Alice By the 1840 Liverpool was the major immigration port and leading commercial port of Britain, it had the facilities to take the large (and therefore 'safe') ships, travel on railways to get there was cheep, and the transatlantic services were cheaper and more frequent. It wasn't until 1858, when there was an attempt to establish a transatlantic steamship service from Galway, that the Liverpool based lines were forced to call at Queenstown in order to head off the competition. Sailings from Queenstown started in 1859 but Liverpool remained the major port until about 1867. Michael > Can anyone explain to me the connection between Cork and Liverpool?

Born 1864 alleged to be Cork is anyone else looking for the Geoghegans and its variants? thank you jo

I did it again !!! forgot to include the URL http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/hanson/ Michael

Cronin families of Cork has been updated The whole site has been changed to alter its appearance and make it more printer friendly. It is now organised into eight main sections, Origins, BDM, census, census substitutes, deeds, probate, miscellaneous, and families. Each section states with a page aimed at newbies and is based around records available from the LDS. A new Families section has been added. This is intended to be both a roll call page and a place where the results of Cronin research can be posted. Cronin researchers are invited to submit their own material but please read the guidelines first. Griffiths extracts for Kinalmeaky, West Muskerry, Courceys and Kinsale have been added since the last update. People with very old browsers or Web TV may not see the site exactly as intended but should still be able to see most of the information. Michael

Thank you! My confusion rests in the passenger list notation that the "last place of residence" was listed as Liverpool. But It seemed to be listed that way for most of the passengers. So, it may be that no one even asked the passengers where they last lived. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sea Witch" <SeeWich@aol.com> To: "alicepat47" <alicepat47@attbi.com>; <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Cork] Cork and Liverpool > I am certain I read once that the ship's declared port of embarkation as it > appears on U.S. Passenger arrival lists was the port last visited in Europe > before crossing the Atlantic. Thus, a ship that picked up passengers in > Cork, Cobh, Dublin, etc., and then sailed to Liverpool before departing for > North America would indicate port of embarkation as Liverpool. Although many > people did indeed use a stepped migration pattern in order to get sufficient > funds and then depart Europe, everyone that shows Liverpool as a departure > point was not necessarily engaged in such a strategy. > > Hope this helps. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alicepat47" <alicepat47@attbi.com> > To: <CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:29 PM > Subject: [Cork] Cork and Liverpool > > > > Can anyone explain to me the connection between Cork and Liverpool? > Actually between the "Great Emigration" and Liverpool? I found my great > grandfather on the ship George Washington. (Port of Boston, 1859) Now I need > to figure out how to trace him from Liverpool where he embarked on the > George Washington for Boston to Ireland where he was born. How long did > people typically live in Liverpool before they found the money and the ship? > I know my family originated in Ireland. I know James Wall arrived in Boston > in 1859. I'm not positive about which county he came from because family > lore gives me three from which to choose. But facts show he arrived on a > ship out of Liverpool, England. I would dearly appreciate a history lesson > here. Can anyone direct me to a website that explains the Ireland-Liverpool > connection? > > Thanks. This is a really good list. > > Alice > > She who really can't wait to find out why Alice was an important name in > her family. Not to Mention Frederick L. Wall, a name that has German > roots...in an Irish family. > > > > ______________________________ > >

Alice, it is possible that your ancestor never was in Liverpool... My great grandfather VICKERY, who emigrated from Cork in 1850 and returned to visit almost 30 years later, wrote about how would-be passengers were rowed out into the harbor to board ships as they came down the chanel between England and Ireland. Since the ship did not put into port, those passengers would have been listed as boarding from Liverpool, the previous port. For many people it was much quicker and easier to do it that way! Barbara Rice Lafayette IN

If there is a answer would you put it to the list. -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth W. Knowlton [mailto:KnowltonEW@compuserve.com] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 2:32 PM To: CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cork] Carey dmurray@totalnetnh.net Last year a David Murray at the above address had a lot of information about Irish Careys. He was on the Cork list then--don't know if he has contacted you. Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com >Hello list, I am a new subscriber seeking information of my grandmother and her family. Her name was Nellie (Ellen) Carey , her father was David and she had a brother Patrick, there are other members of the family but I have yet to learn their names. Nellie was born about 1879 and Patrick1875. Nellie was married in London, England 1903. I have searched the British 1901 cencus but can not find a reasonable match to the family, so I imagine they came to England from Cork sometime between 1901-03. If anyone on the list has any connection or reference to this family I would be pleased to here from you. Thankyou, Neil < ==== CountyCork Mailing List ==== ** Visit the IrelandGenWeb at http://www.irelandgenweb.com **

dmurray@totalnetnh.net Last year a David Murray at the above address had a lot of information about Irish Careys. He was on the Cork list then--don't know if he has contacted you. Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com >Hello list, I am a new subscriber seeking information of my grandmother and her family. Her name was Nellie (Ellen) Carey , her father was David and she had a brother Patrick, there are other members of the family but I have yet to learn their names. Nellie was born about 1879 and Patrick1875. Nellie was married in London, England 1903. I have searched the British 1901 cencus but can not find a reasonable match to the family, so I imagine they came to England from Cork sometime between 1901-03. If anyone on the list has any connection or reference to this family I would be pleased to here from you. Thankyou, Neil <

Can anyone explain to me the connection between Cork and Liverpool? Actually between the "Great Emigration" and Liverpool? I found my great grandfather on the ship George Washington. (Port of Boston, 1859) Now I need to figure out how to trace him from Liverpool where he embarked on the George Washington for Boston to Ireland where he was born. How long did people typically live in Liverpool before they found the money and the ship? I know my family originated in Ireland. I know James Wall arrived in Boston in 1859. I'm not positive about which county he came from because family lore gives me three from which to choose. But facts show he arrived on a ship out of Liverpool, England. I would dearly appreciate a history lesson here. Can anyone direct me to a website that explains the Ireland-Liverpool connection? Thanks. This is a really good list. Alice She who really can't wait to find out why Alice was an important name in her family. Not to Mention Frederick L. Wall, a name that has German roots...in an Irish family.

Can someone refresh me on what is available and what is to be expected in the General Register's Office in Dublin. I may have an opportunity to visit there in the next couple of months. Tom Dalton, MA

Can someone refresh me on what is available and what is to be expected in the General Register's Office in Dublin. I may have an opportunity to visit there in the next couple of months. Tom Dalton, MA

Hi I'm the Great Great Granddaughter of Margaret Barry who was born in Queenstown (also know as "Cobh"), County Cork approx. 1849. I wish to find out more about her family. Her father Michael Barry Her mother Margaret Barry (nee Ahern) They emigrated to Australia settling in Brisbane, and to my knowledge having 10 children with the youngest being Ernest. Brisbane is where Margaret Barry married John Aspin on 13th May 1872. Unforunately this is all the information I have on Margaret and would greatly appreciated any information or advise on searching for more. Thanks PJ Porangahau, NZ Researching .. HYLAND, ALLCOCK, TARVER, CAIRNS WOOD, McPIKE, TYLER, ASPIN BROMWICH, NEIL, GRIFFIN, BARRY, AHERN, STONE, EVANS PENNELL, GRAHAM, BROWN, DUNN --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.393 / Virus Database: 223 - Release Date: 30/09/02

Seeking a Daniel Ford, occupation Farmer. Father of John Ford, who was born in Kinsale Co. Cork, c 1834. John Ford was found on the 1861 census for Stroud, Gloucestershire, a Tailor by Trade, living with his wife, Mary (Maiden name unknown) who was born in Queenstown, Co. Cork, c 1823, and daughter, Mary Ann FORD, b. Newport, Wales, in 1857. I would very much appreciate any help, if possible, on this Ford line from c 1800-1857. Thank you. Jane Joy Scotland.

Hello list, I am a new subscriber seeking information of my grandmother and her family. Her name was Nellie (Ellen) Carey , her father was David and she had a brother Patrick, there are other members of the family but I have yet to learn their names. Nellie was born about 1879 and Patrick1875. Nellie was married in London, England 1903. I have searched the British 1901 cencus but can not find a reasonable match to the family, so I imagine they came to England from Cork sometime between 1901-03. If anyone on the list has any connection or reference to this family I would be pleased to here from you. Thankyou, Neil

I'm looking for Maurice CUSICK in Cork 1820 onwards but don't know exactly where. Anyone have any knowledge of him or others? Margaret

Hello, I am new to your list. My great-great grandfather was Patrick Wall and my great-great grandmother was Mary, (Maiden name unknown as yet). Their son James came to the US (Boston) sometime before 1860. He was born in 1831 +/- one year. Family lore has told us that James came (by turn) from Cork, Tipperary and Galway. What advice can you give me to try to sort it all out? I would dearly love to find the roots. But Cork is huge and there are alot of Walls in Cork, Galway and Tipperary. Alice Patricia Wall Hawrilenko

It has been quite a while since I have been on this list, so I will relist what I know. Daniel OBRIEN was born 8 Jan 1839 in County Cork to JOHN OBRIEN and Margaret DONOVAN. The place is unknown, but Daniel's son was born in Ross Carberry, so he may have been born in that area too. Daniel married Mary Ellen BARNETT probably about 1860. Born in Ireland were Honora, 29 Sept 1861, Margaret 1864, Daniel Jr 1869, Nellie (probably Ellen) and at least one other sister. Honora and Margaret came to the US 1883. Nora married Thomas JAMESON from England and they became my husband's grandparents. They lived in Boston, MA. Margaret never married and was a housekeeper in RI. Daniel Jr came to the US in 1885, never married and died of TB in Boston in 1907. He was naturalized in 1894. Nellie married at least twice; once to a SHERIDAN and later to a FOLEY. She had a son named Charles SHERIDAN who often lived with the JAMESONs. Nellie lived mostly in RI. There was another sister who supposedly lived in NYC and married a man named BROWN. They had a daughter named Brenda who attended a family wedding in Boston about 1927. Brenda was living with the JAMESON family in the 1920 census and is listed as a cousin who was born in Scotland. Her father was born in Scotland and her mother in Ireland. There may have been other children that I don't know about. Daniel OBRIEN probably was widowed about 1890 as he came to the US about 1893 and lived near (and sometimes with) the JAMESONs. He was naturalized, but his naturalization papers give no information about dates or places. If this sounds like your family, I would love to hear from you. Thanks. Barbara Prior Jameson marksnana@juno.com

Looking for the ancestors of James Gibbons who I am told dropped the "fitz" from his name when he arrived in America. He married Jane Lawler who is buried in Decature, Macon co. Ill. They had 4 children: Mary b. 1863 in Maryland John Thomas b. 17 Oct. 1864 in Delaware m. Fannie Smith James William my ancestor b. 9 December 1866 in St. Louis m. Josephine Francis Smith Helena Elizabeth b. 7 June 1870 in Decatur Ill. married ______________ Quinn and move to Texas. According to my family James came from Cork Co., Ireland...but what town...I don't know. Jamie Gibbons jacwgg@aol.com

Have you checked the IGI on line? That is the most anyone will be able to check at a FHC without ordering the film for you. Or have I missed something, and all the registration indexes are now held by all the FHCs? Elizabeth KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com Message text written by INTERNET:CountyCork-L@rootsweb.com >If anybody is visiting a LDS Family History Centre could they please do a lookup for me for Margaret KELLEHER marrying Callaghan MCCARTHY in Kenmare, Co Kerry in 1865. Many thanks in advance. Regards Jim McCarthy<