received on St. Patricks' Day March 17th/". You may imagine what a lonesome Patrick's Day I spent as its' many a handkerchief I wet with my tears on that day and sien'ce When I think of my fond mother and of her infinite goodness and kindness in the days of the past. hoping now that all her goodness is recorded with an indellable mark and receive her reward beyond the grave as also that of my dear Uncle James. I am entirely dissatisfied at myself on account of not sending those pictures at an earlier day but I had not the least idea of her dying So Soon and besides knowing that there were some of them at home before There is Nothing that I would or could deny of her that she wanted and will always feell ungreatfull at myself for not seeing her before her death, with strong hopes that I may see their graves before I die and plant an ornimental tree on My Mothers grave. I am so glad that you have buried them in Clondulane as I always considered Coole Abbey so dreary and lonesome looking besides so inconvenient-in many instances. I am greatly astonished at Uncle Tom [O'Brien] wanting to have my mother buried in Kilworth [Macroney Upper] and don't or cannot understand his reasons for it. I consider it the Most Profound ignorance. Or a strong feeling of insanity, to even attempt to separate the wife from husband dead or alive And if it happened that his inclinations had been fulfilled and mother buried in Kilworth I do be strongly tempted to go right over to ireland and have her taken up and put where she is now and where she naturally belongs Its bad enough to have her die and not to be taking her all around the world for sport to bury her May she rest in Peace Dear Father I am so thankfull to you for paying and showing So Much respect to mother at the time of her death and [I am] extremely obliged to Aunt Kate [O'Brien] for her kind attentance during her long Sickness as I Know it must put my aunt to a great deal of inconvenience being away and Neglecting her own family So long, If my intellectual ability could only enable me to express in plain words the sentiments and expressions and feelings of my mind towards your dear Master [George Montgomery of Careysville] and his loveing wife [name unknown] for their kind generocity and benevolance to the poor. I would feel so happy. Consequently in order to correspond with my simple ability [I] shall only say that every success may attend both themselves and their family both in this world and in the next one. I send your letter to Uncle John in Milwaukee [son of Patrick] the next day after I red it. I wrote to Cousin Pat in Virginia [son of James] and send h im your feelings and my own for his Kindness to you. When next you write - let me know what was the cause of my uncles death the day of month he died his age and [2 words untelligible due to a paper fold] mothers as near as possible about what the experiences were Connected with mothers funeral. Send me the name of the Priest who attended mother in her last moment her last words and [unintelligible] Send me the name of the firm or man who keep the marble shop in Fermoy=or in City Corke. Thankfull to one and all whose sympathy was extended in the hours of affliction I remain her devoted son and yours also. J B Murray =================

Hello,      If you would be so kind to just check out the names listed below along with the dates and locations and contact me if you recognise or can get me in touch with someone who can connect me with my family members. It would be greatly appreciated... My Morgan Genealogy Research: 1901 Census of Ireland West Cork, PLU Skibbereen, Aghadown South, Townland of Fasagh Neighbors in the area on the Census: John Daly , Patrick Cotter , Timothy Cadogan , Elizabeth Tinder , Corneluis McCarthy My Family: William Morgan (head of household) Occupation Farmer  Age 55  (approx birth 1946) Eliza (French:maiden name) Morgan wife of William   Age 45  (approx birth 1956) Their children living with them at this time:                          Birth year Approx. Annie                      1882 Eliza Jane               1884 William & James   1887 Emily                      1886 Samuel                   1890 Mary                      1892 Thomas                  1897 Richard                  1900 In the 1911 Census Eliza ( wife and mother ) had had a total of 12 children.  I understand, per Kate McCarthy from Turkhead, the household was sold in 1918 to Con Cadogan and William (the father) moved with his daughter Eliza Jane an her husband Johnny Bevan to Bandon with their children Betty, Fan and son Jack.  Samuel (My Grandfather) and Richard were the only two to come to the United States at the time. PLEASE,  If you know any information on any of the individuals mentioned above or know how I can connect with my Irish cousins please let me know.   Thank You...Cathy Morgan Galloway  (Las Vegas, Nevada) Morganzher@aol.com   

Hi, I wonder if anyone can tell me the name of a R C church that would have existed in the area of Mallow that would encompass the townland (parish) of Ballynamona during the early to mid 1800's. Take care, Ed

John: Noticed in your post a mention of Creeden? As I descend from a Creedon/Cogan line, was wondering if you could tell me more about your Creedens? My great grandmother, Anna Cecilia Creedon, married John Sarsfield KIRWAN/KERWIN in 1896 in Colorado. Not sure of a connection with either of the townlands you mentioned. Here is what I have: John REARDON/RIORDAN b ca 1806 Co Tipperary IRE d 1846 Co Tipperary IRE (residence Bourney (Bournea) Parish in north Tipperary Co, south of Roscrea.) married Margaret GILMARTIN, unknown date/place b ca 1806 Bourney Parish, Roscrea, Co Tipperary? d 1897 Bourney Parish, Roscrea, Co Tipperary? Margaret's second husband was Unknown GLEASON children: 1) Judith Johanna REARDON/RIORDAN b 1834 Mallow, Co Cork IRE d 1902 O'Neill (Holt Co) Nebraska married John Cornelius KIRWAN (1829-1883) Oct 9 1856 Bourney, Co Tipperary IRE (Arrived on the ship, the John Bright. After coming to the US in 1861, the family lived in Ohio - possibly Clinton County, then Missouri and Nebraska.) 2) John REARDON/RIORDAN no further information 3) Edward REARDON/RIORDAN no further information Hope this helps you some? Jeanette > Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:21:04 -0800 (PST) > From: john wiehn <ctaoh@yahoo.com> > To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Cork] New Member... > > Hello... > > Just subscribed to the list last week and wanted > to say hello... > > My great Grandmother, Bridget Riordan, was from > Meelin, Co. Cork and her husband, my Great > Grandfather, > Patrick Collins was from Garralacka which is just > outside of Clonakilty. > > They came to Connecticut in the 1890's and married > in 1904. > > Do we have any list members with ancestors from these > 2 townlands?? > > Bridget Riordan's mother was Mary Herlihy and her > father was Benjamin Riordan. Benjamin's mother was > a lehey/leahey. Benjamin was born in Meelin back in > the 1840's. Other names mentioned with the family > are shine, and creeden(kanturk. > > Patrick Collin's mother was Mary Hickey who married > John Collins. Mary hickey's parents were Thomas > Hickey and Joan Barry. John Collin's parents were > Cornelius Collins and Mary Hayes. > > Before coming to the U.S., in the early 1900's > Patrick Collins worked At the hungerford estate > in Ballyvackey which adjacent to Garralacka. The > big house was called Sumount by Lord Hungerford's > family. > > Do we have anyone on the list with any ties to these > families or townlands?? > > Would love to hear from you.... > > John Wiehn > Connecticut ===== "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." Mahatma Gandhi My Creedon family genealogy page http://www.homestead.com/creedon1/ Ford & Nagle, Historians & Genealogists, Collectors of Antique Family Photos, Bibles, and Documents http://my.erinet.com/~fordnag/FordNagle.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

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John, You have figured out that the list is most useful for us pointing you to sources rather than knowing your surname. 1) Do you have point of origin in Cork? Without it, you are unlikely to know what parishes to search. At the very least, have Griffiths Morgans and Greens checked and see if there are parishes where both lived ca 1850 even if after your group left Ireland. 2) Have you checked every record available in NZ? Nine times out of ten, more info is available in the country to which the people immigrated. Tombstones and obituaries are the most fruitful for place of origin, but don't leave anything unchecked. 3) Take a look at Cyndislist.com under Ireland and Cork for an exhaustive list of what is available on the web and, better, how to do Irish genealogy in libraries, archives, family history centers, and by mail. 4) I highly recommend you invest in a book on how to do Irish genealogy. You will see several mentioned on the web sites. For Roman Catholic parish record descriptions (dates), John Grenham's TRACING YOUR IRISH ANCESTORS, 2nd ed., is very useful. Paperback. Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com Message text written by INTERNET:CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com >Since it appears that noone on the current list has any knowledge of my Morgans (below) I wonder if someone could assist with the more general enquiry re early Cork records. Have some parish records survived? Are they available on film at LDS libraries? Thanks in anticipation > I am a new member to this list and this is my first message. > > I am looking for any help with the following MORGAN family. > > A widow, Ann Morgan, and her children Charles (21), Mary Ann (17), Margaret (16), Fanny (14), and James (11), all residents of County Cork, sailed to New Zealand in 1842. Mary Ann is my Gt Gt Grandmother, and from her marriage we learn that her parents names were Jacob Morgan and Ann (nee Green) > > >From the above ages we can conclude Jacob/Ann's marriage was probably around 1820, the children were born between 1821 and 1831 and Jacob died between 1831 and 1842. The family were Catholic. > > Firstly, does anyone have a connection to, or knowledge of this family. Failing that, can someone with knowledge of Cork parish records advise whether I am likely to find any details of the marriage, births and death, and, if so, how best to go about it. >< John Beaton Brisbane, Australia jcbeaton@bigpond.com

Since it appears that noone on the current list has any knowledge of my Morgans (below) I wonder if someone could assist with the more general enquiry re early Cork records. Have some parish records survived? Are they available on film at LDS libraries? Thanks in anticipation John Beaton Brisbane, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Beaton" <jcbeaton@bigpond.com> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 11:03 AM Subject: [Cork] Morgan > Hi all, > > I am a new member to this list and this is my first message. > > I am looking for any help with the following MORGAN family. > > A widow, Ann Morgan, and her children Charles (21), Mary Ann (17), Margaret (16), Fanny (14), and James (11), all residents of County Cork, sailed to New Zealand in 1842. Mary Ann is my Gt Gt Grandmother, and from her marriage we learn that her parents names were Jacob Morgan and Ann (nee Green) > > >From the above ages we can conclude Jacob/Ann's marriage was probably around 1820, the children were born between 1821 and 1831 and Jacob died between 1831 and 1842. The family were Catholic. > > Firstly, does anyone have a connection to, or knowledge of this family. Failing that, can someone with knowledge of Cork parish records advise whether I am likely to find any details of the marriage, births and death, and, if so, how best to go about it. > > Regards > John Beaton > Brisbane, Australia > > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > ** CountyCork Mailing List homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/countycork >

Old photo albums "found" on Ford & Nagle site: DAILEY, Melvina Bullock; taken by Anderson and Kepler, Schoolcraft, Mi.; found Schoolcraft, Mi. 08 Feb 1998 DAILEY, Rose; taken by Leas Photographer, Peru, Ind.; found 28 Nov 1998 Peru, Ind. DALLY, Lane, taken by N.W. Wineland, Centerburg, Ohio; he was b. Feb 1842; found Lawrenceburg, Ind. 08 Dec 1996 http://my.erinet.com/~fordnag/PhotosDG.htm

Hello; If your MURRAY family is from County Cork and the series of children's first names in your MURRAY family in the 1800s (and 1900s) were consistently: John James Patrick Michael Johanna Mary Please contact me off-list at dmurray@totalnetnh.net If your first names were: Cornelius Laurence Jeremiah Bridget Catherine that would be a different branch of Murrays - but Happy St. Patrick's Day to your family from the MURRAYs of Clondulane. Thanks, Dave Murray