Many, many thanks to all of you out there that offered me advice on the above subject! I have chosen to use MyFamily.com to start with (at least till I become a bit more experienced!). Later I might try my hand at creating my own site independently - we will see how it goes. Anyone with interest in the names that I am researching, is more than welcome to email me and request access privileges. Thanks once again to all you kind people out there Kindest regards SEONAID LEWIS (nee Harvey) ------------ Researching: HARVEY (Kent, England; Newfoundland, Canada; Ireland), POTTLE, (Newfoundland), STEVENS (Kent), BOOTHER (London, Kent - England), SULLIVAN (Kent, England; Cork, Ireland) WARD (London, Kent - England), LITTLE (Edinburgh, Kilmarnock - Scotland) , MCKENZIE (Aberdeen - Scotland), DUNCAN (Edinburgh, Fife - Scotland), SWANSON (Aberdeen, Caithness - Scotland), DONALD (Aberdeen, Caithness - Scotland), LEWIS (Caernarvon, Gwynedd - Wales, London - England) JONES (Gwynedd - Wales) FIPKIN (London - England)

I am wondering if anyone on the list has access to copies or lists of marriage certificates from Kings Co. New York. My GGGrandfather, Richard CAVERLEY was married in Brooklyn sometime between 1860 and 1870 after his first wife had passed away. He was originally from Co. Cork. I do not know the names of Richard's parents (who I believe did not leave Ireland) but am hoping his parents names will be on the marriage certificate. I do not know the correct year of the marriage but I believe it occurred in the early part of the decade. All I know of the person he married was that her first name was Cecilia. Any suggestions or assistance would be appreciated. Russ Wood

Researching Thomas and Nora or Mary Looney Healy born late l830's who lived in Burnfort Island. They had the following known children, Thomas, James, Mary, Nora, Isaac, and Jeremiah. Mary, Nora, and Jeremiah immigrated to CT. Mary married a Gleason, Nora married a Kane, and Jeremiah married a Margaret O/Brien. Thank you for any assistance. Kathleen

The surnames Barry, Kenefeck, Sullivan, Dowling are related to Patrick and Johanna Keliher Bray from County Cork. Hoping to find parents's names of Johanna and Patrick. Thank you for any assistance. Kathleen

Researching Patrick Bray born Mogeely, Cork late l830's and immigrated to CT. Married to Johanna Keliher in either Ireland or CT. Need siblings and/or parents. Any assistance appreciated. Thank you. Kathleen

Researching Johanna Keliher/Keleher born Castlemartyr, County Cork late l830's or early l840's married Patrick Bray - not known whether it was in Ireland or in CT. They had the following children born l864 to l875. John, Patrick, Coleman, Margaret, Ellen, Michael, and Elizabeth. They lived in Portland, CT Johanna Keliher Bray died in Naugatuck, CT in 1922 and was buried in Portland CT. Thank you for any assistance you can give me. Kathleen

I would be interested to hear from anyone with CALLAGHAN (or variants) ancesters from Ireland who may be interested in taking part in the Y chromosone DNA testing project (male descendants of the male Callaghan line only). Thanks Tim

Try this http://interactive2.iol.ie/maps/; because there are many townlands with the same name you will have to have a good idea of where to look but it does work. the red dot marks the spot. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie & Terry" <chanters1@freenetname.co.uk> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: [Cork] Townland adjacencies > Hallo there, I am struggling with the Townland system for Cork ( or all > Ireland for that matter.) Can anyone advise if a map is available which > shows the townland and its immediate neighbours?

I thought the site link would be in my last message ---- Go to http://globalgenealogy.com then Maps - Ireland and so on. The site does have some great books ... Ann

I have not ordered any of these maps - but maybe this site is helpful. MAP LIST - Ireland, Northern Ireland, Irish - Genealogy & History Information, Indexes and Sources Ann

The following will help with some East cork townlands and some just west of Cork Harbour. http://members.tripod.com/~brensisk/Townlands.html Slán tamall Brendan Sisk http://brensisk.tripod.com/

For those folks on the list that are in the Los Angeles area the main public library in downtown LA has the complete set of these books on their shelves for perusual. Jeannine North Carolina

Is this not the "BOSTON PILOT" ?? David N Murray wrote: > Hi; > > Absent any old family letters or testimonials from octogenarians, the Search > for Missing Friends is by far the best source to consult when trying to > locate the places in America where your Irish ancestors and their relies > settled. > > If you are fortunate to have ancestors who were looking for tertiary > relations and friends, and sent a query to the Boston Post, this resource > may be the only source of first hand information that connects your American > family to their native Irish county and townland. > > This is great therapy for those Americans who are tearing their hair out by > the roots looking for their ancestral home, and will prove even more > valuable as time passes. > > To read more, click here: > > http://www.totalnetnh.net/~dmurray/search_for_missing_friends.htm > > David N. Murray > Email Address: dmurray@totalnetnh.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph Kenna" <jpkshamrock@webtv.net> > To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:25 PM > Subject: [SH] Fwd: Kenna/Kelly/Smith Family > > > > > --WebTV-Mail-26551-1152 > > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > > > > > --WebTV-Mail-26551-1152 > > Content-Disposition: Inline > > Content-Type: Message/RFC822 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > > > Received: from smtplocal-2001-1.public.lawson.webtv.net (209.240.212.85) > by > > storefull-2151.public.lawson.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 21 May > > 2002 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) > > Received: by smtplocal-2001-1.public.lawson.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id > > AD605BEDF; Tue, 21 May 2002 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) > > Delivered-To: jpkshamrock@mailsorter-bryant.bryant.webtv.net > > Received: from storefull-2156.public.lawson.webtv.net > (lawson-public-ipmux-1-a2-pip.public.lawson.webtv.net > > [209.240.212.5]) by smtplocal-2001-1.public.lawson.webtv.net > (WebTV_Postfix) > > with ESMTP id 74FB8BF03 for > <jpkshamrock@mailsorter-bryant.bryant.webtv.net>; > > Tue, 21 May 2002 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) > > Received: (from production@localhost) by > > storefull-2156.public.lawson.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) > > id LAA15011; Tue, 21 May 2002 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) > > X-WebTV-Signature: 1 > > ETAsAhQV0H0PcGWjGFJa8V0eQHqqgJJBJwIUDZTibnYuri4VQbj4hNOxtoVVQb8= > > From: jpkshamrock@webtv.net (Joseph Kenna) > > Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:03:01 -0400 (EDT) > > To: GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com, jpkshamrock@webtv.net > > Subject: Kenna/Kelly/Smith Family > > Message-ID: <20532-3CEA8BD5-5369@storefull-2156.public.lawson.webtv.net> > > Content-Disposition: Inline > > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) > > > > Searching for descendents of the Kenna/Kelly/Smith Family. The Kenna and > > Smith families were neighbors in the townland Sraghmore, village of > > Roundwood, County Wicklow. The Kelly family was from the adjoining > > townland Cloghoge. > > Peter Kenna married Mary Kelly 1849 (Mary Kelly's mother was nee > > Smith) in the St. Kevin Church Glendalough, County Wicklow. They resided > > in Sraghmore and had eight children; Patrick b. 1850, Elizabeth b. > > 1852, my grandfather John Charles b. 1856, Bridget b. 1858. In 1860 they > > were evicted from their house. They moved to a house named HERMANE in > > the townland Sleimaine and had Anne b. 1862, James b. 1863 and Mary b. > > 1864. Most of the Kenna children were sponsored in baptism by the > > members of the Peter-Judith Smith family. > > Peter and Mary died between 1864 and 1878. I do not know when they > > died nor where they are buried. John Charles and James H. emigrated to > > America between 1875 and 1878 settling in Philadelphia, PA. > > Patrick resided in Rathnew Commons after 1860 eviction. He met a > > girl (name unknown), married (date unknown) and had a son, Thomas. > > Patrick's wife died and he remarried (wife's name unknown) residing at > > #4 Corn Market, Dublin S. and they had two sons, Andy and Denis. > > Patrick's second wife died. Widower Patrick Kenna married widow > > Catherne (Kate) Lennon-Kennedy 1884 in St. James Church Dublin S. > > Catherine brought three grown daughters to the marriage. First daughter > > (name unknown) married Mr. Farrell, Station Master Foxrock RR station. > > Second daughter, Alice Lawless, also resided in Foxrock. Third daughter > > (name unknown) resided in Wicklow Town and died 1923. > > Any information on the Kenna/Kelly/Smith Family would be greatly > > appreciated. > > --Joseph P. Kenna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --WebTV-Mail-26551-1152-- > > > > > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > > ** Messages to the SHAMROCK list > > should be sent to > > SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com ** > > > > > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > ** Please do not send flames, chain letters, virus warnings or other off topic posts to the CountyCork list**

For those not familiar, here is a 1935 Townland Index Map for North Cork (Fermoy Area). http://www.totalnetnh.net/~dmurray/1935_townland_index_map.htm Have a nice day. David N. Murray Email Address: dmurray@totalnetnh.net

Bill at wpfahy@gis.net writes: << You may not realize that a general query like this cannot be answered because there is no overall townland map >> Bill, That's "sort of" correct, in that there is probably no single townland map. But there are sets of them available for all counties and can be purchased from the Ordnance Survey in Phoenix Park, Dublin. The maps are called Townland Index maps and are based upon the first and/or second series of 6" maps produced in the early part of the 1800's. For County Cork, there are 17 maps, most of them in the 20x28" size range. The price for these maps quadrupled immediately after I order my sets for all of the counties, and they now cost about U.S. 7 dollars each ! And it takes "only" 169 of these beauties to cover the Republic <grin>. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

I looked at the site and noticed that 1877-1920 was not in their collection. Does anyone know where it is? Where we can search it. The CD sounds great but I would hate to spend $70 to not find the one or two people on there I am looking for. Regards, Susan Jeffery Tokyo, Japan Researching Ryan, Slattery of Co. Tipperary (Ire) and Boston, O'Brien, O'Sullivan of Co.Cork (Ire) and Boston, Researching Palmer, Sanders, Brady in central PA, USA

To add to this posting, a CD is in the process of being issued and it may be purchased from http://www.newenglandancestors.org/ Eileen Sullivan Tormey Marlborough MA Researching: Sullivan, Collins and Birchills of Skibbereen/Lynch from Limerick. >From: "David N Murray" <dmurray@totalnetnh.net> >To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Cork] The Search for Missing Friends >Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:01:19 -0400 > >Hi; > >Absent any old family letters or testimonials from octogenarians, the >Search >for Missing Friends is by far the best source to consult when trying to >locate the places in America where your Irish ancestors and their relies >settled. > >If you are fortunate to have ancestors who were looking for tertiary >relations and friends, and sent a query to the Boston Post, this resource >may be the only source of first hand information that connects your >American >family to their native Irish county and townland. > >This is great therapy for those Americans who are tearing their hair out by >the roots looking for their ancestral home, and will prove even more >valuable as time passes. > >To read more, click here: > >http://www.totalnetnh.net/~dmurray/search_for_missing_friends.htm > >David N. Murray >Email Address: dmurray@totalnetnh.net >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Joseph Kenna" <jpkshamrock@webtv.net> >To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:25 PM >Subject: [SH] Fwd: Kenna/Kelly/Smith Family > > > > > > --WebTV-Mail-26551-1152 > > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > > > > > --WebTV-Mail-26551-1152 > > Content-Disposition: Inline > > Content-Type: Message/RFC822 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > > > Received: from smtplocal-2001-1.public.lawson.webtv.net (209.240.212.85) >by > > storefull-2151.public.lawson.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 21 May > > 2002 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) > > Received: by smtplocal-2001-1.public.lawson.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id > > AD605BEDF; Tue, 21 May 2002 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) > > Delivered-To: jpkshamrock@mailsorter-bryant.bryant.webtv.net > > Received: from storefull-2156.public.lawson.webtv.net >(lawson-public-ipmux-1-a2-pip.public.lawson.webtv.net > > [209.240.212.5]) by smtplocal-2001-1.public.lawson.webtv.net >(WebTV_Postfix) > > with ESMTP id 74FB8BF03 for ><jpkshamrock@mailsorter-bryant.bryant.webtv.net>; > > Tue, 21 May 2002 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) > > Received: (from production@localhost) by > > storefull-2156.public.lawson.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) > > id LAA15011; Tue, 21 May 2002 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) > > X-WebTV-Signature: 1 > > ETAsAhQV0H0PcGWjGFJa8V0eQHqqgJJBJwIUDZTibnYuri4VQbj4hNOxtoVVQb8= > > From: jpkshamrock@webtv.net (Joseph Kenna) > > Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:03:01 -0400 (EDT) > > To: GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com, jpkshamrock@webtv.net > > Subject: Kenna/Kelly/Smith Family > > Message-ID: <20532-3CEA8BD5-5369@storefull-2156.public.lawson.webtv.net> > > Content-Disposition: Inline > > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) > > > > Searching for descendents of the Kenna/Kelly/Smith Family. The Kenna and > > Smith families were neighbors in the townland Sraghmore, village of > > Roundwood, County Wicklow. The Kelly family was from the adjoining > > townland Cloghoge. > > Peter Kenna married Mary Kelly 1849 (Mary Kelly's mother was nee > > Smith) in the St. Kevin Church Glendalough, County Wicklow. They resided > > in Sraghmore and had eight children; Patrick b. 1850, Elizabeth b. > > 1852, my grandfather John Charles b. 1856, Bridget b. 1858. In 1860 they > > were evicted from their house. They moved to a house named HERMANE in > > the townland Sleimaine and had Anne b. 1862, James b. 1863 and Mary b. > > 1864. Most of the Kenna children were sponsored in baptism by the > > members of the Peter-Judith Smith family. > > Peter and Mary died between 1864 and 1878. I do not know when they > > died nor where they are buried. John Charles and James H. emigrated to > > America between 1875 and 1878 settling in Philadelphia, PA. > > Patrick resided in Rathnew Commons after 1860 eviction. He met a > > girl (name unknown), married (date unknown) and had a son, Thomas. > > Patrick's wife died and he remarried (wife's name unknown) residing at > > #4 Corn Market, Dublin S. and they had two sons, Andy and Denis. > > Patrick's second wife died. Widower Patrick Kenna married widow > > Catherne (Kate) Lennon-Kennedy 1884 in St. James Church Dublin S. > > Catherine brought three grown daughters to the marriage. First daughter > > (name unknown) married Mr. Farrell, Station Master Foxrock RR station. > > Second daughter, Alice Lawless, also resided in Foxrock. Third daughter > > (name unknown) resided in Wicklow Town and died 1923. > > Any information on the Kenna/Kelly/Smith Family would be greatly > > appreciated. > > --Joseph P. Kenna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --WebTV-Mail-26551-1152-- > > > > > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > > ** Messages to the SHAMROCK list > > should be sent to > > SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com ** > > > > > > > >==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== >** Please do not send flames, chain letters, virus warnings or other off >topic posts to the CountyCork list** _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Hallo there, I am struggling with the Townland system for Cork ( or all Ireland for that matter.) Can anyone advise if a map is available which shows the townland and its immediate neighbours? I have one group of relatives who lived in one townland and another (same name) lot lived in the same parish but how far away was it? Given that some of these were only a few acres in size there must have been quite a few to make up a village or a parish. Any one able to help please? The long list of Townlands for Co Cork, for example, is not very helpful when you have defined the parish and the Poor Law Union but you can't place adjoining sites in the same village. Terry

Hi; Absent any old family letters or testimonials from octogenarians, the Search for Missing Friends is by far the best source to consult when trying to locate the places in America where your Irish ancestors and their relies settled. If you are fortunate to have ancestors who were looking for tertiary relations and friends, and sent a query to the Boston Post, this resource may be the only source of first hand information that connects your American family to their native Irish county and townland. This is great therapy for those Americans who are tearing their hair out by the roots looking for their ancestral home, and will prove even more valuable as time passes. To read more, click here: http://www.totalnetnh.net/~dmurray/search_for_missing_friends.htm David N. Murray Email Address: dmurray@totalnetnh.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Kenna" <jpkshamrock@webtv.net> To: <SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: [SH] Fwd: Kenna/Kelly/Smith Family > > --WebTV-Mail-26551-1152 > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > > --WebTV-Mail-26551-1152 > Content-Disposition: Inline > Content-Type: Message/RFC822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > Received: from smtplocal-2001-1.public.lawson.webtv.net (209.240.212.85) by > storefull-2151.public.lawson.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 21 May > 2002 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) > Received: by smtplocal-2001-1.public.lawson.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id > AD605BEDF; Tue, 21 May 2002 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) > Delivered-To: jpkshamrock@mailsorter-bryant.bryant.webtv.net > Received: from storefull-2156.public.lawson.webtv.net (lawson-public-ipmux-1-a2-pip.public.lawson.webtv.net > [209.240.212.5]) by smtplocal-2001-1.public.lawson.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) > with ESMTP id 74FB8BF03 for <jpkshamrock@mailsorter-bryant.bryant.webtv.net>; > Tue, 21 May 2002 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) > Received: (from production@localhost) by > storefull-2156.public.lawson.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) > id LAA15011; Tue, 21 May 2002 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) > X-WebTV-Signature: 1 > ETAsAhQV0H0PcGWjGFJa8V0eQHqqgJJBJwIUDZTibnYuri4VQbj4hNOxtoVVQb8= > From: jpkshamrock@webtv.net (Joseph Kenna) > Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:03:01 -0400 (EDT) > To: GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com, jpkshamrock@webtv.net > Subject: Kenna/Kelly/Smith Family > Message-ID: <20532-3CEA8BD5-5369@storefull-2156.public.lawson.webtv.net> > Content-Disposition: Inline > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) > > Searching for descendents of the Kenna/Kelly/Smith Family. The Kenna and > Smith families were neighbors in the townland Sraghmore, village of > Roundwood, County Wicklow. The Kelly family was from the adjoining > townland Cloghoge. > Peter Kenna married Mary Kelly 1849 (Mary Kelly's mother was nee > Smith) in the St. Kevin Church Glendalough, County Wicklow. They resided > in Sraghmore and had eight children; Patrick b. 1850, Elizabeth b. > 1852, my grandfather John Charles b. 1856, Bridget b. 1858. In 1860 they > were evicted from their house. They moved to a house named HERMANE in > the townland Sleimaine and had Anne b. 1862, James b. 1863 and Mary b. > 1864. Most of the Kenna children were sponsored in baptism by the > members of the Peter-Judith Smith family. > Peter and Mary died between 1864 and 1878. I do not know when they > died nor where they are buried. John Charles and James H. emigrated to > America between 1875 and 1878 settling in Philadelphia, PA. > Patrick resided in Rathnew Commons after 1860 eviction. He met a > girl (name unknown), married (date unknown) and had a son, Thomas. > Patrick's wife died and he remarried (wife's name unknown) residing at > #4 Corn Market, Dublin S. and they had two sons, Andy and Denis. > Patrick's second wife died. Widower Patrick Kenna married widow > Catherne (Kate) Lennon-Kennedy 1884 in St. James Church Dublin S. > Catherine brought three grown daughters to the marriage. First daughter > (name unknown) married Mr. Farrell, Station Master Foxrock RR station. > Second daughter, Alice Lawless, also resided in Foxrock. Third daughter > (name unknown) resided in Wicklow Town and died 1923. > Any information on the Kenna/Kelly/Smith Family would be greatly > appreciated. > --Joseph P. Kenna > > > > > > > > --WebTV-Mail-26551-1152-- > > > ==== SHAMROCK Mailing List ==== > ** Messages to the SHAMROCK list > should be sent to > SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com ** > >

Terry, You may not realize that a general query like this cannot be answered because there is no overall townland map. If you have specific civil parishes several people may help. I can help with West Cork if I know the civil parishes you have an interest in. Go to my website for a map of civil parishes of West Cork. www.westcork.homestead.com Bill Fahy