Please could someone help me with the location of Waterloo. Is it a part of Blarney or a seperate village? Also does anyone know if there are any census records for this area prior to 1881 and if so where are they kept? Regards Jean

Sorry, just a correction. It's the Model Farm area of Cork!

Can anyone tell me where the Model Farm area of Cork is? I was told that my relatives were from that area prior to moving to Macroney Parish. I think it might have been outside of the city of Cork on the road to Mallow. Does anyone have any info on this area? Also, if they were from that area, which church or parish might they have belonged to? Bill O'Loughlin

A lister queried regarding BMD registers at St Finnbarr's Church, Cork. According to 'A Table of Church of Ireland Parochial Records and Copies', published by Irish Family History Society Naas, Co. Kildare, 1994, the records of the reference Church were destroyed in 1922 during the War. I suggest that the Lister write to 'Libarian and Archivist, The Church of Ireland, Representative Church Body Library, Braemore Park, Churchtown, Dublin 14' for additional information as some records MAY have been reconstituted. 0841MST 31 August 2002. John Myers, Cave Creek, Arizona, USA

Hello Once again I am getting desperate and thought there just might be someone out there researching LYNCH Families DANIEL SON OF JEREMIAH & ELLEN nee MULLANE born 1831/33 at BALLYVOURNEY LORRAINE ANDERTON FROM NZ

A good source for parish and townland maps is Valuation Office Ireland. The E-mail address is brendan.robbins@valoff.ie. I believe they cost euro 12.70. They reply promptly to all requests, at least in my experience. 1110MST 29 August 2002. John Myers, Cave Creek, Arizona, USA

Lorraine, If you go to www.familysearch.org and do a search you will find the following; Daniel Lynch Christening 1831 Roman Catholic Ballyvourney Batch #C700761 Source Call #0823808 Parents: Terh Lynch & Ellen Mullane. Yes, it does read Terh rather than Jerh for Jeremiah. Bill Fahy

Message text written by INTERNET:CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com >Hi Listers Would like to hear from anyone researching Cavanagh or Rourke(O'Rourke) from Cork. Wendy Main Ontario, Canada< If you know of any teacher O'Rourkes, let me know. Peter Foley went to Trinity College Dublin in the 1850s "from the school of Mr. Rourke" or O'Rourke. Two spellings in different places. Foley was definitely living in Co Cork by 1853 although he was born in Co Kerry. Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com

> family) before sailing from Cobh, met my ggrandmother in the area. I need to > check for marriage records. I realize there is no heritage center in this > area of Cork. Has anyone had luck with writing to the parish priest in the > nearest parish to Cobh? Jan, there is a heritage centre in Cobh, although I don't know what records they hold. It's called "Cobh - The Queenstown Story" and it's phone number is + 353 (0)21 4813591 It's e-mail address is cobhher@indigo.ie and it has a web site at www.cobhheritage.com I don't know how good the parish priest is for responding, but you might want to try; St. Coleman's Cathedral Parish Office, Cobh, Co. Cork at +353 (0)21 4813222 Good luck, Tracey.

> I am searching for information on John Harrington of the Caobach line, from Castletownbere. John was born Kristey, are you on the Beara list? It is for the Beara Peninsula specifically. It sounds like you have a lot of info already. Professional genealogist Riobard O'Dwyer has written books containing the "family trees" of the various parishes, but unfortunately some of them are sold out. I think his address is riobardodwyer@eircom.net but if this isn't right he is fairly active on the list anyway. He researches this area only (no queries on other parts of Cork or anywhere else!). If you don't want to contact him immediately you could always "lurk" on the list for a while. Hope this helps, Tracey.

Hi List, I have a female ancestor who came to New South Wales and her average age when she married in Sydney in 1840 was 18 years, this makes her born in c1822. After 1856 when registration became compulsory in New South Wales, she said she came from Carrigaline in County Cork in Ireland. The Society of Australian Genealogists ( SAG ) - Irish Group - advised me where she said she came from was where she was born in Ireland. I am researching - 1. Assisted Immigrants to New South Wales 1828 to 1842. 2. New South Wales Convict Arrivals 1788 to 1842. 3. Residents of the Female Factory at Parramatta in New South Wales 1826 to 1848. I am using the book " Irish Records " by Dr. James. G. Ryan Ph.D. 1988 edition which is used in the Latter Day Saint's Family History Library at Charlestown for Church of Ireland and Roman Catholic Parishes for all of Ireland. I am using it to compile a database of Roman Catholic Parishes in 1820 for Co Cork. I have just commenced to look at the Irish details in Mother Hubbard's Cupboard.on line. I wish to compile a 89 cm (35 inches ) wide by 68 cms ( 27 inches ) high map of County Cork Roman Catholic Parishes. I have heard that maps are available from the Ordinance Office in Dublin. I am considering using Heritage Centres in County Cork for my Irish searching. Could list members please advise me of the following points - 1. Are Heritage Centre research charges reasonable. 2. Do I have a good chance of locating an 1822 Roman Catholic birth in Carrigaline in County Cork by using the Heritage Centre for that Region. 3. Do I have a chance to obtain a 89 cm wide by 68 cm high map of County Cork in 1820. 4. What maps should I considering purchasing for 1 1/4 inch to the statute mile for Carrigaline in County Cork and where would I have to write to, to purchase what I need and could you please indicate the possible price of the map. Thanking you, John Murphy, Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia. murph@idl.net.au

Hi listers I am trying to find information about my ancestor JANE AVIS. Jane was born about 1806, and gives her place of birth as City of Cork, Ireland on the 1851 census for Helmingham, Suffolk, England. Jane married RICHARD BRUNNING at Helmingham in 1824, and was "of the parish" at this time. Jane was protestant, and may have earned her Helmingham parish status by working there for a year, but I wonder if she could have been born in Ireland of English parents, possibly military, or whether she just came to England to work. If anyone knows of any AVIS families of this time in Cork, I would love to hear from them. Best wishes Yvonne Researching; SUFFOLK; GOODWIN, BRUNNING, AVIS, TAYLOR, PRETTY/PRITTY, BROWN, WILSON, CURTIS, MATTHEWS, BOONE, HUNTER. HERTS; SAUNDERS, REID/READ/REED, SEABROOK, PATERNOSTER, HUMPHREYS, PARKINS, TENNANT. BEDS; READ/REED, TENNANT. MIDDX; SAUNDERS. IRELAND - CLARE; Mc MAHON, HICKEY, RYAN. THERE ARE NO ATTACHMENTS TO THIS MESSAGE! --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes

John at murph@idl.net.au writes: << What maps should I considering purchasing for 1 1/4 inch to the statute mile for Carrigaline in County Cork and where would I have to write to, to purchase what I need and could you please indicate the possible price of the map. >> John, The map you want is the Discovery Map # 87, published by the Ordnance Survey of Ireland. I understand that this series of maps is either available, or can be ordered through, Gould Books there in Australia. The charge is about 7 or 8 U.S. dollars (that's a few hundred Australian dollars <grin>). You may have to pay a bit more because of postage, but that's the general price range. It's a great map. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Wendy, The story goes that our CAVANAGH/CAVANAUGH relatives resided in Cork for some time before leaving for the US. This would have been in the late 1840's to mid 1850's. The family of BRYAN CAVANAGH was originally from Kilkenney. His wife was Mary HART or COLLINS. They had three daughters: Catherine, Julia, and Mary. They are a difficult family to trace, so it would be great if you recognized these names or that someone else would. Good luck with your research. Charlene This message was written using Web Email from ACC http://www.accnorwalk.com

Yes! Carol, the name of newspaper would be good please, thanks anyway for giving what you do. Phyllis Steel Qld. Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth W. Knowlton" <KnowltonEW@compuserve.com> To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:34 AM Subject: [Cork] Forgot the Death notices for Oct 1870 > Carol, Don't forget to list the newspaper title each time. > Can anyone post these to a permanent web site? > > Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com > > > Message text written by INTERNET:CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > >Hl listers , > There were only three , but you never know . > Regards > Carol > > October 1870 < > > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > ** To contact the listowner, send a message to mpetzolt2@webtv.net ** > >

Hi Listers Would like to hear from anyone researching Cavanagh or Rourke(O'Rourke) from Cork. Wendy Main Ontario, Canada __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

Unfortunately the librarian has not marked the photocopies with the name / dates of most of my photocopies . If I had done the photocopies myself , obviously I would have done this , and its quite annoying not to have the details , but I was just happy to get the photocopies anyhow . Regards Carol PS . I imagine these notices could go on the newspaper extracts website , but not sure as I dont have the full details of the sources .

Carol, Don't forget to list the newspaper title each time. Can anyone post these to a permanent web site? Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com Message text written by INTERNET:CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com >Hl listers , There were only three , but you never know . Regards Carol October 1870 <

Hi listers, Would anyone have access to Mallow Deaths not sure of the date 1889-1894 for Louisa Amelia Shields Wife of John Shields They lived in Mallow at the time of her death. Regards Mary CountyCork-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > CountyCork-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 215 > > Today's Topics: > #1 RE: [Cork] KATE(Katherine) and MAR ["Elizabeth W. Knowlton" <KnowltonE] > #2 RE: [Cork] KATE(Katherine) and MAR ["Sherry Corder" <shamrock9@socket.] > #3 [Cork] NORA MURPHY from Ballyhoole [Sister Eileen P Tierney <etcnd1@ju] > #4 [Cork] NORA MURPHY from Ballyhooly [Sister Eileen P Tierney <etcnd1@ju] > #5 [Cork] BARONY OF IMMOKILLY ["K & C Freeston" <kencar@tpg.com.a] > #6 [Cork] Forgot the Death notices fo [Cazjaz2@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > > Messages to the list should be sent to > CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > > To unsubscribe from the digest send the word unsubscribe in the body of an email with no other text (leave subject line blank and turn off signature line) to CountyCork-D-request@rootsweb.com > > CountyCork Mailing List homepage (for list guidelines and how to subscribe/unsubscribe) http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/countycork > > To contact the listowner send a message to mpetzolt2@webtv.net > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: [Cork] KATE(Katherine) and MARY MALLOY > Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:49:12 -0400 > From: "Elizabeth W. Knowlton" <KnowltonEW@compuserve.com> > To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > > Sherry > Have you looked for an obituary in a local St Louis > paper for Kate Nugent? and have you found her tombstone? > Those are the most likely records to give place of origin. > Also, check the church records for shortly after > migration. I am assuming they are Roman Catholic, and > sometimes the priest has information about their origin > in the records. > Most obviously, what I meant to say the other > night, if they came to the USA, is have you found > them on the Ellis Island site? You have the right > time period. The place of residence column > gave the tiny Mayo village of my gr gr uncle in 1900. > > Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com > > Message text written by INTERNET:CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > >Elizabeth, > > I am told that the Malloys originated from County Cork, Ireland. They were > living in St. Louis, Missouri at the time of Kate Nugent's (nee Malloy) > death. > > Thanks again > Sherry< > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: [Cork] KATE(Katherine) and MARY MALLOY > Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:27:01 -0500 > From: "Sherry Corder" <shamrock9@socket.net> > To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > > Elizabeth, > > Right now I am waiting for copies of the obits from the St. Louis, Missouri > paper. I do know Katherine's date of death is 12/17/1918 and I know that > she was 28 years old when she died. Supposedly her husband died around the > same time during the same influenza epidemic. However I can not seem to > find a trace of him anywhere. When I look at the burial lot where Katherine > is buried, there are TWO Patrick Nugents and THREE Catherine/Kate Nugents. > Unfortunately none of the ones that are buried there fit into an age group > anywhere near Katherine's age. > > MY luck to find a family that likes to keep using the same names over and > over... lol > > Thanks again ! > > Sherry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elizabeth W. Knowlton [mailto:KnowltonEW@compuserve.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 4:49 PM > To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [Cork] KATE(Katherine) and MARY MALLOY > > Sherry > Have you looked for an obituary in a local St Louis > paper for Kate Nugent? and have you found her tombstone? > Those are the most likely records to give place of origin. > Also, check the church records for shortly after > migration. I am assuming they are Roman Catholic, and > sometimes the priest has information about their origin > in the records. > Most obviously, what I meant to say the other > night, if they came to the USA, is have you found > them on the Ellis Island site? You have the right > time period. The place of residence column > gave the tiny Mayo village of my gr gr uncle in 1900. > > Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com > > Message text written by INTERNET:CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > >Elizabeth, > > I am told that the Malloys originated from County Cork, Ireland. They were > living in St. Louis, Missouri at the time of Kate Nugent's (nee Malloy) > death. > > Thanks again > Sherry< > > ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== > ** To unsubscribe from the Cork list send unsubscribe in the body of an > email with no other text to CountyCork-L-request@rootsweb.com ** > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [Cork] NORA MURPHY from Ballyhooley, Cork (Not sure of the spelling) > Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:55:57 -0500 > From: Sister Eileen P Tierney <etcnd1@juno.com> > To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello Listers, > > I am delighted to say that I have located in NYC some long lost cousins > who have the same grgrandmother as I... Nora Murphy. There is much > information which neither of us has, but I did learn from them that Nora > Murphy came from a large family in Ballyhooly which I understand is in > Cork. > > This is what I learned: > One of her brothers died as a young boy - drowned in the whirlpool of the > Blackwater River. > At least two brothers went to Australia to look for gold. They found it, > came back to Ireland (Ballyhooly), bought farms and married. My grandaunt > told stories of them having very long beards. > > We don't know the year of Nora's birth nor when she married John > Archdeacon. It seems that the oldest of their four daughters was born in > 1877. I know for a fact that my grandmother, Nellie (Mary Ellen) > Archdeacon, the youngest of the 4, was born in 1885. > > John Archdeacon left Ireland for NYC to find work > (shipbuilding/carpentry???) In time, when his wife NORA MURPHY > ARCHDEACON didn't hear from him, she feared he was ill so she set off > with the youngest and oldest girls to find him in NY. > (as the story goes, their letters and maybe their ships, passed each > other). Nora was ill during the trip and a short time after landing, > died in NY leaving the 2 children she brought with her orphans in a > strange city. > > Meanwhile, back in Ireland, the two other girls, Katie and Mamie > Archdeacon went to live with and were well cared for by Nora's brother > James Murphy and sister ___Murphy in Balleyhooley. > > My recently-found cousins are granddaughters of one of the girls (Mamie) > who came over sometime between 1896-1898. In 1908 she married Michael > Hade in NYC. She died in 1967. > > The girls remember Mamie telling them they had lots of MURPHY relatives > in Ballyhooly. > > Does anyone have any info on any MURPHY family members from the > Ballyhooley area? > Do you know the name of any Catholic Church in that area? > We can only estimate NORA's DoB to be sometime between 1850-1857. That > would have made her about 20-27 when her oldest girl was born. > > We know nothing more about JOHN ARCHDEACON other than even the two girls > in Ireland never saw/heard from him until the 4 girls were married and > living in NYC. > At that point in time they heard from him that he was living in England > and 'down on his luck'. The girls were trying to raise the money for his > passage to NY where they could rent an apartment for him. Unfortunately, > he died - in England - before they were able to send him any money. > > If anyone has any leads for us - small as they may be - we would be > grateful if you would direct them to me ... > Eileen Tierney,cnd at etcnd1@Juno.com. > > Thank you! > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [Cork] NORA MURPHY from Ballyhooly (unsure of Spelling) > Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:08:52 -0500 > From: Sister Eileen P Tierney <etcnd1@juno.com> > To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello Listers, > > I am delighted to say that I have located in NYC some long lost cousins > who have the same grgrandmother as I... Nora Murphy. There is much > information which neither of us has, but I did learn from them that: > Nora Murphy came from a large family in Ballyhooly. > One of her brothers died as a young boy - drowned in the whirlpool of the > Blackwater River. > At least two brothers went to Australia to look for gold. They found it, > came back to Ireland (Ballyhooly), bought farms and married. My grandaunt > told stories of them having very long beards. > > We don't know the year of Nora's birth nor when she married John > Archdeacon. It seems that the oldest of their four daughters was born in > 1877. I know for a fact that my grandmother, Nellie (Mary Ellen) > Archdeacon, the youngest of the 4, was born in 1885 in then Queenstown. > They lived on Harbor View Rd. > > John Archdeacon left Ireland for NYC to find work > (shipbuilding/carpentry???) In time, when his wife NORA MURPHY > ARCHDEACON didn't hear from him, she feared he was ill so she set off > with the youngest and oldest girls to find him in NY. > (as the story goes, their letters and maybe their ships, passed each > other). Nora was ill during the trip and a short time after landing, > died in NY leaving the 2 children she brought with her orphans in a > strange city. > > Meanwhile, back in Ireland, the two other girls, Katie and Mamie > Archdeacon went to live with and were well cared for by Nora's brother > James and sister ___ in Balleyhooley. > > My recently-found cousins are granddaughters of one of the girls (Mamie) > who came over sometime between 1896-1898. In 1908 she married Michael > Hade in NYC. She died in 1967. > > The girls remember Mamie telling them they had lots of MURPHY relatives > in Ballyhooly. > > Does anyone have any info on any MURPHY family members from the > Ballyhooley area? > Do you know the name of any Catholic Church in that area? > We can only estimate NORA's DoB to be sometime between 1850-1857. That > would have made her about 20-27 when her oldest girl was born. > > We know nothing more about JOHN ARCHDEACON other than even the two girls > in Ireland never saw/heard from him until the 4 girls were married and > living in NYC. > At that point in time they heard from him that he was living in England > and 'down on his luck'. The girls were trying to raise the money for his > passage to NY where they could rent an apartment for him. Unfortunately, > he died - in England - before they were able to send him any money. > > If anyone has any leads for us - small as they may be - we would be > grateful if you would direct them to me ... > Eileen Tierney,cnd at etcnd1@Juno.com. > > Thank you! > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [Cork] BARONY OF IMMOKILLY > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:23:51 +1000 > From: "K & C Freeston" <kencar@tpg.com.au> > To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > > I am researching the name SLINEY,(Slaney) a rare Cork name, with origins in > the Barony of Imokilly, mainly in the area of the Middleton Poor Law Union. > There seem to be a high proportion of mariners amongst them. I am interested > in any references to the name in the general area. If anyone has any > indexes/resources that they are prepared to look up, I would be very > grateful for any information prior to 1850's(Griffiths). Negative results > would also be helpful. > > Many thanks, Carol Freeston NSW Australia > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [Cork] Forgot the Death notices for Oct 1870 > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 08:13:44 EDT > From: Cazjaz2@aol.com > To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com > > Hl listers , > There were only three , but you never know . > Regards > Carol > > October 1870 > > Deaths > > ENGLAND - On the 21st inst, at his son's residence , in Sunday's Well , Mr > Michael P England , in the 79th year of his age . > > IRWIN - On Thursday morning , suddenly , at her residence, 14 Upper Mallow > Street , Limerick , Bithia , wife of Wm Irwin Esq. > > O'CONNELL - On the 18th inst. after a protracted illness , Mr William > O'Connell , leather merchant , late of William Street , aged 46 years .

Carol, The SLINEY surname is associated with the Fishing Village of BALLYCOTTON (Ballycottin) in the Civil parish of CLOYNE in the PLU of Middleton. I can't help with any info prior to 1850 but can send you details from 1901 & 1911 Census. If that's any help. Slán tamall Brendan Sisk http://brensisk.tripod.com/