Vita; ============== Index to Prerogative Wills of Ireland Page 471 1754 Walker, John, Castlelyons, clothier. ================== 1766 Religious Census of Ireland. No Walkers listed in Castlelyons under Protestant or Catholic entries. ================== You would still need to check: Kill-Saint-Anne Graveyard, Castlelyons for headstones. 1827 Tithes for Fermoy. 1852 Griffith's Valuation for Fermoy. You can write to the Cork County library for the above. Good luck, Dave Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vita v. Wedel" <VitavonWedel@t-online.de> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: [Cork] Walker Brewery in FERMOY > Hello - > > have been trying for ages to find ANY information on the brewery of my WALKER > ancestors in FERMOY. > The brewery was probably founded by my gggg-grandfather THOMAS WALKER, perhaps > shortly before 1800. Thomas Walker is mentioned in town papers occasionally, in > connection with the town´s founder and developer, JOHN ANDERSON. > Other than that I found no details on the brewery. > It seems the brewery did not survive long after Thomas Walker´s death. His son > George didn´t seem to be involved with it. > > Don´t even know when Thomas Walker died - where could I find the CoI-registers > of the early 19th century? > > Can anyone give clues where to look next? I´ve only been to the Fermoy City > Library, where everyone was extremely helpful and nice, but couldn´t help. > > Thanks! > Vita > > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > ** CountyCork Mailing List homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/countycork >

Vita; I have found some references to your family as listed below. =============== I. Slater's National Commercial Directory of Ireland, Published by I. Slater, (late Pigot & Co.), Fleet St., London. 1846. Page 237 Nobility, Gentry and Clergy Walker, Mrs. Ellen, Walker's Row Walker, Thomas, Esq., Walker's Row =============== 1847 Fermoy Rate Book This is a ledger book still in the possession of a descendant of the man who collected the rate. Entry on line 250 in the book reads: Walker's Row, Mrs. H. Walker, House and Garden =============== The Early Years of Harmony Masonic Lodge No. 555 Fermoy, Co. Cork 1806-1858. Compiled from the original Minute Books by Heron Lepper. No entry for Walker in the section that lists the names of men who joined the lodge. There are three entries of men who visited the lodge. Page 64 Walker, G. 4 Jun 1821 Lodge 233 Note: "Probably E.C. 79 Reg 1808-28" Page 65 Walker, 6 Aug 1821 [a member of] Lodge 333 Caledon 1759-1845 I noted that another man of a different surname was visiting the Fermoy Masonic Lodge, presumably a friend or family member, with Mr. Walker on 6 Aug 1821. His name was Mr. Wilson - also from Lodge 333 Caledon 1759-1845. ============= Henry & Coughlan's General Directory of Cork for 1867. Business Directory - Fermoy. There are no entries for the name Walker. ============= Hope this helps. I can refer you to a man who can check the Fermoy C of I records for you, however, I am certain he will want to charge you as they are challenging to read (old spider writing in some instances) and although he lives in Dublin and is very familiar with Fermoy records, he does not work for free. Thanks, David Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vita v. Wedel" <VitavonWedel@t-online.de> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: [Cork] Walker Brewery in FERMOY > Hello - > > have been trying for ages to find ANY information on the brewery of my WALKER > ancestors in FERMOY. > The brewery was probably founded by my gggg-grandfather THOMAS WALKER, perhaps > shortly before 1800. Thomas Walker is mentioned in town papers occasionally, in > connection with the town´s founder and developer, JOHN ANDERSON. > Other than that I found no details on the brewery. > It seems the brewery did not survive long after Thomas Walker´s death. His son > George didn´t seem to be involved with it. > > Don´t even know when Thomas Walker died - where could I find the CoI-registers > of the early 19th century? > > Can anyone give clues where to look next? I´ve only been to the Fermoy City > Library, where everyone was extremely helpful and nice, but couldn´t help. > > Thanks! > Vita > > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > ** CountyCork Mailing List homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/countycork >

Hello - have been trying for ages to find ANY information on the brewery of my WALKER ancestors in FERMOY. The brewery was probably founded by my gggg-grandfather THOMAS WALKER, perhaps shortly before 1800. Thomas Walker is mentioned in town papers occasionally, in connection with the town´s founder and developer, JOHN ANDERSON. Other than that I found no details on the brewery. It seems the brewery did not survive long after Thomas Walker´s death. His son George didn´t seem to be involved with it. Don´t even know when Thomas Walker died - where could I find the CoI-registers of the early 19th century? Can anyone give clues where to look next? I´ve only been to the Fermoy City Library, where everyone was extremely helpful and nice, but couldn´t help. Thanks! Vita

Is there a place called Millbank near Fermoy ? Regards, Catherine Vanneau, France

In a message dated 4/13/2002 4:27:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kiltonya@eircom.net writes: > like Phthisis > Hi Tracy, this is Tuberculosis.............Paula

> Does anyone know what name the nickname "Norry" was used for? This name > shows up in the baptismal records for Ballyvourney, County Cork. Could > it have been used for Johanna? > Thanks for any input!! > Kay > > Hi Kay, My Aunt Honoria was born in Ballyvourney and she was known as NONIE, NORA OR NORRY. Honora is a strong family name in our family and they have always been called by one of the above. My GtGMother was Honora but on the birth certificates of nearly all her children she is shown as NORRY. Peggy Townsville Australia

Hello this is Robert Williams I am hoping you can help me with my friends brickwall. The name is Walter J. McMahon born in county Cork in early 1900's no parents listed I have searched on the 1880 census and think I found someone but it was too early and the L D S church online catalogue gave me some but not really promising I know I am asking alot but could SKS please help me in any way possible Thanks shortpop@mindspring.com

>died of something that looks like Phthisis I have this on a death certificate too, although the deceased was elderly, if I recall correctly. If any of you out there are medically minded I would be very interested in knowing what it is. TIA, Tracey.

Another name for tuberculosis also known as consumption, and of course a very common cause of death in bygone periods. Regards, Donnacha ----- Original Message ----- From: "tracey f manning" <kiltonya@eircom.net> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 3:49 PM Subject: [Cork] Re: CountyCork-D Digest V02 #97 > >died of something that looks like Phthisis > > I have this on a death certificate too, although the deceased was elderly, > if I > recall correctly. > If any of you out there are medically minded I would be very interested in > knowing what it is. > TIA, > Tracey.

In a message dated 4/13/02 2:27:07 PM Mountain Daylight Time, kiltonya@eircom.net writes: > >died of something that looks like Phthisis > > I have this on a death certificate too, although the deceased was elderly, > if I recall correctly. If any of you out there are medically minded I would > be very interested in knowing what it is. > TIA, > Tracey. From Webster's Dictionany - 1913 Phthi"sis (?), n. [L., fr. Gr. , fr. to pass or waste away: cf. F. phthisie.] (Med.) A wasting or consumption of the tissues. The term was formerly applied to many wasting diseases, but is now usually restricted to pulmonary phthisis, or consumption. Consumption (Page: <A HREF="http://machaut.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/WEBSTER.page.sh?PAGE=311">311</A>)Con*sump"tion (?; 215), n.. [L. consumptio: cf. F. consomption.] 1. The act or process of consuming by use, waste, etc.; decay; destruction. > Every new advance of the price to the consumer is a new incentive to him to > retrench the quality of his consumption. Burke. 2. The state or process of being consumed, wasted, or diminished; waste; diminution; loss; decay. 3. (Med.) A progressive wasting away of the body; esp., that form of wasting, attendant upon pulmonary phthisis and associated with cough, spitting of blood, hectic fever, etc.; pulmonary phthisis; -- called also pulmonary consumption.<-- tuberculosis --> Consumption of the bowels (Med.), inflammation and ulceration of the intestines from tubercular disease. Syn. -- Decline; waste; decay.

Hello I am a new subscriber from Canada and thought I would post my interest. I am researching Catherine HART, b. c. 1817 Cork. She married Samuel ARNOLD in London, England in 1841. Her father was listed as William Hart, Labourer. The witnesses were William Hart and Ellen Hart. In 1871, she is listed on the Shoreditch, Middlesex, England census as follows: 9 Wenlock Terrace Shoreditch Samuel Arnold, head. 56. b. Hertfordshire Shinley [sic]. Kate Arnold, wife. 54. B. Ireland, Cork Lissie Arnold, dau, 21. Laundress. b. Shoreditch Joseph Arnold, son. 14. Machine Boy. b. Islington. I know there was also another daughter, Sarah, who would have been about 27 at the time. Do you think that the census means she was born in Co. Cork, or the city of Cork? On the same page is a lady who lists her birthplace as Ireland - Dublin. Best Wishes! Taryn Jones BC Canada

A simple search for the word using Google produces the following: NOUN: An infectious disease producing lesions especially of the lungs. No longer in scientific use: consumption (no longer in scientific use), phthisic (no longer in scientific use), tuberculosis, white plague. See HEALTH. Roget's II: The New Thesaurus, Third Edition. Copyright © 1995 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by the Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. ----- Original Message ----- From: tracey f manning <kiltonya@eircom.net> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 3:49 PM Subject: [Cork] Re: CountyCork-D Digest V02 #97 > >died of something that looks like Phthisis > > I have this on a death certificate too, although the deceased was elderly, > if I > recall correctly. > If any of you out there are medically minded I would be very interested in > knowing what it is. > TIA, > Tracey. > > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > ** CountyCork Mailing List homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/countycork ** > >

Is it correct that the Mallow Heritage Centre only covers certain parts of the Cork area? Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Egan Flynn" <leflynn@pacbell.net> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [Cork] Visit to Mallow Heritage Center > I've had wonderful results from the Mallow Hertiage Centre by mail. I sent them my husbands > grandmothers name and d.o.b. (1868) and her parents names along with $50 US. > > They sent the parents marriage date and place, ALL their children (I only knew of two) along > with the christening dates and sponsors names. That's not all....they also sent the marriage > of one of the boys and the christening dates and sponsors of his children who are probably > still in C. Cork. They asked for another $25 for all that information and I sent it gladly. > > So if they cannot help you 'while you wait' I'd leave them some money and all the information > you have. > > Linda Egan Flynn > **************************************************************** > > Reisenmaui1@aol.com wrote: > > > We are going to Ireland in August and I plan to visit the Mallow Heritage > > Center. I was just wondering if anyone else has had any experience with what > > can be done there. I understand they do any lookups for you but wondering > > what the cost is for having them do it. > > Thanks for any input. > > Kay > > > > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > ** CountyCork Mailing List homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/countycork ** >

Please do not reply to my message if you want to help those below; this is a response to the messages below. Look under Cyndislist.com Ireland, to find a list of the Heritage Centers with addresses and information on areas covered. Lots of information on the web about what they can do for you. It costs about $50 (or did) for a general search. If your ancestors were Roman Catholic and appear in church records, then you may find out lots of things--I have heard glowing reports from people. If you have done quite a bit of searching yourself and your ancestors did not appear in Roman Catholic church records, then the Heritage Centers are less helpful. I have not learned anything for my $50. I went to Mallow, which covers North Cork, but was unable to find an office open to visit. Many of the centers are places where the computer work is done, not a place for us to visit. Communication is by mail whether from US, Australia, or Ireland itself. The centers vary greatly. I could not talk with anyone at Mallow or in north Mayo, for instance (although they had a wonderful famine exhibit). On the other hand, in 1996 the East Galway center was fantastic and friendly and interested in getting information from its researchers. The Offaly center in Tullamore was also very good and had people to confer with and publications for sale. I suggest you begin by mail. Also, visit all the web sites available through Cyndislist.com and buy yourself a good manual (about US$20) like Grenham's TRACING YOUR IRISH ANCESTORS. I refer to these things over and over to get new ideas of what to do next. Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com Message text written by INTERNET:CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Cork] Visit to Mallow Heritage Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it correct that the Mallow Heritage Centre only covers certain parts of the Cork area? Terry From: "Terry & Eileen" <tjk2001@optushome.com.au> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Egan Flynn" <leflynn@pacbell.net> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [Cork] Visit to Mallow Heritage Center > I've had wonderful results from the Mallow Hertiage Centre by mail. I sent them my husbands > grandmothers name and d.o.b. (1868) and her parents names along with $50 US. > > They sent the parents marriage date and place, ALL their children (I only knew of two) along > with the christening dates and sponsors names. That's not all....they also sent the marriage > of one of the boys and the christening dates and sponsors of his children who are probably > still in C. Cork. They asked for another $25 for all that information and I sent it gladly. > > So if they cannot help you 'while you wait' I'd leave them some money and all the information > you have. > > Linda Egan Flynn > **************************************************************** > > Reisenmaui1@aol.com wrote: > > > We are going to Ireland in August and I plan to visit the Mallow Heritage > > Center. I was just wondering if anyone else has had any experience with what > > can be done there. I understand they do any lookups for you but wondering > > what the cost is for having them do it. > > Thanks for any input. > > Kay<

Catherine, A birth certificate would not be available prior to 1864. I also assume that Glanmore should be Glanmire because I cannot find Glanmore listed anywhere. If it is Glanmire Roman Catholic christenings only go back to 1817. For Church of Ireland see the following website http://www.cork.anglican.org/Parishes/Cobh&Glanmire.html. Since the church in Glanmire was consecrated in 1786 there might be a chance they have records though they were not required until 1837 or the Cobh Heritage Center may have already transcribed them. Bill Fahy

Terry, Mallow Heritage Center restricts itself to North Cork and Cork City is not included. Bill Fahy

I don't know how I can get a copy of the birth certificate of George REID, born on 25 October 1807, parish of Glanmore, Co. Cork. His father was David REID living in Millbank near Fermoy. Thanking you for your help and advice, Catherine Vanneau, France

I went to school with a girl named NORINE....her family called her Norrie.... dj ----- Original Message ----- From: "PEGGYMILLAR" <pegleg2@bigpond.com> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:22 AM Subject: [Cork] RE:HONORA/NORRY > Does anyone know what name the nickname "Norry" was used for? This name > shows up in the baptismal records for Ballyvourney, County Cork. Could > it have been used for Johanna? > Thanks for any input!! > Kay > > Hi Kay, My Aunt Honoria was born in Ballyvourney and she was known as NONIE, NORA OR NORRY. Honora is a strong family name in our family and they have always been called by one of the above. My GtGMother was Honora but on the birth certificates of nearly all her children she is shown as NORRY. Peggy Townsville Australia ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== ** To contact the listowner, send a message to mpetzolt2@webtv.net **

It is always for Nora --On Wednesday, April 10, 2002, 9:03 PM +0000 Reisenmaui1@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know what name the nickname "Norry" was used for? This name > shows up in the baptismal records for Ballyvourney, County Cork. Could > it have been used for Johanna? > Thanks for any input!! > Kay > > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > ** Posts go to CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com ** > >

The Mallow Heritage Center is the center for the Diocese of Cloyne which has forty six parishes out of the one hundred and twenty parishes within the County of Cork. Kay