Loreen, Sorry to be a pest, but I cannot find the ships manafest on the Ellis Island site. When it opens it only gives me a people search. I am not good at searching, could you guide me as to getting to the correct window. Ann McK. --- Loreen Wells <[email protected]> wrote: > Ann - I see you already got responses to this > question, but here is the > web site again: _http://www.ellisisland.org/_ You > just follow their > directions. You can view the ship manifest images on > line. Be sure to > check to see if there is a second page. Mine has a > second page that > includes religion and original language. You can > order a hard copy of > the manifest from that web site if you want. You can > also order photos > or drawings of the ship. > Loreen Wells > > Ann McKernan wrote: > > Could you possibly tell me how you obtained a copy > of > > a ships manifest from Ellis Island. I cannot seem > to > > find where I could order one. > > Ann McK. > > --- Loreen Wells <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097

Loreen, sorry to be a pest, but when I go to Ellis Island site, it does not give me the option to search for ships manafest, just people. I am at a loss as to where to look. Could you give me some direction, I am not the best at searching. Ann McK. --- Loreen Wells <[email protected]> wrote: > Ann - I see you already got responses to this > question, but here is the > web site again: _http://www.ellisisland.org/_ You > just follow their > directions. You can view the ship manifest images on > line. Be sure to > check to see if there is a second page. Mine has a > second page that > includes religion and original language. You can > order a hard copy of > the manifest from that web site if you want. You can > also order photos > or drawings of the ship. > Loreen Wells > > Ann McKernan wrote: > > Could you possibly tell me how you obtained a copy > of > > a ships manifest from Ellis Island. I cannot seem > to > > find where I could order one. > > Ann McK. > > --- Loreen Wells <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097

Hi Jean My Cotters originated from Brosna Co Kerry, just over the Cork County Border. My great grandfather, William Cotter (b1849) moved to Glanworth County Cork to teach in the local National School (primary school). He went on to become the headmaster in the school and raised his family there. The names Charles and Richard do not appear to be family names for us. My Cotter family were Catholic and those sound like they may be Protestant names. There certainly were some well off Cotter families in Cork that were not related to us. I do know some family went to America and my grandfather Nicholas Joseph Cotter (1885-1975) certainly corresponded regularily with family in Chicago but unfortunately I took little interest in that as I was still young and in school at that time. Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <countycork[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [COUNTYCORK] -Ellis Island Website > Jill, I, too, have COTTERS. Mine came from Ireland and went to Ontario, > Canada about 1850. The names I have for the males are Charles, Richard, and > William--also Timothy. Any connection? Jean > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.19/663 - Release Date: 01/02/2007 14:28 > >

Now I will ask about Ballynabrock. Can you tell me where this is, please? Does it still exist? Is it a town, region, parish, what? Is it in or near Mitchelstown? I don't know Irish political and/or geographic divisions. Loreen

Bill - Thank you for responding again to my question. When you say the Mallow center costs quite a bit more, is there a set fee and if so, how much? If not, how does this work, please. Loreen Wells

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Hi Ann Ships manifest can be accessed online at http://www.ellisisland.org It is a wonderful site enabling one to find ships maninfest of ancestors. I tracked my grandmothers two sisters and two brothers going to the USA. For her younger brother Timothy Quaid from Ballingary Co Limerick, it even provided the information that he was blue-eyed and five foot nine inches tall with fair hair. Jill Williams Researching COTTER Brosna Co Kerry and Glanworth Co Cork and Cork City QUAID Cloncagh Co Limerick and Cork City ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann McKernan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [COUNTYCORK] Ballynabrock/NORRIS > Could you possibly tell me how you obtained a copy of > a ships manifest from Ellis Island. I cannot seem to > find where I could order one. > Ann McK. >

Ann - I see you already got responses to this question, but here is the web site again: _http://www.ellisisland.org/_ You just follow their directions. You can view the ship manifest images on line. Be sure to check to see if there is a second page. Mine has a second page that includes religion and original language. You can order a hard copy of the manifest from that web site if you want. You can also order photos or drawings of the ship. Loreen Wells Ann McKernan wrote: > Could you possibly tell me how you obtained a copy of > a ships manifest from Ellis Island. I cannot seem to > find where I could order one. > Ann McK. > --- Loreen Wells <[email protected]> wrote: > >

Ann - I see you already got responses to this question, but here is the web site again: _http://www.ellisisland.org/_ You can view the ship manifest images on line. Be sure to check to see if there is a second page. Sometimes there are. You can order a hard copy of the manifest from that web site if you want. You can also order photos or drawings of the ship. You can search the site to find your person also. Loreen Wells Ann McKernan wrote: > Could you possibly tell me how you obtained a copy of > a ships manifest from Ellis Island. I cannot seem to > find where I could order one. > Ann McK. > --- Loreen Wells <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Thank you. This is the Ellis Island information I >> already have. Actually >> I got a copy of the ship's manifest from the Ellis >> Island people. That >> entry further says she is from Mitchelstown. I don't >> know whether she is >> my grandmother or not, although I suspect she is. I >> guess one of my >> questions is whether someone born in Ballynabrock >> might logically later >> reside in Mitchelstown. I don't know if the >> Ballynabrock birth is her >> for certain either. Just looking for ideas how to >> connect these >> different pieces of information together to see if >> they fit. Or not. >> Loreen Wells >> >> Edgar (Russ) Bralley wrote: >> >>> A Kate Norris, age 23, Irish servant, entered >>> >> through Ellis Island onboard >> >>> the Ship Cymric, having sailed from the port of >>> >> Queenstown, Cobh, (Ireland) >> >>> Ireland on 13 April 1899. She had $15 in her >>> >> pocket and was en route to >> >>> visit her cousin, unnamed, who lived at 12 East >>> >> 9th Street in New York City. >> >>> She was in good health and could read and write. >>> >> Might this be your lady? >> >>> If so, I found this data on the Ellis Island >>> >> website, which his free and >> >>> searchable. >>> >>> Russ Bralley >>> Visiting in the shadow of the Great Smoky >>> >> Mountains, Tennessee >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> >> Of Loreen Wells >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:48 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [COUNTYCORK] Ballynabrock/NORRIS >>> >>> I hope to get ideas how to look for my >>> >> grandmother. She was Kate >> >>> (Catherine) NORRIS, b. in Cork and immigrated to >>> >> the USA in 1899. She >> >>> told us she was born 14 Feb 1880. She did not want >>> >> to talk about her >> >>> past, her life in Ireland, or why she came here. >>> >> She only said that her >> >>> sister had already gone to Australia and there was >>> >> nothing left in >> >>> Ireland for her. Her father served in the Crimean >>> >> War. She talked about >> >>> seeing the Statue of Liberty on her arrival here. >>> >> She met and married my >> >>> grandfather in 1906. They then went to Alaska for >>> >> the gold rush. They >> >>> are well documented after that. All her US census >>> >> records say she >> >>> immigrated in 1899. The 1910 Alaska census lists >>> >> her birth date as 1878. >> >>> I believe that information must have come directly >>> >> from her, given her >> >>> living conditions that year. In the 1920 Alaska >>> >> census, she gave the >> >>> 1880 date. She was Catholic. >>> >>> I have never found anything that looks like her in >>> >> Boston, but city >> >>> directories that era don't list household help. I >>> >> once found a Patrick >> >>> NORRIS listed as a Crimean casualty. >>> >>> My cousin looked in the Dublin archives for a >>> >> birth record, 10 years of >> >>> either side of that 1880 date, all variations of >>> >> Kate/Catherine. He did >> >>> not find any record that matched. He found a >>> >> series of possibilities. We >> >>> settled on one as the most likely. It is Catherine >>> >> NORRIS, b. 24 Oct. >> >>> 1876 in Ballynabrock. Father: Patrick NORRIS, >>> >> farmer; mother's former >> >>> name: Anne BAILY. >>> >>> We found a Catherine NORRIS in Ellis Island >>> >> records dated 1899. That >> >>> record says she is from Mitchelstown and going to >>> >> join her cousin at a >> >>> NYC address. That address was the home of a >>> >> wealthy Irish widow woman. >> >>> In the 1900 NYC census, what looks like that >>> >> Catherine is working at the >> >>> House of Calvary as a maid. HofC was a hospice for >>> >> terminally ill and >> >>> destitute women. It was started by a group of >>> >> wealthy Irish widows in >> >>> NYC. The Kate who is in Ellis Island records came >>> >> immediately before >> >>> that charity opened its doors. I have come to >>> >> believe this woman is >> >>> likely our grandmother, possibly recruited in >>> >> Ireland, and another >> >>> servant in the widow's household, Nellie CONDON, >>> >> to be the cousin. The >> >>> 1900 NYC census lists Nellie as b. Ireland in >>> >> 1877. >> >>> I will likely never get to Ireland, but my cousin >>> >> travels there on >> >>> business so he could look if we had ideas where. >>> >> If there are flaws in >> >>> my reasoning, please advise. >>> >>> Loreen Wells >>> Salem, OR USA >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >>> >> to >> >>> [email protected] with the word >>> >> 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! 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Jill, I, too, have COTTERS. Mine came from Ireland and went to Ontario, Canada about 1850. The names I have for the males are Charles, Richard, and William--also Timothy. Any connection? Jean

Loreen, The baptismal records would also show siblings born in the Mitchelstown area , and the name of the church and or townland, up through 1899 and the same microfilm should show the marriage of the parents, if married in that area. The Mallow Heritage Center could do the research for you but it does cost quite a bit more than researching at the National Library. Bill Fahy WWW.WESTCORKGENEALOGY.COM

Could you possibly tell me how you obtained a copy of a ships manifest from Ellis Island. I cannot seem to find where I could order one. Ann McK. --- Loreen Wells <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you. This is the Ellis Island information I > already have. Actually > I got a copy of the ship's manifest from the Ellis > Island people. That > entry further says she is from Mitchelstown. I don't > know whether she is > my grandmother or not, although I suspect she is. I > guess one of my > questions is whether someone born in Ballynabrock > might logically later > reside in Mitchelstown. I don't know if the > Ballynabrock birth is her > for certain either. Just looking for ideas how to > connect these > different pieces of information together to see if > they fit. Or not. > Loreen Wells > > Edgar (Russ) Bralley wrote: > > A Kate Norris, age 23, Irish servant, entered > through Ellis Island onboard > > the Ship Cymric, having sailed from the port of > Queenstown, Cobh, (Ireland) > > Ireland on 13 April 1899. She had $15 in her > pocket and was en route to > > visit her cousin, unnamed, who lived at 12 East > 9th Street in New York City. > > She was in good health and could read and write. > Might this be your lady? > > If so, I found this data on the Ellis Island > website, which his free and > > searchable. > > > > Russ Bralley > > Visiting in the shadow of the Great Smoky > Mountains, Tennessee > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Loreen Wells > > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:48 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [COUNTYCORK] Ballynabrock/NORRIS > > > > I hope to get ideas how to look for my > grandmother. She was Kate > > (Catherine) NORRIS, b. in Cork and immigrated to > the USA in 1899. She > > told us she was born 14 Feb 1880. She did not want > to talk about her > > past, her life in Ireland, or why she came here. > She only said that her > > sister had already gone to Australia and there was > nothing left in > > Ireland for her. Her father served in the Crimean > War. She talked about > > seeing the Statue of Liberty on her arrival here. > She met and married my > > grandfather in 1906. They then went to Alaska for > the gold rush. They > > are well documented after that. All her US census > records say she > > immigrated in 1899. The 1910 Alaska census lists > her birth date as 1878. > > I believe that information must have come directly > from her, given her > > living conditions that year. In the 1920 Alaska > census, she gave the > > 1880 date. She was Catholic. > > > > I have never found anything that looks like her in > Boston, but city > > directories that era don't list household help. I > once found a Patrick > > NORRIS listed as a Crimean casualty. > > > > My cousin looked in the Dublin archives for a > birth record, 10 years of > > either side of that 1880 date, all variations of > Kate/Catherine. He did > > not find any record that matched. He found a > series of possibilities. We > > settled on one as the most likely. It is Catherine > NORRIS, b. 24 Oct. > > 1876 in Ballynabrock. Father: Patrick NORRIS, > farmer; mother's former > > name: Anne BAILY. > > > > We found a Catherine NORRIS in Ellis Island > records dated 1899. That > > record says she is from Mitchelstown and going to > join her cousin at a > > NYC address. That address was the home of a > wealthy Irish widow woman. > > In the 1900 NYC census, what looks like that > Catherine is working at the > > House of Calvary as a maid. HofC was a hospice for > terminally ill and > > destitute women. It was started by a group of > wealthy Irish widows in > > NYC. The Kate who is in Ellis Island records came > immediately before > > that charity opened its doors. I have come to > believe this woman is > > likely our grandmother, possibly recruited in > Ireland, and another > > servant in the widow's household, Nellie CONDON, > to be the cousin. The > > 1900 NYC census lists Nellie as b. Ireland in > 1877. > > > > I will likely never get to Ireland, but my cousin > travels there on > > business so he could look if we had ideas where. > If there are flaws in > > my reasoning, please advise. > > > > Loreen Wells > > Salem, OR USA > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/

Bill, I appreciate your response. I think the same as you and partly for the reason you cite. And if she is the same woman I found in the NYC census in 1900, that record gives a different birth date yet. I have a list of 16 Kate/etc. Norris births from the Dublin archives for that approximate era. None of them matches any of the dates in the US records I have. I have found other immigration records for that name who don't match the immigration date our Kate gave. She was very consistent about when she came, so I am inclined to believe we can trust that date. Thank you for your referral to the baptism records. I'll give your information to my cousin for his next trip. Do you have any suggestions how to find out more about the family listed in that birth record? For instance, if I get the baptism record would that tell me in which church the baptism took place? Would that church then maybe have more family records? I think if I could find the other children born to the same parents and there are no other girls, for instance, I can eliminate that birth. Or, if I could find other daughters for one of whom I can find emigration to Australia, that might help me fit it all together. I thought the Australia reference might help me, also the Crimean War. If I could find both in one family that also includes Kate, that find would certainly be persuasive. Loreen Wells Salem Oregon USA William P. Fahy wrote: > Loreen, > I found a Katie Norris, arriving June 1, 1894 from Queenstown on the > Brittania, aged 18, no address in Ireland, a servant, going to Chicago. > My belief is that the Mitchelstown Kate Norris is your ancestor based on one > fact from the actual manifesto of the ship Cymrie out of Queenstown > on April 13, 1899. Based on your report that she could not decide what her > birthday was, it seems significant that she first reported her age on the > manifesto as 21 and then changed it to 23. Her actual birth was probably > 1878. You may actually be able to crosscheck her birthdate by checking > baptisms > for Mitchelstown ,on microfilm #POS4993, available, to view for free, at the > National Library, Kildare Street, Dublin. Website is www.nli.ie, which gives > you more detail > concerning opening times etc. > > Bill Fahy > www.westcorkgenealogy.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you for this response. This is the Ellis Island information I already have. Actually I got a copy of the ship's manifest from the Ellis Island people. That entry further says she is from Mitchelstown. I don't know whether she is my grandmother or not, although I suspect she is. I guess one of my questions is whether someone born in Ballynabrock might logically later reside in Mitchelstown. I don't know if the Ballynabrock birth is her for certain either. Just looking for ideas how to connect these different pieces of information together to see if they fit. Or not. Loreen Wells Salem Oregon USA Edgar (Russ) Bralley wrote: > A Kate Norris, age 23, Irish servant, entered through Ellis Island onboard > the Ship Cymric, having sailed from the port of Queenstown, Cobh, (Ireland) > Ireland on 13 April 1899. She had $15 in her pocket and was en route to > visit her cousin, unnamed, who lived at 12 East 9th Street in New York City. > She was in good health and could read and write. Might this be your lady? > If so, I found this data on the Ellis Island website, which his free and > searchable. > > Russ Bralley > Visiting in the shadow of the Great Smoky Mountains, Tennessee > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Loreen Wells > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:48 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [COUNTYCORK] Ballynabrock/NORRIS > > I hope to get ideas how to look for my grandmother. She was Kate > (Catherine) NORRIS, b. in Cork and immigrated to the USA in 1899. She > told us she was born 14 Feb 1880. She did not want to talk about her > past, her life in Ireland, or why she came here. She only said that her > sister had already gone to Australia and there was nothing left in > Ireland for her. Her father served in the Crimean War. She talked about > seeing the Statue of Liberty on her arrival here. She met and married my > grandfather in 1906. They then went to Alaska for the gold rush. They > are well documented after that. All her US census records say she > immigrated in 1899. The 1910 Alaska census lists her birth date as 1878. > I believe that information must have come directly from her, given her > living conditions that year. In the 1920 Alaska census, she gave the > 1880 date. She was Catholic. > > I have never found anything that looks like her in Boston, but city > directories that era don't list household help. I once found a Patrick > NORRIS listed as a Crimean casualty. > > My cousin looked in the Dublin archives for a birth record, 10 years of > either side of that 1880 date, all variations of Kate/Catherine. He did > not find any record that matched. He found a series of possibilities. We > settled on one as the most likely. It is Catherine NORRIS, b. 24 Oct. > 1876 in Ballynabrock. Father: Patrick NORRIS, farmer; mother's former > name: Anne BAILY. > > We found a Catherine NORRIS in Ellis Island records dated 1899. That > record says she is from Mitchelstown and going to join her cousin at a > NYC address. That address was the home of a wealthy Irish widow woman. > In the 1900 NYC census, what looks like that Catherine is working at the > House of Calvary as a maid. HofC was a hospice for terminally ill and > destitute women. It was started by a group of wealthy Irish widows in > NYC. The Kate who is in Ellis Island records came immediately before > that charity opened its doors. I have come to believe this woman is > likely our grandmother, possibly recruited in Ireland, and another > servant in the widow's household, Nellie CONDON, to be the cousin. The > 1900 NYC census lists Nellie as b. Ireland in 1877. > > I will likely never get to Ireland, but my cousin travels there on > business so he could look if we had ideas where. If there are flaws in > my reasoning, please advise. > > Loreen Wells > Salem, OR USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you. This is the Ellis Island information I already have. Actually I got a copy of the ship's manifest from the Ellis Island people. That entry further says she is from Mitchelstown. I don't know whether she is my grandmother or not, although I suspect she is. I guess one of my questions is whether someone born in Ballynabrock might logically later reside in Mitchelstown. I don't know if the Ballynabrock birth is her for certain either. Just looking for ideas how to connect these different pieces of information together to see if they fit. Or not. Loreen Wells Edgar (Russ) Bralley wrote: > A Kate Norris, age 23, Irish servant, entered through Ellis Island onboard > the Ship Cymric, having sailed from the port of Queenstown, Cobh, (Ireland) > Ireland on 13 April 1899. She had $15 in her pocket and was en route to > visit her cousin, unnamed, who lived at 12 East 9th Street in New York City. > She was in good health and could read and write. Might this be your lady? > If so, I found this data on the Ellis Island website, which his free and > searchable. > > Russ Bralley > Visiting in the shadow of the Great Smoky Mountains, Tennessee > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Loreen Wells > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:48 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [COUNTYCORK] Ballynabrock/NORRIS > > I hope to get ideas how to look for my grandmother. She was Kate > (Catherine) NORRIS, b. in Cork and immigrated to the USA in 1899. She > told us she was born 14 Feb 1880. She did not want to talk about her > past, her life in Ireland, or why she came here. She only said that her > sister had already gone to Australia and there was nothing left in > Ireland for her. Her father served in the Crimean War. She talked about > seeing the Statue of Liberty on her arrival here. She met and married my > grandfather in 1906. They then went to Alaska for the gold rush. They > are well documented after that. All her US census records say she > immigrated in 1899. The 1910 Alaska census lists her birth date as 1878. > I believe that information must have come directly from her, given her > living conditions that year. In the 1920 Alaska census, she gave the > 1880 date. She was Catholic. > > I have never found anything that looks like her in Boston, but city > directories that era don't list household help. I once found a Patrick > NORRIS listed as a Crimean casualty. > > My cousin looked in the Dublin archives for a birth record, 10 years of > either side of that 1880 date, all variations of Kate/Catherine. He did > not find any record that matched. He found a series of possibilities. We > settled on one as the most likely. It is Catherine NORRIS, b. 24 Oct. > 1876 in Ballynabrock. Father: Patrick NORRIS, farmer; mother's former > name: Anne BAILY. > > We found a Catherine NORRIS in Ellis Island records dated 1899. That > record says she is from Mitchelstown and going to join her cousin at a > NYC address. That address was the home of a wealthy Irish widow woman. > In the 1900 NYC census, what looks like that Catherine is working at the > House of Calvary as a maid. HofC was a hospice for terminally ill and > destitute women. It was started by a group of wealthy Irish widows in > NYC. The Kate who is in Ellis Island records came immediately before > that charity opened its doors. I have come to believe this woman is > likely our grandmother, possibly recruited in Ireland, and another > servant in the widow's household, Nellie CONDON, to be the cousin. The > 1900 NYC census lists Nellie as b. Ireland in 1877. > > I will likely never get to Ireland, but my cousin travels there on > business so he could look if we had ideas where. If there are flaws in > my reasoning, please advise. > > Loreen Wells > Salem, OR USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Sian, Kildorrery is likely the place you're looking for. There is a Kilderrig but no Kilderry in Co. Cork. Kildorrery is in the Diocese of Cloyne, which means its records are at the Mallow Heritage Centre <http://www.mallowheritagecentre.com/>. The Kildorrery records include Baptisms from 1826 and Marriage from 1803. Good luck, David Collins Hudson, MA, USA [email protected] wrote: Today's Topics 2. Hannan/Meade (sian jannetta) > Subject: > [COUNTYCORK] Hannan/Meade > From: > "sian jannetta" <[email protected]> > Date: > Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:27:26 -0000 > To: > <[email protected]> > > >Hi I wonder if anyone can help, me my G Grandmother Mary Hannan was born 1854 merthyr tydfil south wales as her birth wasn't registered we sent for her brothers birth certificate, which gave their parents as William Hannan b: abt 1831 and Abigail Made b: abt 1825 which I am assuming must be Meade. > >On the two out of the four census I have William and Abigail are down as comimg from Kilderry Cork but the only place that sounds similar is Kildorrery. They are on the 1861 census in Merthyr but not the 1851. As their daughter Mary was 7 on the 1861 it seems that they came to Wales between before 1851 and 1854 > >Please could someone advise me about where they might have came from and also how do I go about finding their marriage, also how do I order a Marriage certificate > >Sorry to ask so much but any help or advice would be appreciated > >All the best Sian from S Wales > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Folks, I know over the years many people called to Canon Bertie troy at the Parochial House in Midleton tracing their roots. Canon Bertie has passed away & was buried yesterday in Midleton. He will be a huge loss to everybody interested in Genealogy. Regards Noel ------------------------------------ OKPromotions Noel O'Keeffe [email protected] Kilva, Midleton, Co. Cork. Ireland tel: 021 4652666 fax: 021 4652800 mobile: +353 872459988 ------------------------------------

I wonder if you could kindly help me find further information re my 2 xGtgrandfather John Fitzgerald, who was born Ballydahene Mallow c1820 and married Mary Corbett at St Mary's RC church Mallow, in 1850.. John and Mary's father's John Fitzgerald and Patrick Corbett were town commissioners in Mallow c1846 and are mentioned in some of the local newspapers of that time, one article actually describing Patrick Corbett's home on the eve of a celebration. I engaged a local historian to carry out some research for me but it took month's for him to come back with very little, I am hoping to visit Mallow this spring but would love to be armed with more information that could be followed up with any Fitzgerald's I may find still living in Mallow. John and Mary had several children, inc Connor (known as Cornelius) John, Mary, Johanna , Abigail (known as Deborah, Julia and Hannah. The family were living at Fair Street Mallow c1850, John's father leased many properties from C>J Norrey's in Mallow and lackanaloo, as did Patrick Corbett. Walter Fitzgerald was a sponsor at one of the children's baptism's at St Mary's. I feel with so much information this family must be well documented somewhere. The family, but not all the children arrived in Manchester UK c1877. Any help gratefully appreciated. Kind regards June ( Fitzgerald)

Hi Barbara, I just received vol 11 of A. Casey's books on microfilm. It's very difficult to read but I have use of it for 5 weeks. Tell me what names, townland and page # you're interested in and with a stronger magnifying glass to help me I'll start searching again. Some pages have text from top to bottom & then side to side with different size print. Very interesting. Kay Kay Corcoran Sunny Bradenton, FL [email protected]   

Loreen, I found a Katie Norris, arriving June 1, 1894 from Queenstown on the Brittania, aged 18, no address in Ireland, a servant, going to Chicago. My belief is that the Mitchelstown Kate Norris is your ancestor based on one fact from the actual manifesto of the ship Cymrie out of Queenstown on April 13, 1899. Based on your report that she could not decide what her birthday was, it seems significant that she first reported her age on the manifesto as 21 and then changed it to 23. Her actual birth was probably 1878. You may actually be able to crosscheck her birthdate by checking baptisms for Mitchelstown ,on microfilm #POS4993, available, to view for free, at the National Library, Kildare Street, Dublin. Website is www.nli.ie, which gives you more detail concerning opening times etc. Bill Fahy www.westcorkgenealogy.com