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    1. Re: [COUNTYCORK] COUNTYCORK Digest, Vol 2, Issue 63
    2. David Collins
    3. Jerry, The number in the first column is a plot number marked on a particular ordnance survey map used by the government valuator. The number of the ordnance survey map used is given at the head of the section for each townland/parish. Hope this helps. David Collins Hudson, MA, USA [email protected] wrote: >Today's Topics: > > 1. Ordnance Survey Map (Jerry Walsh) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > [COUNTYCORK] Ordnance Survey Map > From: > "Jerry Walsh" <[email protected]> > Date: > Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:47:59 -0800 > To: > <[email protected]> > > >I hope some one can help. > >I need to know how to read the Ordnance Survey Map from the information on >the Griffith's Valuation Record. >What information is on the Griffith's Valuation Record to pin point where it >is on the Ordnance Survey Map. > >Thank You >Jerry Walsh > > >

    03/04/2007 05:53:10
    1. Re: [COUNTYCORK] Ordnance Survey Map
    2. Dennis Ahern
    3. "Jerry Walsh" <[email protected]> asked: >I need to know how to read the Ordnance Survey Map from the information >on the Griffith's Valuation Record. >What information is on the Griffith's Valuation Record to pin point where >it is on the Ordnance Survey Map. The first column on the Griffith's Valuation tables is the map reference. These are letters and numbers that correspond to numbers and letters appearing on the Valuation maps. The appropriate individual map is referenced as an O.S. number underneath the townland name in the second column, and then underneath it the names of occupiers of each property. See http://www.iol.ie/~kevelighan/Scans/Griffith%20Valuation%201858.jpg for an example of a page from Griffith's Valuation. These property numbers do not appear on the Ordnance Survey maps. They are only on the maps at the Valuation Office in Dublin. You can compare the Valuation maps with the modern Ordnance Survey maps to identify where a property was at the time of Griffith's Valuation. You do this by looking at the landscape, roads, rivers, and other geographical features on the old and new maps. See http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/tipp/OS68map.jpeg for an example of a Valuation Office map. See: http://www.valoff.ie/index.htm Valuation Office Ireland http://www.osi.ie/ Irish Ordnance Survey Office http://www.osni.gov.uk/ Ordnance Survey of Northern Ireland

    03/04/2007 01:35:34
    1. [COUNTYCORK] Ordnance Survey Map
    2. Jerry Walsh
    3. I hope some one can help. I need to know how to read the Ordnance Survey Map from the information on the Griffith's Valuation Record. What information is on the Griffith's Valuation Record to pin point where it is on the Ordnance Survey Map. Thank You Jerry Walsh

    03/03/2007 01:47:59
    1. [COUNTYCORK] Daniel Deasy b. 1833
    2. PRISCILLA HAINES
    3. I have a Daniel Deasy suppose to be born 1833 in Henfield, Cork, Ireland. This is from the 1861 British census where he was listed as in the British Navy as a sail maker. He may be my ggrandfather. If he is, he has a daughter Catherine born in Ahidealake. Are the two areas near each other? Also if there is anyone living in that area who could check the two Daniel Deasy's living in Cork and listed in the telephone book on line, and see if either lives near these two places, I would appreciate it. About 20 years ago I met a Daniel Deasy living north of Clonakilty when I was over there with three of my children. I would like to renew that acquaintance as I believe now we are related. Thanks Priscilla -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/703 - Release Date: 26/Feb/07

    02/26/2007 06:15:55
    1. [COUNTYCORK] More encumbered estates added
    2. Christina Hunt
    3. Since I wrote about adding Encumbered Estate Sales to the Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives. We have added the following: Encumbered Estate property of Hugh LAWLOR - St Finbar's, City of Cork Feb 2007 Estate of Daniel Bartholomew FOLEY (Sale 1858) - Lot 1 South Liberties, City of Cork. Estate of Daniel Bartholomew FOLEY (Sale 1858) - Lot 2 Estate of Daniel Bartholomew FOLEY (Sale 1858) - Lot 3 Evergreen Road, Borough of Cork Estate of Daniel Bartholomew FOLEY (Sale 1858) - Lots 4-10 Estate of Daniel Bartholomew FOLEY - Killeenagh/Skawbeg Lots 12-22 Estate of Edward ROBINSON - 10 Houses, Belgrave-Place Estate of George Alleyne ROGERS, The Theatre Royal, George's St., City of Cork Estate of Richard BEAMISH, Academy Street, Paul St., French Church St., City of Cork Estate of Thomas Hillgrove MAYBURY (Church Yard Ln. Parish of St. Mary's Shandon) Estate of William GOING, Owner & Petitioner Estate of William Patrick Lewis HICKIE.., Lot 1 & 2 To view Click on CORK and then LAND http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/ You can also use the drop down feature of the search engine to search *just* Cork. If you are a good typist and would like to help get these online more quickly, drop me a line off list. We have many more ready to be transcribed. email [email protected] Thanks, Chris

    02/25/2007 06:45:08
    1. [COUNTYCORK] Coffey Family.
    2. Shirley Cobie
    3. Hi, l'm doing my family. l was wondering if some one can help me.l'm looking for the family of Denis and Catherine Coffey(Creamer) from Co Cork.Where they were married.l aready have one son Micheal P Coffey born 16/9/1838, Joanna Coffey born 6/3/1844. all born in St Finbarr's parish or that area. l do not know if the son or daughter ever got married or not. All l know he was in the Army, but that was all.My mother was a Coffey, and that was her line, but those days you were not intrested in going back in history like it is now. lf some kind person put me in some direction l'll be most grateful. Thank you. Shirley Ireland.

    02/24/2007 10:09:22
    1. Re: [COUNTYCORK] Orphanages circa 1920
    2. cherie richards
    3. Thank you Bill. I am familiar with the Workhouse site (what a great job he has done!) and have visited the Cork Archives to view the records there. Extant records for the Cork Union Workhouse do not address this issue as far as I have been able to discover. If anyone else knows differently or knows of another possible source, I welcome your thoughts. Cherie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Hazelton Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 10:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COUNTYCORK] Orphanages circa 1920 Cherie While I can not answer your specific question, I would recommend that you spend some time on Peter Higginbotham's website "The Workhouse". It is an excellent resource for anyone wanting to know about the history and life in a workhouse: -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 3:33 PM

    02/23/2007 05:17:22
    1. [COUNTYCORK] UCC Archived Journals
    2. cherie richards
    3. UCC's Northside Folklore Project journals can be viewed here: http://www.ucc.ie/research/nfp/publications.htm A great idea. Let's hope it grows and grows. Cherie -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 3:33 PM

    02/23/2007 05:13:55
    1. [COUNTYCORK] COONEY Family
    2. Hi, I'm new to the list. Wondering if any one has information on the James COONEY family. James C. COONEY born 1854/1856, immigrated approximately 1865. Married Cordelia SANDERS 24 Feb 1878 in Lowell Indiana. Died 23 May 1952, Indiana. His parents were James T. and Elizabeth COONEY which shows on his death certificate. Family legend says he came from Cork county, however, I have not been able to find any information to prove that. If anyone has any information I would appreciate hearing from them. Thanks. Susan Illinois USA

    02/23/2007 02:08:33
    1. [COUNTYCORK] Re Family names in Cork
    2. Lorraine
    3. Hi Am new to list. I noticed a lot of enquiries re. family names on this list............. See website www.radleysofcork.bigpondhosting.com Have Becher/Beecher/Baldwin/Radley/Leader/Jervois /Armstrong Crooke/Lindsay/Besnard. all prominent in Cork. McCarthys too. Lorraine.

    02/23/2007 02:44:33
    1. Re: [COUNTYCORK] Orphanages circa 1920
    2. Bill Hazelton
    3. Cherie While I can not answer your specific question, I would recommend that you spend some time on Peter Higginbotham's website "The Workhouse". It is an excellent resource for anyone wanting to know about the history and life in a workhouse: www.workhouses.org.uk Additionally here are 2 workhouses on his site that may be relevant: http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Cork/Cork.shtml http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Midleton/Midleton.shtml According to Peter, records are found; Cork City and County Archives (Formerly Cork Archives Institute) http://www.corkcity.ie/ourservices/rac/archives/ "...Holdings include: Guardians' Minutes (1839-1924); Indoor Relief Registers (1840-1920); Indexes to Indoor Relief Registers (1853-1921); Indoor Relief List (1924-1925); Record of Death Books (1853-1931); Register of Deaths (1884-86); etc." Bill Hazelton Memphis -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of cherie richards Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [COUNTYCORK] Orphanages circa 1920 Hi, Can anyone point me in the right direction? I am seeking information on orphanages in Cork City and Cobh in 1920. I would also like to know if the Union Workhouse/Hospital may have functioned as an orphanage at that time. Any and all leads, comments, ideas appreciated. Cherie -

    02/23/2007 02:39:37
    1. [COUNTYCORK] Geary
    2. The Sullivans
    3. The only Geary that left Ireland for the US was Ellen Geary, daughter of Owen Geary and Mary/May Fleming of Kildorrery, Cork. She came to Mass and married Richard Fraher of Kilclooney [ a tiny townland next to Kildorrery]. I have been unable to find a marriage certificate for them in Mass., either Church or civil but by 1870 they were married and had children. I don't have the records in front of me at the moment but will gladly check them for anyone interested. Eileen Fraher Sullivan Fraher, Geary, Brassil, Fleming [email protected]

    02/23/2007 01:28:30
    1. Re: [COUNTYCORK] [CONNER] CONNER
    2. I don't have any info of my james conner living in the commonwealth of Kentucky........the only KY connections he has is that he fought a battle in Perrysville, KY with the Indiana Regiment in the Civil War -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [COUNTYCORK] [CONNER] CONNER KY Clover:::( Don't take it wrong..just being silly) Do you have any CONNERs in KY?? I am looking for a family there....my g-g-grandfather Jacob Conner was born in Nelson Co. KYand moved to IL.---Thanks for any info. LouiseBollman ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:58 AM Subject: [CONNER] CONNER > have a James Conner b. 6/13/1826, born in ireland that married a Ellen > Mulvihill b. 4/7/1846 in ireland, ...they married in hoboken, NJ and > moved > to > southern indiana, warrick & pike counties....they had a daughter > elizabeth > born > in new york, ny.......they had a son born john thomas conner b. > 9/16/1869., > > hoboken, NJ.........James purchased land and farmed in warrick county in > 1860.........does any of this sound familar??. > > Thanks in advance, > > Monica McCarthy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

    02/22/2007 01:54:36
    1. Re: [COUNTYCORK] Geary in Gortnaskehy
    2. Dennis Ahern
    3. <[email protected]> said: >I have an Owen Geary in Kildorrery. Originally I looked at the Gearys >from Gortnaskehy. To date I have not been able to get before Owen Geary >of Kildorrery, listed in Griffiths. Volume II of the Search for Missing Friends series published by The New England Historic and Genealogical Society has the following from "The Pilot" of 22 May 1852: Of Maurice & David Geary, children of David Geary, natives of parish Donerail, co. Cork. When last heard from they were in New Hampshire. Any information respecting them will be thankfully received by their father, David Geary, care of John Geary, No. 18 High street, Salem, Ms. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Mallow Archaeological & Historical Society Acton, Massachusetts | Mr. John Caplice, Dromore, Mallow, Co. Cork [email protected] | http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmahs/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    02/22/2007 12:35:52
    1. Re: [COUNTYCORK] Geary in Gortnaskehy
    2. I have a John Geary. All I know is that he came to West Haven, CT His daughter (E)llen m. John O'Shea in New Haven, CT and they moved to Seymour, CT and they raised 18 children. Any connection here with Geary, O'Shea and Frawley? Saundra Cary, North Carolina <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

    02/22/2007 12:07:06
    1. Re: [COUNTYCORK] St. John???
    2. Cathy Connelly
    3. Does anyone know the most likely port of entry into Canada for the 1840s??? I am stymied trying to figure this one out! I know my James CONNELLY had a child in Canada about 1846, but no idea of where! Thanks, Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Campbell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [COUNTYCORK] Courtmacsherry - Harley (Hurley) Hello Heather, Your ancester probably came through my home town of Saint John. It is difficult to trace ones Irish ancestry because most genealogical records for the 98% of Roman Catholic families in Ireland only go back to the early 1800s. The first Roman Catholic records were begun during the time leading up to the Catholic Emancipation Act of 1820. It is rarely that one can trace a Roman Catholic family back through the years before 1800. It is because there were no government, religious, or other authority that maintained any records of the total Roman Catholic population of Ireland. The civil registration of births and deaths in Ireland only started in 1864. There are a few census substitutes however that may be of help to some families. The Mallow Heritage Centre is the only research centre for County Cork offering a service. Their computer records cover only the R.C. Diocese of Cloyne, i.e. 46 parishes out of a total of about 120 parishes in Co. Cork. They record baptisms and marriages. There is a "Cork Ancestral Project." It is digitizing the parish records for the Diocese of Cork, which includes Cork City. It will not be offering a research service until it is completed. Check the http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor web site for the distribution of the Harley name in various locations in Ireland. It can be a problem to trace some of the common family names in Counties Cork and Kerry such as McCARTHY, O'DONOVAN, O'SULLIVAN and others. Those surnames often have secondary names called tags, or nicknames attached to them. They identified specific family groupings. They were useful, when many families with the same surname lived in a small area or within a single parish. Some of the following information is on various web sites. www.censusfinder.com/ireland.htm has 62 links to Cork & County Cork census, directories, valuations and records. www.failteromhat.com www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/census_returns.htrm and www.sci.net.au/userpages/mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm also have some of the information 1901 census returns of Ireland Location: Public Record Office, Dublin 1864 to date Civil records of birth, marriage and death Location: Office of the Registrar General, Customs House, Dublin 1848/49 The William Smith O'Brien Petition is a census substitute of over 80,000 names and places. This is available on Irish Origins at http://www.irishorigins.com 1802 to date Roman Catholic Church registers Data: Baptism Child's name; parent's and sponsor's names; mother's maiden name; address;& date Wedding: names of bride, groom & witnesses & date Location: Parish Church Pre 1880 Church registers records of baptism and marriage on microfilm Location; National Library, Dublin Parish Register Extracts by Grove White (Mainly for Co. Cork) Location: Public Records Office, Dublin 1848-64 Primary Valuation of Tenements by Sir Richard Griffith Data: occupant's names, address, acreage & value Locations: Dublin Genealogical Office; Public Records Office & National Library of Ireland 1846 Directory of Ireland by Slater Names residents of small towns Location; National Library of Ireland 1823-37 Tithe Composition Applotment Book Data: Names of tenants with land by parish except townlands and cities. Gives location, acreage, valuation & tithe. County Index for Cork Data Surnames & locations Location: Public Records Office Dublin 1787 Cork & Southern Towns Directory Location: National Library of Ireland, Dublin 1766 Religious Census for Cork Diocese by Tennison Groves Location: Public Records Office Dublin 1761 Militia Lists - County Cork M608 Location: Genealogical Office Dublin 1739-32 Land Index Volumes for County Cork Vol.s # 5,8,9,12,26 &100 Location: Registry of Deeds Dublin 1708-87 Irish Manuscripts Commission, Abstracts of Wills ed. by P.B. Eustace Location: Registry of Deeds, Dublin 1663 Hearth Money Rolls Data: Names, number of hearths & amount of tax. Listed by county; barony; parish; & townland 1660-1661? A "Census of Ireland" of uncertain origin was discovered by W.H. Hardinge in 1864. Data: by county, barony, parish, and townland. Each townland lists the number of people (usually divided into "English, Scots" and "Irish") and the names of "Tituladoes" (principal people of standing). For each barony the principal Irish surnames are listed and the number of times each appeared in the returns. An appendix concerns the Poll-Money Ordinances of 1660 and 1661 including lists of appointed commissioners. 1659 Pender's Census was compiled by Sir William Petty. and edited by Seamus Pender. He was also responsible for the Civil Survey. Data: names of people with title to land ( tituladoes ), the total numbers of English and Irish living in each townland, and the principal Irish names in each barony. Five counties not included are Cavan, Galway, Mayo, Tyrone and Wicklow. 1659 Kyle J. Betit is co-editor of "A Census of Ireland, Circa 1659, With Supplementary Material from the Poll Money Ordinances (1660-1661) edited by Séamus Pender". 1654-56 Down Survey - Civil Survey of 1654-56 Data: Ownership changes of 17th century land settlement Location: Quit Rent Office & Public Records Office Dublin 1623-45 Marriage License Bonds Index to Cork & Ross 1548-1856 Pre 1858 Wills of Diocesan Consistorial Court Wills for the less well off. Location: Under the local bishop. 1548-1857 Index to Diocesan Wills for Cork & Ross Location: Public records office Dublin A Guide to Copies of Irish Wills by Wallace Clare Location: Irish Libraries Journal for the Association of the Memorials of the Dead Location: Genealogical Office. Ireland Topographical Divisions It is a great help in Irish genealogical research if one is familiar with the topographical divisions if Ireland. Townland. A townland is an old Irish land unit that has been in existence since the early 1100s. A townland is now the smallest administrative land unit in Ireland. All larger administrative units are made up of multiples of them. There are 64,462 in Ireland of which 5,429 are in County Cork. Size is based on the quality of the land. The richer the land the smaller is the townland. Townland has the same meaning as "bally" or "bailie" in Irish and means "settlement" or "the place where you live". Their names were derived from some prominent man made or natural feature in the area. That is how communities in each area identified themselves. Generally their boundaries follow some physical features of the landscape. A major hurdle for anyone to overcome to finding information about their Irish ancestors is finding the townland where they lived. A good start is the web site www.seanruad.com. Civil Parish. A division of the state for census & valuation purposes. There are 2447. Eccleastical Parish before 1802. The unit of local church administration. Barony Division based on old Gaelic & family holdings. There are about 325. Poor Law Union. A division of the country wherein the taxpayers were financially responsible for the poor. They comprised multiples of townlands within an average of 10 miles. Provinces 4 Counties 32 Diocese. Three ecclesiastical synods in the 12th century established a diocesan structure of four provinces. They were Armagh, Cashel, Dublin, and Tuam, each headed by an Archbishop. Under them are now 26 bishops, each in charge of a diocese. The boundaries of the diocese have remained constant and are used by both the Roman Catholic and Anglican churches. In 1834, the four provinces were reduced to two: Armagh and Dublin. Genealogical Advice for the Novice TRACING YOUR IRISH ANCESTORS (3rd edition; 526 pages) by John Grenham ISBN 080631768X http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/ Getting Started in Genealogy and Family History http://www.genealogy.com/genealogy/4_pocket.html Finding Your Ancestors in Ireland http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson21.htm Rootsweb Guide to Tracing Irish Families http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/ Tracing Your Irish Ancestors http://www.ancestry.com/download/forms.htm Good Hunting David Campbell Heather Hess <[email protected]> wrote: Hi - My gt. gt. gt. grandfather was William Harley. He came to Nashwaak area, N.B. Canada sometime in the 1820's. His brother John Harley was a shipbuilder - he either came at the same time as William or soon after and settled in N.B as well. William sent a letter to his sister Mary Ann Harley - he had a wife for her in N.B. She came to Canada on a ship - the voyage took 5 weeks. When she got here William accompanied her to her new home in Newcastle, N.B. They walked through the woods for a day or two to get there. Mary Ann Harley married John Henry and had umpteen gt. grandchildren and a couple of gt. gt. grandchildren. Is anyone connected to the Harleys? William was a land surveyor and John was a ship builder. Apparently their dad (William Harley) was a school teacher. Thanks! Heather Tom Keyes wrote: Hello, When me gg grandfather's family left the great hungar-there were six dead children never to see adult hood. Sl�n, Tom Keyes Wisconsin US ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Linares" To: Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [COUNTYCORK] famine > Hello Kevin! > > I sure don't think the Irish were to blame for the > famine. Our ancestors in Ireland were farmers for > years. They had a lot of experience and surely knew > how to farm the land. I understand that County Mayo > was one of the hardest hit and many of them came here > to Cleveland, Ohio in the 1840's. It must have been > sad to leave their homes to come to a strange land, > some never to see their families in Ireland again. > Thank you for your post. > > Sharon > > --- kevin mccormack wrote: > >> >> I have read some strange posts in my time. >> >> Everyone has a different interpretation on history. >> Of course farmers exported their goods to England >> .... they wanted their price. I think what some >> people may find unforgivable was the lack of >> response from the authorities. As for being reliant >> on the potato..... it was the staple diet..... a >> grown man could of eaten between 6- 10 lbs of >> potatoes a day.If the crop failed how were they >> supposed to buy other foods? The famine didn't >> affect the East coast or the North as >> much.........don't you think this was related to the >> standard of the land? Was it coincidence it was the >> West and South West that was hardest hit? >> Are you saying it was Irish people's fault >> for the famine? Regards,Kevin. Co Cork, Ireland >> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> Find the home of your dreams with eircom net >> property >> Sign up for email alerts now >> http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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    02/21/2007 07:33:48
    1. [COUNTYCORK] Orphanages circa 1920
    2. cherie richards
    3. Hi, Can anyone point me in the right direction? I am seeking information on orphanages in Cork City and Cobh in 1920. I would also like to know if the Union Workhouse/Hospital may have functioned as an orphanage at that time. Any and all leads, comments, ideas appreciated. Cherie -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 1/11/2007 3:33 PM

    02/21/2007 06:01:15
    1. [COUNTYCORK] County Cork Examiner 13 July 1893 PT.2
    2. County Cork Examiner 13 July 1893 PT.2 pg.5 THE LIGHTNING FATALITY AT KNOCKS. "Sergeant Aiken, Ballineen, communicated to the Coroner Dr. Somerville, the partizulars of the calamity at Knocks, and received a reply that under the circumstances it was unnecessary to hold an inquest. The funerals of the men, Patrick Neill and Patrick Sullivan, killed on the occasion, took place yesterday; the former was interred at Desert and the latter at (Kilnagross ?). Both were largely attended. The two men injured are progressing favorably. During the thunderstorm that prevailed on Monday evening the chimney of the Castletown-Kinneigh schools was blown off and the gable and roof damaged. The storm was the fiercest and most terrific that ever occurred in the district, causing consternation and alarm, and will be remembered for a long time by the inhabitants." I would like to find out where Patrick Neill from Knocks is buried in Desert and who the other two men who got hurt were ? Thank you Aine

    02/21/2007 12:19:37
    1. [COUNTYCORK] Shocking Fatality in Co. Cork 12 July 1893
    2. Cork Examiner 12 July 1893 PT.1 pg.5 Shocking Fatality in Co. Cork. Two Men Killed By Lightning. Narrow Escapes. Clonakility, Tuesday "A shocking fatality occurred by lightning last evening at Knocks. five miles from Clonakility, whereby two men named Neill and Sullivan were instantantly killed, and three others severely injured. During a severe thunderstorm they retired for safety from a forge to Neill's house, and while there the deplorable incident occurred. Neill was a farmer's son and Sullivan a blacksmith. The awful calamity has created quite a shock in the district. Writing last evening our correspondent stated - From further particulars to hand regarding the lighting fatality at Knocks, it appears that during the severe thunderstorm that prevailed between six and seven o'clock on Monday evening, some parties were in Sullivan's forge and for safety retreated to his house, which is quiet adjacent. Thet were not long there when a tremendous crash came. Removing the greater portion of the slates off the roof the lightning burst down through the kitchen killing instantly Patrick Neill, aged 20, son of a repectable farmer, living a short distance away, and Patrick Sullivan , over 40, the owner of the forge and house. Two young men of the Neills escaped with slight injuries, and Sullivan's wife was unharmed. A dog and a hen were also killed instantaneously. The floor was torn and rooted, and the ground for a considerable distance, and the grass, furze, (?) scorched and burnt. The door posts were cut clean away, and consternation in the locality and cast a gloom over the place, and the like never occurred in the district. The bodies bear but very slight traces of the awfully sudden death they came by, and also the other men of the injuries they sustained. The Corner has been communicated with, and an inquest will be held. " Aine

    02/21/2007 12:01:49
    1. [COUNTYCORK] Geary in Gortnaskehy
    2. The Sullivans
    3. Hi Jeannine, I'd love to hear about your Geary line. I have an Owen Geary in Kildorrery. Originally I looked at the Gearys from Gortnaskehy. To date I have not been able to get before Owen Geary of Kildorrery , listed in Griffiths. Thanks, Eileen Sullivan Geary, Fleming, Brassil, Fraher

    02/21/2007 01:37:02