Hi listers, I have recently received an e-mail relative to my research for GILLAN ancestors in County Cork. I reads as follows: IGSI - Bere Peninsula Families, County Cork, Husbands, Allihies Parish, Gillan, John (lightkeeper) Bowen, Mary Lighthouse. I have no idea what this means or how to follow up on this information. Would SKS out there point me in the right direction? The only information I have to lead me to County Cork with appears in an obit stating the family came from there. I have no parish and have very little experience researching Irish records. Thank you, Holly in sunny Florida _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

I'm sending this as a reminder to all my lists of a Helpul Hint on my page (url below) and as proof it works! If you are not in the US, it still might help you if you have a US relative you need info on.... Twice now I have sent for records from the Veteran's Administration - once for my grandfather (which provided much information and led me to the McGlynn line in Brooklyn from Ireland which I previously did not know about), and then for my dear Dad (because I needed info on his first marriage and no one was talking about it -- so I had to get the info another way). Figuring this marriage info was in his VA claim (because I remembered a large "discussion" about it one summer), I sent a letter just asking for his VA file, giving only his name, date of birth, date of death, and some info I had that I thought might be helpful (addresses we had lived at, that he fought in the Pacific Theatre etc). Where did I send it? In each case I just sent it to my regional office, which for me was Atlanta since I live in Alabama (even tho they didn't live there, that is what I was told to do). The regional office then sends to whatever office holds the file. (In my grandfathers case it was NY, in my fathers case it indeed was in Atlanta since he died here in Alabama with me, and that is where the last correspondence of his death cert was ). Now in my grandfather's case nearly 3 years ago, I got nearly 300 pages of info on his Spanish American war record, his marriage certificate (bingo!), records of war injuries (very detailed), his death cert, my grandmother's application for pension, ending with her death certificate. Got all this within a month. Now in Daddy's case, the usual "Petzolt curse" was involved, as I sent away and never heard anything for a year. So I picked up the phone and called around in Washington DC til I got the right office, and finally found a very nice gentleman who said the man in charge had died right around that time and much was left at loose ends, so he started the paper trail for me again. It has been almost exactly 2 months since then to yesterday when I received nearly 200 pages of info in my mailbox. In my fathers case, it was very interesting because many of you may know many WW2 records were destroyed in a fire, but since his copies were in his VA file, I have them, including some with burned edges! I did get the info on his first marriage, details of his war injury since he was claiming disability, and other things I had anyway (but might help someone who did not have these things) like his funeral expenses, application for a flag on the casket, death cert, even my own birth certificate as he was claiming me (then) as a minor child. Did I mention all of this is FREE? Yup, free. I do not think you have to be related directly to that person, as technically it goes to the FOIA (freedom of information act) Office of the VA. So if you have someone who may have gotten VA benefits, or even just applied for benefits even if they got turned down (because that's in a file somewhere too).... this could be a goldmine of information. And in my case, my Dad would never talk about his war injury, and now I finally know the details. So take a peek at the Helpful Hints page (as I often remind people ) there are sections there on what military records are available, and how to get those great VA files (a well kept secret, and one I expect eventually will be something we have to pay for.... due to the boom in genealogy... so take advantage of it). And by the way.... another "hint"..... when you write for anything to any office or library, use the term "family history" not "genealogy". For some reason, "family history" gets better results. Hope this helps someone..... I know it's certainly helped me, and made me feel closer to my Dad. Maura <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints

Kate Like Joan, I could not open the web-site. it came up 'The page could not be found'. Thinking that this was an error, I have tried twice more, received the same answer. Phyllis Steel Qld. Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Press" <kpress@melbpc.org.au> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 7:11 PM Subject: [Cork] Co Cork, Co Limerick and Co Clare families. > Information on these names on my site at: > <http://www.alphalink.com/cu/~datatree/index.htm>www.alphalink.com.au/~data > tree/index.htm > > > This site includes many names with links to Co Cork, Co Limerick and Co Clare > families. > > BARRETT; BRENNAN; BURKE; BUTLER; CALLAGHAN; CARMODY; CARNEY; CARROL; CASEY; > COFFEY; CONNORS; CONSIDINE; COSTELLO; CRONIN; CROWE; CULHANE; CUMMANE ; > CUNEEN; > CUNNINGHAM; CURREN; CUSHEN; DAVIS; DINAN; DONOVAN; DOOLAN; DOWD; DOWLING; > DOWNEY; DURACK; EGAN; FITZGERALD; FITZGIBBON; FITZPATRICK; FLAGG; FLANNIGAN; > FLOOD; FLYNN; FRAWLEY; FREYNE; FRYNE; GAYNOR; GILLIGAN; GILTINANE; GLEESON; > HANAHRAN; HANNAN; HANNON; HAYES; HICKE; HONAN; HOUGH; KANE; KEANE; KEATING; > KELLY; KENEALY; KENNY; KIELY; KILDERRY LALLY LARKIN; LOWRIE; LYNCH; MACNAMARA; > MADIGAN; MAGNER; MALONE; MALONEY; MCCARTHY; MCCAUSELAND; MCCORMACK; MCDERMOTT; > MCDONNELL; MCGOVERN; MCGRATH; MCGUIGAN; MCINERNEY; MCINTOSH; MCINTYRE; > MCMAHON; > MCMANNUS; MCMENAMAN; MCNAMARA; MCSWEENEY; MILLAR; MINAHAN; MOLONEY; MOODIE; > MORAN; MULCAHY; MULLANE; MURPHY; MURRAY; NEALON; NEARY; NESTOR; NEVILLE; > NOLAN; > O'BRIEN; O'CONNELL; O'CONNOR; O'DWYER; O'GRADY; O'KEEFFE; O'LEARY; O'MALLEY; > O'NEILL; O'REILLY; O'SHEA; O'SULLIVAN; PIERCE; PURCELL; RAFFERTY; RALEIGH; > REGAN; ROCHE; RYAN; SCALE; SHANNESSY; SHAUGHNESSY; SHEAHAN; SHEEDY; SHEEHAN; > SHEEHY; SHINE; SLATTERY; STACK; STRITCH SWEENEY; TOBIN; TOOHEY; TORMEY; > TRAYNOR; VAUGHAN; WALSH; WELSH; > > > Kate Press, > Melbourne, Australia > <http://www.alphalink.com.au/~datatree/index.htm>www.alphalink.com.au/~data > tree/index.htm > Researching Limerick families: Shine, Neylon, Sheehy, Connors, Neville > > > > > > > > > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > ** Please use subject line appopriately! Put surnames in all CAPS ** > >

I would like to say thank you to all that offered help in answering my request of below, I have thanked individually Jan Kenney FORTADO,Loretta EVERINGHAM, and Cait NIIAGHAIN. Jan has also helped with other questions, thank you all. Phyllis Steel Qld Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis Steel" <steep@ozconnect.net> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: [Cork] bmd Websites > Does any Lister know if there is a web-site in Ireland the same as the U.K > httm://freebmd.rootsweb.com > > Phyllis Steel from Australia. > > > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > ** CountyCork Mailing List homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/countycork ** > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Maura" <mpetzolt2@webtv.net> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 10:07 AM Subject: [Cork] US Vet's Admin Records > I'm sending this as a reminder to all my lists of a Helpul Hint on my > page (url below) and as proof it works! If you are not in the US, it > still might help you if you have a US relative you need info on.... > > Twice now I have sent for records from the Veteran's Administration - > once for my grandfather (which provided much information and led me to > the McGlynn line in Brooklyn from Ireland which I previously did not > know about), and then for my dear Dad (because I needed info on his > first marriage and no one was talking about it -- so I had to get the > info another way). > > Figuring this marriage info was in his VA claim (because I remembered a > large "discussion" about it one summer), I sent a letter just asking for > his VA file, giving only his name, date of birth, date of death, and > some info I had that I thought might be helpful (addresses we had lived > at, that he fought in the Pacific Theatre etc). > > Where did I send it? In each case I just sent it to my regional office, > which for me was Atlanta since I live in Alabama (even tho they didn't > live there, that is what I was told to do). The regional office then > sends to whatever office holds the file. (In my grandfathers case it was > NY, in my fathers case it indeed was in Atlanta since he died here in > Alabama with me, and that is where the last correspondence of his death > cert was ). > > Now in my grandfather's case nearly 3 years ago, I got nearly 300 pages > of info on his Spanish American war record, his marriage certificate > (bingo!), records of war injuries (very detailed), his death cert, my > grandmother's application for pension, ending with her death > certificate. Got all this within a month. > > Now in Daddy's case, the usual "Petzolt curse" was involved, as I sent > away and never heard anything for a year. So I picked up the phone and > called around in Washington DC til I got the right office, and finally > found a very nice gentleman who said the man in charge had died right > around that time and much was left at loose ends, so he started the > paper trail for me again. It has been almost exactly 2 months since then > to yesterday when I received nearly 200 pages of info in my mailbox. > > In my fathers case, it was very interesting because many of you may know > many WW2 records were destroyed in a fire, but since his copies were in > his VA file, I have them, including some with burned edges! I did get > the info on his first marriage, details of his war injury since he was > claiming disability, and other things I had anyway (but might help > someone who did not have these things) like his funeral expenses, > application for a flag on the casket, death cert, even my own birth > certificate as he was claiming me (then) as a minor child. > > Did I mention all of this is FREE? Yup, free. > > I do not think you have to be related directly to that person, as > technically it goes to the FOIA (freedom of information act) Office of > the VA. > > So if you have someone who may have gotten VA benefits, or even just > applied for benefits even if they got turned down (because that's in a > file somewhere too).... this could be a goldmine of information. And in > my case, my Dad would never talk about his war injury, and now I finally > know the details. > > So take a peek at the Helpful Hints page (as I often remind people ) > there are sections there on what military records are available, and how > to get those great VA files (a well kept secret, and one I expect > eventually will be something we have to pay for.... due to the boom in > genealogy... so take advantage of it). > > And by the way.... another "hint"..... when you write for anything to > any office or library, use the term "family history" not "genealogy". > For some reason, "family history" gets better results. > > Hope this helps someone..... I know it's certainly helped me, and made > me feel closer to my Dad. > > Maura > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage > http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS > > Helpful Hints for Successful Searching > http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints > > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > ** Posts go to CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com **

The following entries from the PRO Index may be of interest: WO 97/947/77 PATRICK NEVILLE alias PATRICK NAVELLE Born LIMERICK, Limerick Served in 72nd Foot Regiment; 85th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 41 1813-1841 WO 97/1035/61 JOHN NEVILLE Born ARKENNY, Limerick Served in 95th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 41 1823-1845 Regards, Donnacha ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ccsherer@aol.com> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 6:55 PM Subject: [Cork] (Re: CountyCork-D Digest V02 #147( NEVILLE) > > HI: I am also searching for NEVILLES, possibly from co. Limerick. The only > info. I have is that Alice NEVILLE married Patrick CARROLL about 1813. They > lived near Clonmel in co. Tipperary, but have been unable to find any record > of their marriage in that area, so am assuming they married in the Parish > of the bride. Also have a Philip NEVILLE who married Alice Carey in about > 1860, emigrating to the US to Wi. Do any of these fit into your family? > Carol

Information on these names on my site at: <http://www.alphalink.com/cu/~datatree/index.htm>www.alphalink.com.au/~data tree/index.htm This site includes many names with links to Co Cork, Co Limerick and Co Clare families. BARRETT; BRENNAN; BURKE; BUTLER;  CALLAGHAN; CARMODY;  CARNEY; CARROL; CASEY; COFFEY; CONNORS; CONSIDINE; COSTELLO; CRONIN; CROWE; CULHANE; CUMMANE ; CUNEEN; CUNNINGHAM; CURREN; CUSHEN; DAVIS; DINAN; DONOVAN; DOOLAN; DOWD; DOWLING; DOWNEY; DURACK; EGAN; FITZGERALD; FITZGIBBON; FITZPATRICK; FLAGG; FLANNIGAN; FLOOD; FLYNN; FRAWLEY; FREYNE; FRYNE; GAYNOR;  GILLIGAN; GILTINANE; GLEESON; HANAHRAN; HANNAN; HANNON; HAYES; HICKE; HONAN; HOUGH; KANE; KEANE; KEATING; KELLY; KENEALY; KENNY; KIELY; KILDERRY LALLY LARKIN; LOWRIE; LYNCH; MACNAMARA; MADIGAN; MAGNER; MALONE; MALONEY; MCCARTHY; MCCAUSELAND; MCCORMACK; MCDERMOTT; MCDONNELL; MCGOVERN; MCGRATH; MCGUIGAN; MCINERNEY; MCINTOSH; MCINTYRE; MCMAHON; MCMANNUS; MCMENAMAN; MCNAMARA; MCSWEENEY; MILLAR; MINAHAN; MOLONEY; MOODIE; MORAN; MULCAHY; MULLANE; MURPHY; MURRAY; NEALON; NEARY; NESTOR; NEVILLE; NOLAN; O'BRIEN; O'CONNELL; O'CONNOR; O'DWYER; O'GRADY; O'KEEFFE; O'LEARY; O'MALLEY; O'NEILL; O'REILLY; O'SHEA; O'SULLIVAN; PIERCE; PURCELL; RAFFERTY; RALEIGH; REGAN; ROCHE; RYAN; SCALE; SHANNESSY; SHAUGHNESSY; SHEAHAN; SHEEDY; SHEEHAN; SHEEHY; SHINE; SLATTERY; STACK; STRITCH SWEENEY; TOBIN; TOOHEY; TORMEY; TRAYNOR; VAUGHAN; WALSH; WELSH;  Kate Press, Melbourne, Australia <http://www.alphalink.com.au/~datatree/index.htm>www.alphalink.com.au/~data tree/index.htm Researching Limerick families: Shine, Neylon, Sheehy, Connors, Neville

In a message dated 6/1/02 12:03:49 PM, CountyCork-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: >http://www.alphalink.com/cu/~datatree/index.htm>www.alphalink.com.au/~da= >ta >tree/index.htm HI: I am also searching for NEVILLES, possibly from co. Limerick. The only info. I have is that Alice NEVILLE married Patrick CARROLL about 1813. They lived near Clonmel in co. Tipperary, but have been unable to find any record of their marriage in that area, so am assuming they married in the Parish of the bride. Also have a Philip NEVILLE who married Alice Carey in about 1860, emigrating to the US to Wi. Do any of these fit into your family? Carol

I wasn't able to access it, it comes up file not found on the Alphalink page ----- Original Message ----- From: Kate Press <kpress@melbpc.org.au> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 2:11 AM Subject: [Cork] Co Cork, Co Limerick and Co Clare families. > Information on these names on my site at: > <http://www.alphalink.com/cu/~datatree/index.htm>www.alphalink.com.au/~data > tree/index.htm > > > This site includes many names with links to Co Cork, Co Limerick and Co Clare > families. > > BARRETT; BRENNAN; BURKE; BUTLER; CALLAGHAN; CARMODY; CARNEY; CARROL; CASEY; > COFFEY; CONNORS; CONSIDINE; COSTELLO; CRONIN; CROWE; CULHANE; CUMMANE ; > CUNEEN; > CUNNINGHAM; CURREN; CUSHEN; DAVIS; DINAN; DONOVAN; DOOLAN; DOWD; DOWLING; > DOWNEY; DURACK; EGAN; FITZGERALD; FITZGIBBON; FITZPATRICK; FLAGG; FLANNIGAN; > FLOOD; FLYNN; FRAWLEY; FREYNE; FRYNE; GAYNOR; GILLIGAN; GILTINANE; GLEESON; > HANAHRAN; HANNAN; HANNON; HAYES; HICKE; HONAN; HOUGH; KANE; KEANE; KEATING; > KELLY; KENEALY; KENNY; KIELY; KILDERRY LALLY LARKIN; LOWRIE; LYNCH; MACNAMARA; > MADIGAN; MAGNER; MALONE; MALONEY; MCCARTHY; MCCAUSELAND; MCCORMACK; MCDERMOTT; > MCDONNELL; MCGOVERN; MCGRATH; MCGUIGAN; MCINERNEY; MCINTOSH; MCINTYRE; > MCMAHON; > MCMANNUS; MCMENAMAN; MCNAMARA; MCSWEENEY; MILLAR; MINAHAN; MOLONEY; MOODIE; > MORAN; MULCAHY; MULLANE; MURPHY; MURRAY; NEALON; NEARY; NESTOR; NEVILLE; > NOLAN; > O'BRIEN; O'CONNELL; O'CONNOR; O'DWYER; O'GRADY; O'KEEFFE; O'LEARY; O'MALLEY; > O'NEILL; O'REILLY; O'SHEA; O'SULLIVAN; PIERCE; PURCELL; RAFFERTY; RALEIGH; > REGAN; ROCHE; RYAN; SCALE; SHANNESSY; SHAUGHNESSY; SHEAHAN; SHEEDY; SHEEHAN; > SHEEHY; SHINE; SLATTERY; STACK; STRITCH SWEENEY; TOBIN; TOOHEY; TORMEY; > TRAYNOR; VAUGHAN; WALSH; WELSH; > > > Kate Press, > Melbourne, Australia > <http://www.alphalink.com.au/~datatree/index.htm>www.alphalink.com.au/~data > tree/index.htm > Researching Limerick families: Shine, Neylon, Sheehy, Connors, Neville > > > > > > > > > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > ** Please use subject line appopriately! Put surnames in all CAPS ** > >

You'd have to know her religious order (look for obits of family members which might mention her ), then see the section on researching religious on my Helpful Hints page, url below. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints

Still harvesting these Geoghegans for a One Name Study..none of them will be mine having found them all after an 11 year search but I will help anyone else...for free! SUCH a deal!! Irish and UK indexes for this name and it's Variations josi My newsletters, including Volume nine, are at: www.jgeoghegan.org.uk and at: www.btinternet.com/~finty/

Can anyone offer me any info on women in the religious life in Cork? My grandfather had a sister who became a nun and came to the states and died here. I am trying to track her I only have her given name and date of birth I do not know the religious order and hope to find a data base or place to search where I could find what order and where she went in the states. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Nora

Hi Listers , I am researching the England family in Cork and am reposting my interests as new info has come to light . Bishop John England was born in Cork City in 1786 , the first child of Thomas England and Honora Lordan . My Lordans place of origin varies according to the source , but they were from the Dunderrow /Innishannon ,/Bandon / Enniskeane area . According to the new info , Bishop John England had a cousin called CALNAN from BANDON . Apparently also , one of the Bishops sisters married a FALVEY from INNISHANNON . I would love to hear from anyone researching these surnames in this area Regards Carol Jones (Wales UK)

If you need to unsubscribe from a list, sending a message to the list does not work! You need to send an unsubscribe command to the request address of whatever list you are talking about. AND you need to send it to the L request address if you are on regular mode or the D request address if you are on digest. These directions are given (1) in the Welcome Message you get when you subscribe which says "save this message for future reference" (2) in rotating taglines for regular format and at the top of -every- digest (3) on the lists homepage. Shamrock homepage url below. CountyCork http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/corkigw Waterford http://community.webtv.net/waterfordroots/waterford In each case, choose the link for the mailing list and follow the directions <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints

Re the Shine surname: ther is some information on this name on my site at <http://www.alphalink.com/cu/~datatree/index.htm>www.alphalink.com/cu/~data tree/index.htm This site includes many names with links to Co Cork, Co Limerick and Co Clare families. BARRETT; BRENNAN; BURKE; BUTLER;  CALLAGHAN; CARMODY;  CARNEY; CARROL; CASEY; COFFEY; CONNORS; CONSIDINE; COSTELLO; CRONIN; CROWE; CULHANE; CUMMANE ; CUNEEN; CUNNINGHAM; CURREN; CUSHEN; DAVIS; DINAN; DONOVAN; DOOLAN; DOWD; DOWLING; DOWNEY; DURACK; EGAN; FITZGERALD; FITZGIBBON; FITZPATRICK; FLAGG; FLANNIGAN; FLOOD; FLYNN; FRAWLEY; FREYNE; FRYNE; GAYNOR;  GILLIGAN; GILTINANE; GLEESON; HANAHRAN; HANNAN; HANNON; HAYES; HICKE; HONAN; HOUGH; KANE; KEANE; KEATING; KELLY; KENEALY; KENNY; KIELY; KILDERRY LALLY LARKIN; LOWRIE; LYNCH; MACNAMARA; MADIGAN; MAGNER; MALONE; MALONEY; MCCARTHY; MCCAUSELAND; MCCORMACK; MCDERMOTT; MCDONNELL; MCGOVERN; MCGRATH; MCGUIGAN; MCINERNEY; MCINTOSH; MCINTYRE; MCMAHON; MCMANNUS; MCMENAMAN; MCNAMARA; MCSWEENEY; MILLAR; MINAHAN; MOLONEY; MOODIE; MORAN; MULCAHY; MULLANE; MURPHY; MURRAY; NEALON; NEARY; NESTOR; NEVILLE; NOLAN; O'BRIEN; O'CONNELL; O'CONNOR; O'DWYER; O'GRADY; O'KEEFFE; O'LEARY; O'MALLEY; O'NEILL; O'REILLY; O'SHEA; O'SULLIVAN; PIERCE; PURCELL; RAFFERTY; RALEIGH; REGAN; ROCHE; RYAN; SCALE; SHANNESSY; SHAUGHNESSY; SHEAHAN; SHEEDY; SHEEHAN; SHEEHY; SHINE; SLATTERY; STACK; STRITCH SWEENEY; TOBIN; TOOHEY; TORMEY; TRAYNOR; VAUGHAN; WALSH; WELSH;  Kate Press, Melbourne, Australia <http://www.alphalink.com.au/~datatree/index.htm>www.alphalink.com.au/~data tree/index.htm Researching Limerick families: Shine, Neylon, Sheehy, Connors, Neville

The above mentioned person migrated to Australia C1839, a nursery maid and single. She is thought to have come from Carragaline (?)--her father Timothy and her mother Ellen McDonald. Any advice relating to Eliza Ann or her family gratefully received. Thankyou, Greg Ball.

Hi Listers I'm researching my family and am interested in any information about "Shine" families who emigrated from county Cork to the Dudley area west of Birmingham UK in the 1840s. I've located 4 of these families on the 1861 census all living in Campbell Street but cannot establish any relationship between the families themselves. However, of particular interest to me is the whereabouts of one Daniel Shine whom, I believe, is my GGF. Despite searching the whole of the 1861 census Dudley area I cannot find him (although some of the film is very difficult to read). Other facts about Daniel Shine:- One Daniel Shine married a Mary Kelly in Birmingham (Index Entry 1851 Mar 16 402) - marriage cert to be obtained. I have the birth cert of Cornelius Patrick Shine b 14/3/1854 at Stone Street Dudley. Father Daniel Shine. Mother Mary Shine formerly Kelly. (Cornelius Patrick may have been my GF) 1881 census shows a family with Sarah Kelly (Head) Daniel Shine (Sonl) Mary Shine (Daur) and 2 Shine gchildren (but not Cornelius Patrick who would have been 27 by now) living in Hall Carr Street Brightside Bierlow (Sheffield). If anyone can help I'd be most grateful of any info esp the whereabouts of Daniel and Mary between 1861 and 1881. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Two more bits. During my many visits to the FRC in London, I have been recording BMD index entries for the Shine surname. I have recorded from Sept 1837 to Sept 1957(births), Dec 1955(marriages), Dec 1946(deaths). I'm happy to supply info to anyone. Does anyone know the whereabouts of a Henry Alfred Shine, b 19/4/1922 in Battersea, London, last known to be living in Lisbon, Portugal in October 1971? Regards and thanks in anticipation BRS

Dear List, I am searching for some connection to Ireland, Or maybe England would be a better starting place. There was a David Armstrong(36) who sailed on a ship from Liverpool and came to Boston from the potato famine. Although there was no Carman/Carmen on board there was a Mr. Armstrong? The name of the ship was "The Chancellor". Can anyone identify these two men and say they are NOT the people for whom I am looking. Does anyone know anything about ANY Carman/Carmen Armstrong with a son named David in Ireland and/or England. Family history says they came "from the hills of Ireland, namely Cork". Does this ring true as to the terrain? It could be wrong. Is there somewhere I could check as for his spouse. I am assuming she had died by the time he immigrated to the U.S(1846-1950). If anyone know any way I could find out please help ! Dorothy (Armstrong) Snuggs dotjohn@cyberback.com

Hi Listers - I'm new to this list & seeking information about the Ward surname in County Cork. If unproven family info is true, then my GG-Grandfather Patrick Ward was born there in about 1798. His parents may have been Edward Ward & Anastasia Molloy. Please see my Ward website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jimward52/ward.htm for more information. Thanks! Jim Ward All outgoing mail is scanned by the latest updated Norton AntiVirus 2002.

William RENNY was convicted of larceny in 1836 in Cork and transported to Australia. Would anyone be able to find out details of this man in the Cork area prior to his conviction? Any information on a birth, marriage or even a death of this person would be appreciated. We believe he was married at the time of conviction. He does not appear in any death records in Australia and we wonder whether he returned home later in life. I have searched the online LDS records but have not found a match. Thanks Leonie